Does a bad seed from a hermie have 100% chance of being hermie?

I planted a purple kush seed a little over a month ago but got the seed from some purple kush with lots of seeds. I was just wondering if it is for sure going to be a hermie and if it is a hermie do they produce less bud or do you have to do anything different.
 
I planted a purple kush seed a little over a month ago but got the seed from some purple kush with lots of seeds. I was just wondering if it is for sure going to be a hermie and if it is a hermie do they produce less bud or do you have to do anything different.
There is a thread started about this exact topic, on 9-10-09 by Polish Falcon420:leaf: in the advanced cultivation section. I'll try to post a link.
https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/239846-hermi-seeded-crop-seeds-any.html
Crackerjax:leaf: posted the following accurate and well researched breakdown regarding seeds from a hermied plant:
1/3 will be hermies
1/3 will be female
1/3 will be sterile
Born2killspam:leaf: says you should destroy the seeds and not use them(suggesting using them as a snack), as they could easily go hermi and cause any females to get seeded and create more inferior seeds.
I suggest reading the complete thread. I hope this helps. Best of luck to you.
 

trouble9039

Well-Known Member
I have given that A try A couple of times and have have A female and also got some trash material! I would do it just in another room away from everything else until you can clone it, and find out what it is!
 

NOWitall

Active Member
just cuz it came from seedy weed doesnt mean its hermie

if its a true hermie there should still be pollen sacs on it somewhere
 
Thanks that link really helped but one question by sterile does it mean it wont grow at all? I never even thought to look for pollen sacs on the weed but from what i can remember it was just standard purple kush but the reason i thought it was hermie is because my hookup told me it was. But who knows he could be misinformed.
 
Thanks that link really helped but one question by sterile does it mean it wont grow at all? I never even thought to look for pollen sacs on the weed but from what i can remember it was just standard purple kush but the reason i thought it was hermie is because my hookup told me it was. But who knows he could be misinformed.
I'm glad the info helped. Yes, sterile means exactly that, it will not grow, or will not thrive, is basically a weak specimen. and a waste of time and nutes. Crackerjax:leaf: seemed to know a great deal about hermi plants based on his reply in Polishfalcons:leaf: thread, perhaps you could contact him via message, show him a pic of the plant and he may help you.
I recently had an outdoor Purple Crunch female in bud go hermi.:cuss: Half the plant sprouted little white balls, similar looking to tiny bells of ireland flowers.
I was told there could be practically invisible pollen pods as well. Either way, you should destroy the plant immediately, unless you want your other females to go to seed, and lose the majority of their THC to seed production instead of your pain reduction. I wouldn't take any chances. I couldn't bear to see any of my Paralyser get pollenated.:bigjoint:
 
Well i only have one plant so if its hermie il just grow it but thanks il remember this shit when i start my full scale operation
 
Well i only have one plant so if its hermie il just grow it but thanks il remember this shit when i start my full scale operation
This is just a tiny bit of advice. I would never put all of my eggs in one basket. Growing just one plant could be a heart breaker, especially if it turns into a hermi, because you'd be budless. The main reason to grow is buds:mrgreen:.
Why not try to acquire a few female clones? They are a safe bet. You are pretty much guarantedd to get some buds as long as you give them the basic necessities. Seeds are risky, even feminized ones. I personally know of friends getting only 1-2 females out of each set of 5 fem seeds purchased from a well known seed supplier. Whenever I do use a seed instead of a clone, I test it outside first, to make sure I'm not taking the the slightest chance of introducing pollen to my grow lab. Hopefully, you'll have good luck with your current grow.:peace:
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Thanks that link really helped but one question by sterile does it mean it wont grow at all? I never even thought to look for pollen sacs on the weed but from what i can remember it was just standard purple kush but the reason i thought it was hermie is because my hookup told me it was. But who knows he could be misinformed.
Yes, there are two terms which ppl sometimes interchange erroneously. Sterile and infertile.

Sterile means nothing will sprout from that particular seed.

Infertile means the seed has the potential to sprout but will never complete it's cycle and reach a mature stage. Meaning it will never reproduce....hence infertile.... but a plant may grow from the seed.

Hope this helps.... :peace:
 
Yes, there are two terms which ppl sometimes interchange erroneously. Sterile and infertile.

Sterile means nothing will sprout from that particular seed.

Infertile means the seed has the potential to sprout but will never complete it's cycle and reach a mature stage. Meaning it will never reproduce....hence infertile.... but a plant may grow from the seed.

Hope this helps.... :peace:
Howdy CrackerJax, This site rules! I'm learning new things every day! Thanks for clarifying the difference between sterile and infertile. The correct information is always the best.:mrgreen: Infertile seeds are like the bane of mankind, they could appear to be normal, yet in reality totally waste time, nutrients, and peace of mind. I can safely deduce the best thing to do is destroy any and all seeds that are the result of a hermie. All of my current grow is from clones, and only 1 lady from seed. Hopefully, fingers crossed tightly, I won't have the hassle of dealing with any hermies in my grow lab.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
I have been working on a relatively new grass plant in the USA, and am in the process of convincing the govt. that this plant is the answer to a lot of their problems. This plant has an identical cousin which is a ferocious grower too but won't stand still.... it runs everywhere and its seed is very viable.... big problem, unlike mine which clumps only... no runners. My grass is "infertile", and it is a tough slog to get the govt. to distinguish between the two.
If anyone has ever worked "with" the govt. they usually turn conservative.... convinced that the govt. is truly filled with slow witted ppl. and must surely be pissing tax money down the drains.

So my grass was studied in hawaii at length. This grass seeds "infrequently" but they collected 10k seed and tried to germ them out in a tight laboratory greenhouse using every technique imaginable. 10000 seeds later.... 3 sprouted. None made it past a week.

That's infertile!!! :lol:

The govt. still ponders and hems and haws about it... it's quite ridiculous to me. Luckily I don't need the money, but I possess a very good solution for them, and they are incredibly dim witted and slooooooow... they make turtles look like rabbits.
 

Green Cross

Well-Known Member
I planted a purple kush seed a little over a month ago but got the seed from some purple kush with lots of seeds. I was just wondering if it is for sure going to be a hermie and if it is a hermie do they produce less bud or do you have to do anything different.
It has more chance of being female than a hermie
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Hermies are induced..... a strong grow is the best defense against hermies.

Wanna get hermies?.....

nuke ur plant with nutes
let disease take hold
keep them overwatered
keep them underwatered.

etc...etc...

hermie is a survival technique...... when you see a hermie..... that plant just pulled its rip cord.
 

fish601

Active Member
There is a thread started about this exact topic, on 9-10-09 by Polish Falcon420:leaf: in the advanced cultivation section. I'll try to post a link.
https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/239846-hermi-seeded-crop-seeds-any.html
Crackerjax:leaf: posted the following accurate and well researched breakdown regarding seeds from a hermied plant:
1/3 will be hermies
1/3 will be female
1/3 will be sterile
Born2killspam:leaf: says you should destroy the seeds and not use them(suggesting using them as a snack), as they could easily go hermi and cause any females to get seeded and create more inferior seeds.
I suggest reading the complete thread. I hope this helps. Best of luck to you.

maybe but....


ok its late i am tired but i did not see

(in the first cross, that works out to 1/3 male. 1/3 female, and 1/3 sterile. There can be variances, but usually it will break down this way)
on that page but i could be wrong
look for yourself
http://www.physorg.com/news146420175.html
Two from one: new research maps out evolution of genders from hermaphroditic ancestors

November 20th, 2008
Research from the University of Pittsburgh published in the Nov. 20 edition of Heredity could finally provide evidence of the first stages of the evolution of separate sexes, a theory that holds that males and females developed from hermaphroditic ancestors. These early stages are not completely understood because the majority of animal species developed into the arguably less titillating separate-sex state too long ago for scientists to observe the transition.
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However, Tia-Lynn Ashman, a plant evolutionary ecologist in the Department of Biological Sciences in Pitt's School of Arts and Sciences, documented early separate-sex evolution in a wild strawberry species still transitioning from hermaphroditism. These findings also apply to animals (via the unified theory) and provide the first evidence in support of the theory that the establishment of separate sexes stemmed from a genetic mutation in hermaphroditic genes that led to male and female sex chromosomes. With the ability to breed but spared the inbred defects of hermaphrodites, the separate sexes flourished.
"This is an important test of the theory of the early stages of sex chromosome evolution and part of the process of understanding the way we are today," Ashman said. She added that the study also shows that plants can lend insight into animal and human evolution. "We have the opportunity to observe the evolution of sex chromosomes in plants because that development is more recent. We wouldn't see this in animals because the sex chromosomes developed so long ago. Instead, we can study a species that is in that early stage now and apply it to animals based on the unified theory that animal and plant biology often overlaps."
Ashman reported in Science in 2004 that animals and flowering plants employ similar reproductive strategies to increase reproductive success and genetic diversity. These methods include large numbers of sperm cells in males, mate competition and attraction through fighting or natural ornamentation, aversion to inbreeding, and the male inclination to sire as many offspring as possible.
For the current study, Ashman and Pitt postdoctoral research associate Rachel Spigler worked with a wild strawberry species in which the evolution of separate sexes is not complete, so hermaphrodites exist among male and female plants. Sex chromosomes in these plants have two loci—or positions of genes on a chromosome—one that controls sterility and fertility in males and the other in females. Offspring that inherit both fertility versions are hemaphrodites capable of self-breeding. Plants that possess one fertility and one sterility version become either male or female. Those with both sterility versions are completely sterile, cannot reproduce, and, thus, die out.
The single-sex plants breed not only with one another but also with hermaphroditic plants and pass on the mutation, which can result in single-sex offspring. (Sterile plants also can result, but plants with genes that favor the production of fertile offspring will be more successful.) When inbreeding depression in hermaphrodites is also considered, Ashman said, a gradual decline in the number of hermaphroditic plants is to be expected. Consequently, fewer chromosomes with both fertility versions of the loci will be passed on and the frequency of single-sex individuals will increase.
 
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