Do we need a consensus?

Hello Guys,

I was wondering when I was just starting, I started to look for sources that provided me with complete noob guidance and all of the information online quickly became overwhelming and confusing. Even after that early phase, the constant disagreeing in forums and contradicting blog posts did not become much better.

Was it just me or do you think this is a general problem about the cannabis growing online world? Maybe because the plant is not "well studied" it allows this to happen?

Forums are this way for every subject matter. It’s human nature and not anything cannabis related.

TreeFarmerCharlie said:

Forums are this way for every subject matter. It’s human nature and not anything cannabis related.

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Yeah but I also find "credible" blog posts with contradicting information, or am I just tripping?

growdonoloco said:

Yeah but I also find "credible" blog posts with contradicting information, or am I just tripping?

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Part of that problem is caused by young potheads who think they are breeders because they can cross pollinate plants. The amount of “experts” who have no actual formal training is mid blowing, but you find that in other subject matters too. I think it’s just really bad in the cannabis world.

growdonoloco said:

Hello Guys,

I was wondering when I was just starting, I started to look for sources that provided me with complete noob guidance and all of the information online quickly became overwhelming and confusing. Even after that early phase, the constant disagreeing in forums and contradicting blog posts did not become much better.

Was it just me or do you think this is a general problem about the cannabis growing online world? Maybe because the plant is not "well studied" it allows this to happen?

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It has nothing to do with how well studied the plant is. It has far more to do with morons claiming to be "master growers" throwing out bullshit as the next fad.

There are several growers here with decades of growing experience in a myriad of different environments, and one thing is consistent. We all are frustrated and angry over the Youtube (and other platforms) scam artists trying to make a buck or get another god damned 'Like'.

Start here ....... ( click )

Growweedeasy.com.

Many posers here too ..... remember its just a plant.
Keep your grows simple and avoid hydro shop advice , you tube and any forum members not hosting any grows ( easy way to weed out the fakers ).

One last thing ..... “ well known member “ status is not a badge of experience , it is merely a reflection of how much the member engages with this forum.

Opinions/ advice are just that ...everybody has their own . You will see which members to follow and how they try to help. Trolls and socks are plenty but there are some great growers here too. No matter the method you choose as a grow style , many are ready to help.

GL.

Budzbuddha said:

any forum members not hosting any grows ( easy way to weed out the fakers ).

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LOL! I brought this up to a forum member here who has never posted any of their own grows, but loves to tel everyone they are wrong or that their advice is “typical noob advice”, and they told me they don’t need to prove anything to a noob like me.

Budzbuddha said:

One last thing ..... “ well known member “ status is not a badge of experience , it is merely a reflection of how much the member engages with this forum.

Opinions/ advice are just that ...everybody has their own . You will see which members to follow and how they try to help. Trolls and socks are plenty but there are some great growers here too. No matter the method you choose as a grow style , many are ready to help.

GL.

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I’m clearly an expert based on my post count

TreeFarmerCharlie said:

LOL! I brought this up to a forum member here who has never posted any of their own grows, but loves to tel everyone they are wrong or that their advice is “typical noob advice”, and they told me they don’t need to prove anything to a noob like me.

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I probably have ran into him ... lol.
i never “ ignore “ anyone , too much fun asking pointed questions. You will find most non growers trolling the political section.

Budzbuddha said:

I probably have ran into him ... lol.
i never “ ignore “ anyone , too much fun asking pointed questions. You will find most non growers trolling the political section.

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I wish I could hide the political section. So much drama in there and it’s embarrassing to see “adults” act like children.

TreeFarmerCharlie said:

I wish I could hide the political section. So much drama in there and it’s embarrassing to see “adults” act like children.

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you should be able to, IIRC there is anti-adds software where you can specify an adress (or part of it) and will be cut away, not even loaded in. Goes by frame or inline frame, too. @ my old win7 PC I did that in times of a slow connection back then, just cut away all frames of forums that did display ads...

I think a lot of the misinformation out there can be attributed to the way in which people get their info now a days. These whippersnappers do not realize that there was a time when the only source of info on growing pot you could find was the anarchists cookbook. Ed Rosenthal books were the first real source of weed growing guidance I had seen up to that point.
High times created a market for weed industry advertising which made every reader who thought about growing their own believe they needed to spend hundreds on bottles of crap in order to grow decent bud. Soon after the internet came along some people got lazy and way too cheap to go buy a book on the subject for some reason. It may be easier to just google what you want to know but much of the free info on the internet is designed as click bait. Forums are a bunch of people’s opinions; you can learn a lot from them but it starts with a basic understanding of the subject. PH is one example that comes to mind; people may not really have a deep understand of it yet they dispense advice because they know how to use ph up/down.
This plant is very well studied but to access the best information all in one place you might have to actually go buy a book or two. Then you become the expert.

I also suggest growweedeasy.com. I did my first proper grow (600w MH/HPS, 4x4, Coco) and got 1g/w by using their tutorials.

Richard Drysift said:

actually go buy a book or two.

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exactly. the info on the net can be formulated by anyone, so its mostly not revised at all... books are better in that regard because a distributor is going to ask for credibility of the writer and then there are proof readings etc ...

Kassiopeija said:

exactly. the info on the net can be formulated by anyone, so its mostly not revised at all... books are better in that regard because a distributor is going to ask for credibility of the writer and then there are proof readings etc ...

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Grow books i have read are too advanced and conceptual. I dont need to know how to 'ploid my seeds and chart punnet squares. I want to know exactly what part of the plant is a "leaf" and stuff like that - so basic that books do not cover it. I mean literally, back in the mid '90's in my first indoor attempts, i spent months picking the middle leaf off each leafset thinking that i was tipping the plants!!! - all mislearned from grow books.
I have found the info on growweedeasy.com to be much more useful.

After a bit of thinking on this subject i stuck on a big issue - Big Color Glossy Photos. Any instruction manual thats for something thats not invisible is surely going to be based on lots of BCGP's. Typical pot growing book - guerilla printed on black and white newsprint with tiny scribbled "illustrations". Typical web page - loads of BCGP's clearly showing each step. The production/printing cost of a book filled with BCGP's is very high, but filling a web page with the same content is very very cheap. As a total beginner, if i want to know how to tip a plant then photos of what part to cut off are far more useful than text and "illustrations".

Mildewman said:

Grow books i have read are too advanced and conceptual. I dont need to know how to 'ploid my seeds and chart punnet squares. I want to know exactly what part of the plant is a "leaf" and stuff like that - so basic that books do not cover it. I mean literally, back in the late '90's in my first indoor attempts, i spent months picking the middle leaf off each leafset thinking that i was tipping the plants!!! - all mislearned from grow books.
I have found the info on growweedeasy.com to much more useful.

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cannabis is a plant like many other plants, you dont need to read Cannabis-specific books. If you are reading about plant manipulation then its already too far deep in.
there are simple household gardening books that explain the basics of what a leaf is etc
or you just drop a seed in a nettle field and itll grow. if you can grow a rose indoors you can do Cannabis as well

Basics :

Plant .... Root .... Bloom ....
then cut its fucking head off.

Budzbuddha said:

One last thing ..... “ well known member “ status is not a badge of experience , it is merely a reflection of how much the member engages with this forum.

Opinions/ advice are just that ...everybody has their own . You will see which members to follow and how they try to help. Trolls and socks are plenty but there are some great growers here too. No matter the method you choose as a grow style , many are ready to help.

GL.

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Budzbuddha said:

Basics :

Plant .... Root .... Bloom ....
then cut its fucking head off.

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Wise words from the Buddha.