do all cuttings of KUSH STRAINS have pm or what!!?

GreenSanta

GreenSanta

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A friend of mine is looking for kush clones and I dont grow any kush myself.

I find it hard to believe but another guy told me any cuttings of kush have pm, and you have to treat them. I feel like if I was to order kush and grow it myself I could supply him with clones but that would take too long. Plus I did hear from RIU that Kush are PM magnets.

Should I bother looking around to get his clones from a different source or all kush cuttings truly have pm and you have to treat them?
 
deflectohead

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I was once told you don't have real Og kush unless you have PM.... I from my experience, most OG/ChemDawg related strains are more susceptible to PM than others. I grew Chem4 for a year and a half with no PM issues. Then, I got a c99 clone that ended up having a real aggressive PM that took forever to eliminate. I flipped my ladies, and 6 weeks in the c99 showed a couple spots. I took her out but it was too late. My Chem 4 and Girl Scout Cookies started popping off while my Granddaddy Blueberry and SoCal Master Kush seemed to be immune... I chopped everything regardless and took a 6 wk break from growing so I could sanitize my house and garden.. Now I do preventative sprays with neem oil until flower clusters form and then spray them with Actinovate a week later
 
hyroot

hyroot

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depends on the kush strain.. Real master kush is non existent. It used to be an ibl hindu kush x hindu kush now its hindu kush x skunk1 so its really hindu skunk. for some reason every hindu skunk I've seen from seed or clone has major pm. My cbk has skunk 1 and landrace skunk and original ibl master kush in its lineage and it never gets pm... something they chose when they did the breeding I guess. Get a tga or dna or bodhi or green house or sensi seeds kush. Stay away from the dutch passion and dj short ones. Those get pm pretty bad and are they are newer hybrid fake kushes now.

but my nl x og 3 got pm bad when I did the seed of it. Since I moved and have vaulted ceilings now, they never get pm. So more airflow can prevent it. That's also why I don't like tents. Not enough airflow.




og is chem dawg x ( lemon thai x paki kush). its mostly sativa . so not much kush to it
 
deflectohead

deflectohead

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I've seen Socal Master Kush grow right next to a Dream Queen with a minor PM problem and never fruit any PM on the SoCal MK so that's one Kush strain that is very resistant contrary to the Kush/PM myth
 
deflectohead

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My outdoor buddies love the cut of Master Kush that floats around our small group of friends. Ill be growing it again in a few months. Ill post it too. I'm training a mother as we speak :)
 
GreenSanta

GreenSanta

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Thanks OGevil, I am in BC. I ll tell my buddy and he'll decide what he wants to do, I am hoping he goes for a 12/12 from seed grow with my F2s of Spacebomb crossed with Medicine but he was pretty adamant about kushes. I don't get the crave around Kushes!! Anyway my garden has been PM free for over 2 years now simply from having good airflow and staying away from kushes I guess!!
 
Herb Man

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I regularly grow Royal Queen Seeds OG Kush.

Never had a problem.

That said my Humidity stays at around 40 and I have very good air flow and exchange.
 
deflectohead

deflectohead

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I have only dealt with PM once in my flower room due to that c99. My friend that doesn't grow all organic (that I originally got the cut from) said he used eagle 20 and it still got PM !!! He originally got the cut from a dispensary and made it a mom. It showed PM spots a couple days after he got it which is why he busted out the eagle 20. He also used eagle 20 on his clones of c99 that he put outdoors a couple weeks before they went Into flower and it still showed up halfway through flower. Never seen anything like it before. I didnt have any pest/disease issues for over 3 yrs before that... Sometimes, even when you have the temps, light, humidity, and airflow dialed in. Shit goes south. There's always that x-factor/wildcard/whatever you wanna call it that you just can't control. Especially when you bring something foreign into your garden.. Live and learn I guess
 
OGEvilgenius

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deflectohead said:
I was once told you don't have real Og kush unless you have PM.... I from my experience, most OG/ChemDawg related strains are more susceptible to PM than others. I grew Chem4 for a year and a half with no PM issues. Then, I got a c99 clone that ended up having a real aggressive PM that took forever to eliminate. I flipped my ladies, and 6 weeks in the c99 showed a couple spots. I took her out but it was too late. My Chem 4 and Girl Scout Cookies started popping off while my Granddaddy Blueberry and SoCal Master Kush seemed to be immune... I chopped everything regardless and took a 6 wk break from growing so I could sanitize my house and garden.. Now I do preventative sprays with neem oil until flower clusters form and then spray them with Actinovate a week later
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C99 also has little to no PM resistance.
 
OGEvilgenius

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GreenSanta said:
Thanks OGevil, I am in BC. I ll tell my buddy and he'll decide what he wants to do, I am hoping he goes for a 12/12 from seed grow with my F2s of Spacebomb crossed with Medicine but he was pretty adamant about kushes. I don't get the crave around Kushes!! Anyway my garden has been PM free for over 2 years now simply from having good airflow and staying away from kushes I guess!!
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He's just giving the market what it wants. I will say though, my buddy gets more for his Super Lemon Haze and Killing Fields than he gets for his Kushes. All about finding the right markets. I don't like most of the Kushes around BC either. They're all sedative, depressing and unmotivating.
 
junker1

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Not to sure about the Kush strains but I am running 9 Kalis along with 9 M.O.B's and the kali has the pm and the other shows zero signs of it. Temp is 75 and humidity is 50% growing in pro mix using 1000 watt lights. so that being said, It is MY OPINION that it does show up in specific strains regardless of what your room temp, humidity or air flow is.
 
GreenSanta

GreenSanta

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junker1 said:
Not to sure about the Kush strains but I am running 9 Kalis along with 9 M.O.B's and the kali has the pm and the other shows zero signs of it. Temp is 75 and humidity is 50% growing in pro mix using 1000 watt lights. so that being said, It is MY OPINION that it does show up in specific strains regardless of what your room temp, humidity or air flow is.
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I find it hard to believe that under optimal condition a healthy plant would get this disease. By the way, 50% humidity is very high, I bet you your humidity at light off is around 60%!!
 
GreenSanta

GreenSanta

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junker1 said:
GreenSanta said:
I find it hard to believe that under optimal condition a healthy plant would get this disease. By the way, 50% humidity is very high, I bet you your humidity at light off is around 60%!![/QUOTE

I thought 50% was good?
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If could keep my grow room at 40% all the time it would be optimal in my opinion, my humidity does spike to 50-55 when lights are off at the moment coze i have one too many containers in the room but yeah I let it go now coze all my plants are only starting to bud while others are finishing and the buds are not too big on them, if you have big colas I would def. shoot for 40 I did get botritis in the past with 50% RH!
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robnarley1111

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Herb Man said:
I regularly grow Royal Queen Seeds OG Kush.

Never had a problem.

That said my Humidity stays at around 40 and I have very good air flow and exchange.
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I also (grew) Royal Queen OG Kush! I don't think it's anywhere close to real OG. I just chopped my plant
down on the 8th at nearly 8 weeks flowering due to herming. Ironically, the Royal Queen Seeds claims it's an 8 week flowering strain, so there wasn't much room for it to grow/swell/improve imo.

Never saw any PM though, but my humidity sits at 20%, sometimes less--and with good exhaust.

Any pics of your R.Q. OG ? Mine had ZERO calyx growth, no bud structure--just pistils everywhere, wasn't lanky at all as OGs are known for, and much too much leaf. Sample buds I smoked did not get me anywhere near the "high" of an OG. More of a mid-range strain that you need to smoke a good amount of to feel. I killed the clone and won't be growing it again.
 
Nizza

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i always thought humidity had less to do with PM than temperature change did; it seems like condensation issues were always the root of the PM for me

is there a gap between the base of the plant, and the foliage, allowing air to channel under the plants foliage and up through, then past the light and out?
if warm air is brought downward , i could see this hitting the cool leaves and condensing, possibly PM conditions, especially if there isn't a gap at the bottom. I think this would trap the moisture and cause bad things

just saying there may be more to it than just strain resistance, but the strain resisting the PM is important as well~
 
Corbat420

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currently all i grow is Kush and i have to say that yes they are HIGHLY susceptible to PM. i have White Kush, Purple Kush and Kandy Skunk (Kandy kush x Skunk#1) and even the Skunk hybrid is getting powdery mildew....

the best thing i have found is to remove some of the bottom leaves to increase air movement and lower the humidity in the room, the two things together should stop the infection... if they dont then you will need to get a sulfur burner for the grow room to truly stop the PM.
 
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