DJ Short Blueberry

How many weeks to flower DJ Short Blueberry. I am in six weeks since I flipped the switch to 12/12. I see mostly clear trichomes and some cloudy trichomes. It is supposed to finish in 8 weeks but I doubt that. I do want to flush for a week or ten days.

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Mike Meier said:

How many weeks to flower DJ Short Blueberry. I am in six weeks since I flipped the switch to 12/12. I see mostly clear trichomes and some cloudy trichomes. It is supposed to finish in 8 weeks but I doubt that. I do want to flush for a week or ten days.

Please respond ....peeps...

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Is in a clone? If it's from seed it usually has to veg for a month to reach maturity, otherwise your flowering time is off. With that said I usually flower 2 weeks over what the breeder suggests. DJ Short Blue berry is a 9 week flower. I would go for 10.

Mike Meier said:

How many weeks to flower DJ Short Blueberry. I am in six weeks since I flipped the switch to 12/12. I see mostly clear trichomes and some cloudy trichomes. It is supposed to finish in 8 weeks but I doubt that. I do want to flush for a week or ten days.

Please respond ....peeps...

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Do not rush it, the biggest mistake new members make not waiting till the plants are finished. Keep watching the trichs! They will tell you when you are done.
If you are at 6 weeks and it says 8 weeks, wait and let the plant tell you when it's ready.

Step one! FLOWERING TIME BEGINS WHEN THE PLANT STARTS FORMING FLOWERS!!! NOT when you switch to 12/12!

Plants don't instantly begin to flower when you switch the lights. It takes time for the plants to "transition" from veg to flower. This is a known biological fact. It can take anywhere from 5-7 days up to over 3 weeks, all depending on the grow environment, and the genetics and maturity of the plants.

If you actually count from when the plant starts to form flowers, then usually the breeder times are much closer. Sometimes you still have to wait an extra couple weeks, but that is because all plants/grows are different even from the same genetics.

I stopped counting time years ago. The plant will be finished when they are finished, not when anyone says they will be.

@Thundercat
I spoke with a few seed breeders at a show awhile back and they all said they start counting at 12/12.
They also said most serious growers don't depend on suggested time, they use it as a guide, but with so many different grow systems it is all dependant on the individuals preference as to where they want the trichs to look like.
I am in agreement with you that sometimes it takes a certain amount of time beyond or prior to suggested dates.

gr865 said:

@Thundercat
I spoke with a few seed breeders at a show awhile back and they all said they start counting at 12/12.
They also said most serious growers don't depend on suggested time, they use it as a guide, but with so many different grow systems it is all dependant on the individuals preference as to where they want the trichs to look like.
I am in agreement with you that sometimes it takes a certain amount of time beyond or prior to suggested dates.

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You will notice my last sentence. I don't count time on plants. I try to help new growers understand how these plants grow, and what signs to watch for to be able to tell what the plants are doing.

I don't know what "breeders" you spoke to, but it makes zero sense biologically to count flower time from 12/12 switch. Some growers still do it, but some growers do lots of things. The important thing is learning how the plants grow, and that they are on their own time frames.

Plants outside aren't flowering until they start flowering, there is no magical light switch that someone flips. Well growing inside isn't any different in this case. The "transition" time is a well documented part of plant growth, sometimes it's referred to as the "preflower stage" (not to be confused with physical pre-flowers). But this period is labeled on nutrient schedules, and in plant growth studies.

just finished a dj shorts blueberry crossed with northern lights.said it was an 8 week strain.one pheno was fully finished at 10 weeks and a few days .the other pheno needed at least one to two more weeks

gr865 said:

@Thundercat
I spoke with a few seed breeders at a show awhile back and they all said they start counting at 12/12.
They also said most serious growers don't depend on suggested time, they use it as a guide, but with so many different grow systems it is all dependant on the individuals preference as to where they want the trichs to look like.
I am in agreement with you that sometimes it takes a certain amount of time beyond or prior to suggested dates.

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Thing is, breeders can't count from first flower due to having mature plants in an optimal environment, the duration of stretch ect is part of vigorous growth which is heavily effected by metabolism.

We home soil growers usually need to add a couple weeks, sometimes more with weak lighting, cold temps, atmospheric c02 ect..

SPLFreak808 said:

Thing is, breeders can't count from first flower due to having mature plants in an optimal environment, the duration of stretch ect is part of vigorous growth which is heavily effected by metabolism.

We home soil growers usually need to add a couple weeks, sometimes more with weak lighting, cold temps, atmospheric c02 ect..

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None of what you just said has anything to do with counting flower times really. Yes mature plants transition faster, but that transition is part of flowering. Mature plants and immature plants both take close to the same amount of time to actually flower......because immature plants wont start flowering until they become mature. The only difference is the length of the transition period. And that transition is not flowering, it is a preflower stage. This is biology, not hippie bro science.


Also counting weeks is reasonably pointless because of your second point. Flowering takes different amounts of time in different gardens.

I think counting is very rewarding for future runs of the same strain. You learn how long they take and when to adjust feeds, flush if you are prone to do so. You learn how much they stretch and therefore how long to veg. I think tracking the times for those reasons is very beneficial and should not be overlooked. That said, buying a pack of seeds and expecting the flowering days number to have any real meaning is simply wrong. You can get an idea if it's a long flowering or short flowering strain but you won't know how long it will take to finish your first run of that strain.

I thought this was already settled in the other thread when the people from Sensi seed and Mr Nice said it's from 12/12.

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None of what you just said has anything to do with counting flower times really. Yes mature plants transition faster, but that transition is part of flowering. Mature plants and immature plants both take close to the same amount of time to actually flower......because immature plants wont start flowering until they become mature. The only difference is the length of the transition period. And that transition is not flowering, it is a preflower stage. This is biology, not hippie bro science.


Also counting weeks is reasonably pointless because of your second point. Flowering takes different amounts of time in different gardens.

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Ok, I agree with plants moving at different speeds from garden to garden, this is what im trying to point out & also i said "sexually mature" meaning showing sex ,so new growers dont accidentally get the idea that they can count from 12/12 with 3 week old sprouts.

If the breeder himself hits ripening phenos in 56 days, why would he list it as 65+? That would mean his plants finish in 6.5 - 7 weeks if he counts from first flower, Is this the bro science your talking about?

I think we can both agree here that its better to learn what done looks like, still for those who exactly mirror the breeders environment, they can't count from first flower and expect the same results as the breeder when they hit 56-60 days in, put those phenos in soil at 40w/ft and they will take weeks longer.

Counting from first flower = will work for some environments but impossible to work for all.

Counting from flip = will work for all environments with some logical judgment and timing adjustment in regard to your environment.

If I were a breeder I before each strain release it would make sense during the test run I write on the pack the lowest flowering time possible to make the seeds more appealing rather than the longest time flowering

right? I wouldn't follow their flowering time recommendation but maybe use it loosely as a guideline

DaFreak said:

I thought this was already settled in the other thread when the people from Sensi seed and Mr Nice said it's from 12/12.

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I count from flip to 12/12. I don't grow out doors and it's a very consistent number with no observation required.

Renfro said:

I count from flip to 12/12. I don't grow out doors and it's a very consistent number with no observation required.

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I start at 12/12 but do not necessarily harvest per recommended weeks, sometime it works out to be that number of weeks, but like you it's all up to the trichs.

Thundercat said:

Step one! FLOWERING TIME BEGINS WHEN THE PLANT STARTS FORMING FLOWERS!!! NOT when you switch to 12/12!

Plants don't instantly begin to flower when you switch the lights. It takes time for the plants to "transition" from veg to flower. This is a known biological fact. It can take anywhere from 5-7 days up to over 3 weeks, all depending on the grow environment, and the genetics and maturity of the plants.

If you actually count from when the plant starts to form flowers, then usually the breeder times are much closer. Sometimes you still have to wait an extra couple weeks, but that is because all plants/grows are different even from the same genetics.

I stopped counting time years ago. The plant will be finished when they are finished, not when anyone says they will be.

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I agree with this 100% once the plant shows pre-flowers is the start of transition for approx. 2 weeks, it is only after that when I start to count the weeks till harvest

Nizza said:

If I were a breeder I before each strain release it would make sense during the test run I write on the pack the lowest flowering time possible to make the seeds more appealing rather than the longest time flowering

right? I wouldn't follow their flowering time recommendation but maybe use it loosely as a guideline

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I have found that most breeders estimated flowering times are short by 2 weeks, I have yet to grow a strain that has not taken at least 10 weeks to flower and ripen properly

some of that depends on which side of the genetics are pronounced in each pheno, for example if a plant is expressing more of it's Indica traits than it may flower for a week or so less that if it is expressing it's Sativa side

This girl is the closest thing I've had to my old blueberry from 2002. Grape and blueberry smells and taste, beautiful colors and nice heavy indica leaning flowers. Well indica leaning in the effect of stone. This is a cross of a blue dream leaning pheno from another cross of mine pollinated by a grapes 13 male. I call her grape sato and her colors and smell are Dj's blueberry, she is the great great grandma of sato.

which breeder? I just grew out a Seedsman Blueberry Fem and it was temper mental about too much light intesity and didn't like to be over fed. Yours in the pic there is beautiful, nice job on her. What kind of lights are you running on her? which nutrients?