Did I just get some bunk/counterfeit Floralicious Plus off of Amazon? K ratio and address different

Greenhorn_Greenthumb · May 24, 2020

Old bottle has .02 K and a Sebastopol CA address. New Bottle showed up saying .5 K and a Santa Rosa CA address. Then I noticed that they both claim to be 1 pint or 16 ozs but one says 473ml and the other says 437ml, which seems like just the type of dumb type-o a counterfeiter would make.
i checked GH’s product line on their website and they’re showing a Floralicious Plus that matches my old bottle and has a .02 K ratio.

Has the product changed and they just haven’t updated their website, or did I just get a bunk bottle of FL+ off of Amazon?

hotrodharley · May 24, 2020

Their address is in Santa Rosa.

“General Hydroponics-USA
2877 Giffen Ave
Santa Rosa, CA 95407
Telephone: 1-800-37-HYDRO
(1-800-374-9376) or 1-707-824-9376”

hotrodharley · May 24, 2020

You’re aware they were bought by Scott’s? The owners of Monsanto. This is why the address is different.

Dr. Who · May 24, 2020

It's real, the formula changed.

Notice the laser printing on the bottom of the bottle - Real deal print code for that formula.....Date and batch codes are correct too.

Dr. Who · May 24, 2020

hotrodharley said:
You’re aware they were bought by Scott’s? The owners of Monsanto. This is why the address is different.

Scott's DOES NOT OWN MONSANTO!
Scott's does own G&H

The German Beyer Company own's Monsanto.

manfredo · May 24, 2020

Amazon is the worst place to buy stuff, although I do myself sometimes as it's so convenient. But rampant games get played there...I was buying Fox Farms stuff on there a few years back and the stuff was definitely diluted by about 50%...I wrote to the company and they told me there are zero authorized dealers on Amazon, at that time...Not sure now. The same thing happens with hps bulbs....used being sold as new, and counterfeit stuff too. Insane!!

Greenhorn_Greenthumb · May 24, 2020

Dr. Who said:
It's real, the formula changed.

Notice the laser printing on the bottom of the bottle - Real deal print code for that formula.....Date and batch codes are correct too.

I thought that code at the bottom could’ve been a clue, did you look it up? I tried to decipher a date out of it and couldn’t make heads or tails out of it.
are you 100% sure that it’s legit or just guessing?

Greenhorn_Greenthumb · May 24, 2020

manfredo said:
Amazon is the worst place to buy stuff, although I do myself sometimes as it's so convenient. But rampant games get played there...I was buying Fox Farms stuff on there a few years back and the stuff was definitely diluted by about 50%...I wrote to the company and they told me there are zero authorized dealers on Amazon, at that time...Not sure now. The same thing happens with hps bulbs....used being sold as new, and counterfeit stuff too. Insane!!

yeah that’s a ton of counterfeit shit on amazon, that’s why as soon as this looked even a little suspect red flags were being raised high

hotrodharley · May 24, 2020

Dr. Who said:
Scott's DOES NOT OWN MONSANTO!
Scott's does own G&H

The German Beyer Company own's Monsanto.

“The Scotts Miracle-Gro Company is an American multinational corporation headquartered in ... 1998 - Scotts enters into collaboration with the Monsanto Company; 1998 - Scotts completes an acquisition with ASEF ...”

Dr. Who · May 24, 2020

Greenhorn_Greenthumb said:
I thought that code at the bottom could’ve been a clue, did you look it up? I tried to decipher a date out of it and couldn’t make heads or tails out of it.
are you 100% sure that it’s legit or just guessing?

Txt a friend (cousin) who works in the plant.....
He gave me the translation of the code I gave off the bottle....

hotrodharley · May 24, 2020

“The Company's Scotts®, Miracle-Gro® and Ortho® brands are market-leading in their categories, as is the consumer Roundup® brand, which is marketed in the U.S. and certain other countries by Scotts and owned by Monsanto.Mar 20, 2019”

hotrodharley · May 24, 2020

I’m afraid Monsanto and Scott’s ARE together too. Have been for a long time.

budman111 · May 24, 2020

Greenhorn_Greenthumb said:
I thought that code at the bottom could’ve been a clue, did you look it up? I tried to decipher a date out of it and couldn’t make heads or tails out of it.
are you 100% sure that it’s legit or just guessing?

Vitality enhancer lol, whats the ingredients in that?

hotrodharley · May 24, 2020

“If only Bayer, the German pharmaceutical and agricultural seed and chemical giant, had bothered to ask around before acquiring the American-based Monsanto Company for $63 billion in cash last June.”

Bayer suffering buyer's remorse for Monsanto acquisition

If only Bayer, the German pharmaceutical and agricultural seed and chemical giant, had bothered to ask around before acquiring the American-based Monsanto Company for $63 billion in cash last June.

www.resilience.org

Dr. Who · May 24, 2020

hotrodharley said:
“The Scotts Miracle-Gro Company is an American multinational corporation headquartered in ... 1998 - Scotts enters into collaboration with the Monsanto Company; 1998 - Scotts completes an acquisition with ASEF ...”

In September 2016, Monsanto agreed to be acquired by Bayer for US$66 billion. In an effort to receive regulatory clearance for the deal, Bayer announced the sale of significant portions of its current agriculture businesses, including its seed and herbicide businesses, to BASF.

Monsanto and Scott's was "collaborating" on organic turf product research...

Dr. Who · May 24, 2020

hotrodharley said:
“If only Bayer, the German pharmaceutical and agricultural seed and chemical giant, had bothered to ask around before acquiring the American-based Monsanto Company for $63 billion in cash last June.”

Bayer suffering buyer's remorse for Monsanto acquisition

If only Bayer, the German pharmaceutical and agricultural seed and chemical giant, had bothered to ask around before acquiring the American-based Monsanto Company for $63 billion in cash last June.

www.resilience.org

Now you got it! Yeah I kinda like Beyer.... You might not have liked some of their products.
The whole ROUNDUP herbicide and cancer thing is hurting Beyer big time.
I had an uncle that was a chemical engineer at Monsanto.
He once said he thought the "whole round up thing is going to turn around and bite them" in time. That was about 20 years ago +...
I suspect Monsanto knew in the background the trouble was close....Why they sold out...

Greenhorn_Greenthumb · May 24, 2020

Dr. Who said:
Txt a friend (cousin) who works in the plant.....
He gave me the translation of the code I gave off the bottle....

awesome, thanks a mil

Greenhorn_Greenthumb · May 24, 2020

budman111 said:
Vitality enhancer lol, whats the ingredients in that?

xtsho · May 24, 2020

Scotts owns Hawthorne Gardening which is an umbrella corporation that owns Botanicare, General Hydroponics, Gavita, Sun Systems, and many other brands.

Brands - Hawthorne Gardening Co.

Hawthorne Gardening is growing, and so is our brand offering. Check back to see our expanding portfolio of gardening solutions.

www.hawthorne-gardening.com

But why does it even matter who owns what? People go on and on about these big corporations yet they still shop at Walmart to save a few pennies. And at least anything owned by Scotts is going to be upfront with their labeling unlike many of the smaller cannabis specific companies slipping PGR's and other stuff into their products without labeling them properly. Oregon has a huge list of those companies and their products that were issued a stop sale order because they have unlisted chemicals in their products.

People need to realize that the cannabis industry is as sleazy as it gets. With the amount of money being tossed around every scammer and schemer is jumping in. From seeds, to nutrients, to lighting. Don't kid yourself that these big corporations are any worse than many of the small timers out there grabbing as much cash as they can as fast as they can.

budman111 · May 24, 2020

Thats pretty much N hit, a Calmag should give you much the same N

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