Dutch Passion Master Kush grow

the flower time according to different web sites is all over the place. i bought these from attitude and their literature says 8-14 weeks. that narrows it down quite a NOT!. other places i have seen say 8-9 weeks. i am at 6 weeks from switching to 12/12 but it took over a week to start to see flowers. i am planning on harvesting based on the pistils receding into the calyxes(i suspect it is really the calyxes selling but that is neither here nor there). and i found that the really early bud buzz is really different than the ripened bud buzz but i enjoy both. my first(and most recent) grow was a mixture of 4 strains that starred a greenhouse thai. i think i flowered that bitch for 17 weeks but the buzz from her is still pretty energetic. the other strains are pretty couch locky though that is what i expected and wanted. i like a variety.

my wattage now is 216 with the t5's plus 52 watts between 2 2700 kelvin cfls. my overall yield per watt with this set up(though i did have 2 more 13 watt cfls @6500 kelvin for that but i also had 4 plants) was pretty meager at around a half gram but i also fucked up 2 plants by poisoning them with damprid that go mixed into the runoff that soaked back into 2 of my plants roots. i am debating my next grow as i have some issues with where i am located, laws and the availability of a dispensary in my area(though i have no desire to use a dispensary but am not sure i can get a hardship waiver). i am starting a new thai grow though as i planted a couple of seeds just last night.

in reading your response on the watering deal, sounds like you would not stop feeding all together and maybe give some light feedings up to the last week so yield does not take a hit or am i reading between the lines wrongly? i think i am getting a bit over 30 percent run off with my waterings now but they appear happy so i will probably maintain that.

i noticed some purple showing up on some fan leaves last night which i am kind of stoked about. i have read that is an indication of cold but i think i would like that bag appeal...

i saw a huge thread on led's in place of cfls/t5s' some where here but i am having a hard time finding it now. it looks like leds come in pretty much any spectrum you could dream of and this guy had a lot of interesting info with charts showing the optimum absorption for cannabis. it looked like a doctoral thesis. if i find it again, i will post a link for it. i have looked at your dog grow with cfls. looking good.

Thanks man! Id just keep doin whatever youre doin cause its working just fine. No ph/nute problems to see.

As for watering, i keep hitting them pretty hard until the last 3-5 days and then give em a last watering of Snow Storm Ultra 3 days before dark.

Now for the flowering date its probably between 8-9 ish weeks. Any/most kushes are done around then. Youre lucky to be in a medical state but its gotta be tough having it for so long and then the govt switches up the rules on ya.

budbro-i bought some of that snow storm ultra. i am going to ease into it over the next 2 weeks. probably not a good test as i think the buds are supposed to be bulking up at this point anyway but i have seen your end results and hope i can get half as nice a finished product.

That shit does work!!! Start at about 2.5ml per gallon and make sure you dont feed with nutes a day or 2 before just to insure you dont burn em cause its some strong stuff but boy does it work. One of the few things that was a night and day difference. Everything else i change causes minimal results. Little extra weight, less ph problems, etc. Little things like that. But with SSU it went from frosty bud that was a pretty dense and flavorful to straight killer coated in resin and dense as rocks and sticky as can be.

I basically flush with SSU even though i dont flush haha. I stop feedin for the last 7-5 days and give them water when needed with small amounts of SSU in it. One of the chemicals in it helps the absorption of nutes so it helps pull any left over nutes lingering in the soil up into the plant. Ive heard gravity and the other products work well too but i havent had a need to change anything since SSU was added.

that is exactly the dose i started out with. it is what they recommend starting vegging plants on. i went with a really dilute batch of water/molasses(almost no molasses). i am happy with them so far so i figured easy does it at the start. i appreciate the pointers. as a bonus today i noticed a really nice purple calyx covering. i am pretty psyched that the purple i have been spotting here and there is maybe going to be full on. though taste and potentcy are important, the vanity of having some nice porn worthy buds is a nice extra. on a side note, my first grow, i had very little frostieness until i bought a bulb with some uv in it. the trichs exploded(not literally obviously) once i put that in. i have read that trichs are a kind of uv protection for the plants. it could have been a coincidence but i had very few trichs until i put the same uva bulb in this go-round. keep in mind i am growing with t5's and some cfl's so i am sure if i had some hids i would not need the uv component as much but it seems to work. even if it is coincidental, don't care. the plants are coming along nicely. wish i could brag to people in the open instead of as oldfogey8. but then again, that would be stupid...
thanks for the help budbro.

Yeah t5s and other fluorescents tend to be lacking in UV.

Thats was one of the original reasons people did the 3 days of dark at the end of flowering. The theory was that since the THC and other cannabinoids were there to protect the plantf and they got broken down through the day by UV and at night they got replenished with THC. Because of this if you take the lights off the timer at the end of flowering and let it sit in the dark for a few days it would just get stuck in that replenish mode and give you an abundance of thc.

I do it because it makes the plant use up starches in the buds like they do every night except for an extended period of time. This kinds helps with the dry/cure. I can smoke my buds in less than a week after i chop them down so about 10 days after i start darkness.

You can water with molasses with snowstorm because that takes some time to be eaten by the bacteria in your medium. Some strains just have that purple to em. Ive wanted to buy some UV t5s for my grow a while ago but figured i didnt wanna mess with the extra wires and potentially burning the plants with them. I dont need them anymore because the LEDs i run have UV within the spectrum. Cant wait til they get tossed into flower but its probably a good month away.

a fast forward button for the grow room or grow tent would be a million dollar idea...

Ive wished for it too many times haha.

gave the girls another does of snow storm ultra @7.5 ml per gallon. i ph'd the water to 6.4 with some wood ash to balance out he molasses i put in(about a tbsp in the 3 gallon bucket of aged tap water i have). maybe it is the power of suggestion but they look a bunch more frosty since i dosed them a couple days ago. i am also seeing some amber trichs and the calyxes are definitely swelling. due to circumstances beyond my control i may need to harvest on christmas even if they need a couple more days. it is that or waiting maybe too long and chopping new years day. im going to snap a pic or two later today or tomorrow.

Yeah i always think that too. It happened with my little auto cheese im growin in my mini cab. Bought a new bottle, gave some to the auto cheese, and the next day i swear all the trichs doubled. And i check this thing multiple times a day. haha

and chopping early is never a big problem. choppin late isnt either. Just a little difference in the high.

bud - i check my plants waaaaay to often. i am a bit obsessed.

i kind of prefer the lighter buzz associated with the clear and cloudy trichs as opposed to the stone of the cloudy and amber trichs. the amber seems like they are better for pain relief but i don't have any problems sleeping and when i smoke some of that high test amber coated bud, i am napping like a cat in no time.

i saw some buds in looking at them this afternoon that had me a little concerned. at first glance i thought it looked like they were getting a white mold which i have read mold is common on master kush. upon inspection with my eye loupe it turns out it is frosty trichs!

i do think i have too many bud sites for the size of my tent or the pots though. they look like they will be smaller than the hand and beer can sized buds i see on some posts here. my guess is there is only so much mass to be had from my setup and it is being divided up amongst the 15-20 buds i have on each plant. you live and you learn...

Yeah sometimes you can overlove a plant. Kill it with kindness hahaha. Youre more than good though i wouldnt be worried.

My buds have never hit the 2 liter bottle or beer can size. Maybe on the plant ive had a few beer cans but i usually grow lst/topped and to get those fat colas you need to lollipop/mainline to get that big fat bud size but its has alot to do with genetics.

i have killed a cactus. you have to be some kind of special to kill a plant that lives in a desert. my weapon of choice? water. lol. ignored the thing for about 5 years and thought one day, 'that is a pretty good looking cactus. i am going to start taking care of it'. the end came quickly...

Thats funny because i actually just threw a little cactus we had on a table under my 150w light with my auto cheese. It started gettin dull colored from the lack of light so i figured it wouldnt hurt. Hopefully i dont make the same mistake you did.

Things are looking great in your garden fogey. I would say you are doing great and it's hard to compare with other grows on here. Considering your lighting and setup I would say that you are definitely maximizing your space nicely.

I've never grown the master kush but from past experience with kush they are notoriously low yielders. They are usually among the most dense buds though and yours look to be very dense and well formed.

thanks stones. that means a lot to me coming from someone who grows high times centerfold worthy buds. i am learning from all the rollitup masters here.

i have controlled myself for the most part but i have snuck a light squeeze or two in on some of the buds and they feel nicely dense compared with the stacked kush and thai plants i grew last time.

hit 7 weeks of 12/12 lighting today. been out of town for a few days so i got to see some more noticible changes in the girls. the trichs are pretty much all cloudy. couldn't find any ambers but i just worked 12 hours and then drove another 2 and half so i am a little bleary eyed. gave them some molasses water and snow storm ultra. some of the fan leaves are starting to yellow. the calyxes are swelling and the pistils are about half brown. i will post some pics a bit later today.

ok. here are some pictures at 7 weeks. upon further inspection i am seeing some of the leaf tips getting a bit of a burnt look. maybe the snow storm ultra is a bit too strong since i have not given then any nutes in close to 2 weeks. would anyone say i should chop now or should i be patient and sit tight?

i also cracked a couple of thai beans but since i was out of town, one rotted under the saran wrap i had over the pot. i just planted another bean to replace that one as i'd like to have 2 plants going. the pic of the saran wrapped terra cotta pots are the thai plant started 12/11/13(if i was in europe it would be 13/12/11 i think)

Id sit tight. The snow storm probably did upset your plant a little. Does it to most of them if you dont start it real slow in late veg so then by flower its used to its weekly or bi weekly dose of snow storm. Id say youre good til week 8-9. Those things should start swellin one last time in the coming week.