Dealing with a dry socket/Bitching about big pharm...

bamacheese

Well-Known Member
Yeh, I know what you are thinking. "You fuckin' dumbass". Lol.

So I can't really blame the fact that I got a dry socket on the fact that I smoked (or vaporized technically) two days after wisdom tooth surgery, considering I did literally everything on the list of post-operative instructions they say not to do, like rinsing within 72 hours, spitting within 72 hours, going to sleep with you head elevated and not laying on your cheeks. Well I ignored all of that shit, and of course...Boom! A dry socket.

The only real complaint I have about this dry socket is the way the nurse I talk to over the phone is acting about it.

After surgery for 5 days I got a total of 32 Lortab 7.5 mg/500 mg APAP to deal with post-operative pain. First of all, this is an irresponsible prescription. The doctor could have written a prescription for 5 mg Oxycodone/325 mg APAP and told me to take 3 a day, instead of 4 Lortabs, and it would have been much harder to abuse, and much more efficient to use for pain.

Putting that aside, I go in to have my dry socket treated. These fools know how much dry sockets hurt, they can't be dumb. They numbed it up and gave me 12 more 7.5 mg Lortab to deal with 3 days of pain. This was also an irresponsible, and well as an INADEQUATE prescription. After the 3 days, they said for the next 10-40 days, take 800 mg of Ibuprofen and 1000 mg of Acetaminophen every 3-4 hours. They literally recommended that I take 3.2 grams of Ibuprofen and over 5 grams of acetaminophen a day.

We aren't even talking milligrams anymore, we are talking GRAMS of over the counter pain medication, one with a well-known level of hepatoxicity.

I called the nurse today and asked her if there is anything they can do to lower the amount of Acetaminophen I am taking (Because I'm not a fucking retard, I know they can prescribe Tylenol 3's, which are very hard to abuse, but very effective for pain, and particularly my situation. 300 mg Acetaminophen and 30 mg of Codeine, 4 times a day, that would cut about 100 grams, or 100,000 mg of Acetaminophen I'm going to have to take in the next 2-4 weeks.

Doctor's recommendation: 150,000 mg of Acetaminophen, 120,000 mg of Ibuprofen for the next month


This bitch goes on to tell me "We'll be glad to give you more pain medicine, just come in so we can pack the site again and we'll get you all squared away" These fools want to give me more Lortabs. MORE LORTABS I DON'T NEED, OR WANT.

The U.S. drug industry is really fucked up, and I am convinced that these doctors/surgeons have CROOKED ass guidelines they have to follow to prescribe certain things, and it is complete bullshit.

These people, working for people with M.D.'s, told me to take 5 grams of Acetaminophen for the next 10-40 days until my dry socket heals. Oh unless I go to their office for a 4th time, so they can charge my insurance company full price, and happily give me inadequate and irresponsible narcotic prescriptions, which I'm sure get some sort of benefit from the manufacturers of the drugs they prescribe.

Sorry for the long background story guys...I just wanted to see if you had any recommendations for what I should do. Honestly, I don't want any more opiates. I half-way need them, but only to avoid taking ungodly amounts of Acetaminophen for the next few weeks. I suppose I will give Aleve a try tomorrow, and then Aspirin a few hours after that if Aleve doesn't work. I'm not trying to be a whiny little bitch, but damn...

Why the fuck would they over-prescribe medication post-operatively, and then when I have serious post-operative complications and actually need more effective pain medicine, they tell me to take OTC's at nearly toxic levels??

Oh, and just so all of you know, dry sockets aren't nearly as bad as they are cracked up to be. Don't get me wrong, they suck. It hurts far worse than the surgery itself. But it is completely local pain. It only hurts excruciatingly when liquids flow directly onto the bone with fresh nerves building. So it only hurts when you drink, irrigate the socket, and sometimes when you breathe, depending on how cold the air is.

The point of this post really is to say...........Wooohooooooooooooooo! I have Deep Purple to smoke now, so regardless of how shitty my mouth feels, I will be well medicated for the next week or 2.

Oh, and FUCK the pharmaceutical industry, I really mean that whole-heartily. I wish I lived in Mexico so I didn't have to play by the crooked guidelines of our medical system, I could go to a pharmacy and get what I need, and get on with my life. No middle-man money machine in the way.

Back to chronic and kombucha, and I guess a few aspirin just to help get through the painful irrigations I still have to do.

Thank you guys for any help or recommendations!! Even those of you who are gonna say "Suck it up you little bitch!". I'm trying to you cock suckers!!!
 

bamacheese

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And FUCK!!!! I just posted this in the wrong forum, this shit has nothing to do with growing marijuana. If a mod sees this and can move it, please do so! This whole different forum thing is just mind-boggling to me.
 

kryptoniteglo

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The thread will probably be moved, but in the meantime...

Pain management was the whole reason I started growing. I'm in my late '40s, smoked a little in high school, but that was in the 70s. Acapulco Gold, Columbian Gold -- the back-in-the-day stuff. I ended up hating the paranoia and couch-lock that started coming with street pot in the 80s/90s and so I never really smoked after about 1979. :)

Three years ago I had surgery to repair a torn tendon, and was given hydrocodone as the painkiller. It was okay at doing that, but some of the side effects were SO BAD that I swore I would never use it again. And since we're talking about the problem of Big Pharma, I'll be specific. The constipation that went along with the hydrocodone was so epic that it felt like I was shitting a giant rock and my ass was being ripped open. FOR THREE DAYS. Sorry for the graphic description, but there you have it.

So...now it's about a year ago, and I throw out my back. For more than two weeks I lie in bed in screaming pain. But I refused to take the hydrocodone that was still in my medicine cabinet. As I lay there I thought, damn, I wish I had some marijuana. Why shouldn't I be able to get pain moderation WITHOUT heinous side effects? Isn't the hippocratic oath "First do no harm?" If doctors can prescribe highly addictive medications with horrible side effects and still be considered keeping that oath, why can't they prescribe non-addictive medications with fewer side effects if they can help a patient?

And I don't buy the "well, marijuana hasn't been clinically tested and there are no studies that enable us to understand dosage and efficacy..." BULLSHIT! Different people have different reactions to prescription medications all the time! Doctors prescribe thinking the drug "should" work, but they don't know 100% that it will. They just hope it will. And they're constantly tweaking dosage levels.

So that's why I started growing. I want to be able to control pain when I need to AND avoid side effects I don't want. So, Bamacheese, I hear your pain -- literally!

And back to your question -- I agree it was irresponsible for the doctor's office to suggest such high levels of OTC drugs, and your only other choice shouldn't be something that's highly addictive. I know Space Dawg is supposed to be great for pain -- I'm growing it next for that reason. Maybe someone around you has some?
 

*BUDS

Well-Known Member
That 72 hour thing doesn't apply if you smoke, smokers take twice as long to heal.
 

hydrosoil78

Active Member
Moving to Mexico aint gonna help. there you get a hockey puck instead of deep purple. So, someone should put the pill factories and big shwag exporters out of business, looks like the suns coming up.
 

Orithil

Well-Known Member
I have a high pain threshold, except when it comes to dental pain. Nothing ever seems to work. I'd try to get either high as a kite or drunk as fuck and pass out, our bodies do their best healing when we're asleep anyway.
 

mellokitty

Moderatrix of Journals
hit up your nearest asian supermarket for these:

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take one, cut it in half, shove it right in the socket. warning: they fucking stink. like camphorated mothballs. but it works like magic.
 

rdo420

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You bitching and blaming them cause you cant control your intake of pills? WTF! The irresponsibility lies in your own self.
 

ANC

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You can get socket without smokeing. I lit up the moment I got in the car from the hospital.....
 

Flaming Pie

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So you're going to smoke some more...and extend your recovery time by more?

Still drinking too?

Only thing you should be doing is drinking water, eating soup and sleeping. Get a clue.
 

Flaming Pie

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Btw, takes up to two weeks for dry socket to heal. Meantime, you are vulnerable to infection.

I predict next week to be you complaining about that.
 
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