Dwc jumping like crazy

Mr. Newb

Mr. Newb

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I'm new and on my first grow. I'm using dwc 8 bucket no reservoir. Led lights, advanced nutrients grow micro bloom. Seedlings were started in Rockwool which was soaked in a PH solution to fix how high it was. After I moved them to the buckets I'm using hydroton to hold the Rockwool in place. I'm using tap water which is about 7 PH right out the tap. I adjust it then add nutes 1tsp per gallon micro grow bloom. Then check and adjust again if need be. I get PH to about 5.8 then a few hours later it can be as high as 7. I'm changing nutes every 7 days and my plants are starting to suffer end of leaves dried up with with rust like spots on them. I also use cal mag every other top off. As far as strain this is just some shit I pulled from a bag didn't want to waste good seeds on first try that way if they die I wouldn't feel bad. This morning PH was 7 for some others were a little higher dropped it to 5.8 some buckets only went up a little and we're fine others skyrocketed back to high 6-7.i need some help so I can stop this madness. Thanks I appreciate it.
 
mr.schroederific

mr.schroederific

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Ummm ok. What do you need help with? I think you should add a reservoir. The madness starts with doing everything 8 times. Each plant will consume nutrients at different rates, maybe that's why your seeing one bucket differ from the next. What made you go DWC the first time?
 
Mr. Newb

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mr.schroederific said:
Ummm ok. What do you need help with? I think you should add a reservoir. The madness starts with doing everything 8 times. Each plant will consume nutrients at different rates, maybe that's why your seeing one bucket differ from the next. What made you go DWC the first time?
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Honestly didn't seem like a bad idea at the time and changing it out really isn't a pain only takes about an hour or so. And I am short on money right about now. I have it arranged so I can take the net pot out and check everything daily pretty easily. I read that it's my plants eating the nutes driving it up but if these plants are eating nutes there shitting them out just as fast the right side of my buckets is struggling the left side is fine but they started to feel change a bit so I started checking adjusting PH 2 daily. I thought PH perfect would help with this but I'm not seeing it. I thought maybe my nutes to water ratio was off
 
justugh

justugh

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PHing is fun ...................u have not seen anything yet man wait untill u are flowering or mid way it gets nuts

u need a rez .................for 8 plants the amount of work coming up will be a full time job the rez will cut that back to 30 mins /3 hours


your water.......... is it city or well
if it is city water u need to clean/purge it ...........clean out your bath tub bleach it wash it down ..............fill the tub with hot water and leave the door open and leave let the water cool down to room temp then jug it up (jugs do not use milk jugs they will turn the water foul .....u can not clean it not even with onestep/bleach/boilingwater) move it buckets for use.................what u did was purge out all the chemicals that the city adds to the water to keep pipes clean the hot water releases it .....when it turns cool it should be done (really it done in like 20/30 mins but safer to let cool for 2 3 hours)

that will help the roots and hold the ph better

next your feed ............u need organics u will have to buy something to add to the water vegan plant booster ............something that supplies them to the water and keeps them happy these guys are your first control on PH they will take good care of the water until about 3/4 week of veggie then u will notice it dropping (every day u add water u check the PH and adjust back to 5.8/5.9)

when u get to flowering that is the fun part 8 plants go ahead and order a gallon of PH up and PH down (if your plants go monster feeding the ph will drop u will re doing it 5/6 times aday so skip the small ones and get a gallon or at least half gallon )

this is the reason we are telling u to get a res ...............with 8 buckets doing it just 2 times a day is 16 the one tank u can PH and it adjust all the buckets at once

when u get the money u can order a automatic PH system .............then u just add the senor to the res every time it goes down the system will add PH up and get it back to golden zone .................only downside if u want to have both PH up and PH down hooked in u need 2 units
 
Mr. Newb

Mr. Newb

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I figured I wouldn't have all 8 be females and then it would eventually be easier maybe 4-5 plants tops. So I'm stuck now trying to make this work
 
Mr. Newb

Mr. Newb

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If I were to switch to soil what is the ratio for advanced nutrients grow micro bloom in soil feeding schedule wise
 
Mr. Newb

Mr. Newb

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justugh said:
PHing is fun ...................u have not seen anything yet man wait untill u are flowering or mid way it gets nuts

u need a rez .................for 8 plants the amount of work coming up will be a full time job the rez will cut that back to 30 mins /3 hours


your water.......... is it city or well
if it is city water u need to clean/purge it ...........clean out your bath tub bleach it wash it down ..............fill the tub with hot water and leave the door open and leave let the water cool down to room temp then jug it up (jugs do not use milk jugs they will turn the water foul .....u can not clean it not even with onestep/bleach/boilingwater) move it buckets for use.................what u did was purge out all the chemicals that the city adds to the water to keep pipes clean the hot water releases it .....when it turns cool it should be done (really it done in like 20/30 mins but safer to let cool for 2 3 hours)

that will help the roots and hold the ph better

next your feed ............u need organics u will have to buy something to add to the water vegan plant booster ............something that supplies them to the water and keeps them happy these guys are your first control on PH they will take good care of the water until about 3/4 week of veggie then u will notice it dropping (every day u add water u check the PH and adjust back to 5.8/5.9)

when u get to flowering that is the fun part 8 plants go ahead and order a gallon of PH up and PH down (if your plants go monster feeding the ph will drop u will re doing it 5/6 times aday so skip the small ones and get a gallon or at least half gallon )

this is the reason we are telling u to get a res ...............with 8 buckets doing it just 2 times a day is 16 the one tank u can PH and it adjust all the buckets at once

when u get the money u can order a automatic PH system .............then u just add the senor to the res every time it goes down the system will add PH up and get it back to golden zone .................only downside if u want to have both PH up and PH down hooked in u need 2 units
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Mr. Newb

Mr. Newb

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If I were to switch to soil what is the ratio for advanced nutrients grow micro bloom in soil feeding schedule wise
 
Mr. Newb

Mr. Newb

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justugh said:
PHing is fun ...................u have not seen anything yet man wait untill u are flowering or mid way it gets nuts

u need a rez .................for 8 plants the amount of work coming up will be a full time job the rez will cut that back to 30 mins /3 hours


your water.......... is it city or well
if it is city water u need to clean/purge it ...........clean out your bath tub bleach it wash it down ..............fill the tub with hot water and leave the door open and leave let the water cool down to room temp then jug it up (jugs do not use milk jugs they will turn the water foul .....u can not clean it not even with onestep/bleach/boilingwater) move it buckets for use.................what u did was purge out all the chemicals that the city adds to the water to keep pipes clean the hot water releases it .....when it turns cool it should be done (really it done in like 20/30 mins but safer to let cool for 2 3 hours)

that will help the roots and hold the ph better

next your feed ............u need organics u will have to buy something to add to the water vegan plant booster ............something that supplies them to the water and keeps them happy these guys are your first control on PH they will take good care of the water until about 3/4 week of veggie then u will notice it dropping (every day u add water u check the PH and adjust back to 5.8/5.9)

when u get to flowering that is the fun part 8 plants go ahead and order a gallon of PH up and PH down (if your plants go monster feeding the ph will drop u will re doing it 5/6 times aday so skip the small ones and get a gallon or at least half gallon )

this is the reason we are telling u to get a res ...............with 8 buckets doing it just 2 times a day is 16 the one tank u can PH and it adjust all the buckets at once

when u get the money u can order a automatic PH system .............then u just add the senor to the res every time it goes down the system will add PH up and get it back to golden zone .................only downside if u want to have both PH up and PH down hooked in u need 2 units
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If I were to switch to soil what is the ratio for advanced nutrients grow micro bloom in soil feeding schedule wise
 
justugh

justugh

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to change to soil ..........it depends on the soil u use

each one is different so i can not give u a set plan .................the best choice i can offer a new person is this
http://www.ideal420soil.com/

that soil u do not need to feed ...........it is a just water soil

the other 2 most used is
Fox farms ocean forest ..........Roots Organic


the feeding of those are depending on the plants ...............i am one of those look at the plant ppl and it tells me what to give it plans do not really work too well for me
 
Mr. Newb

Mr. Newb

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Not to mention you suggested the most expensive bag of soil I ever saw. What I'm asking if I switch to soil a regular bag of porting soil and water with advanced nutrients what ratio would I use. Mind you I'm a disabled veteran and my money is limited
 
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grorite

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Mr. Newb said:
Not to mention you suggested the most expensive bag of soil I ever saw. What I'm asking if I switch to soil a regular bag of porting soil and water with advanced nutrients what ratio would I use. Mind you I'm a disabled veteran and my money is limited
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buy some average soil you dont need anything fancy like was suggested keep them fed and your golden start nutes half strength and work your way up
 
Mr. Newb

Mr. Newb

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I'm just going to buy some bags of soil and switch if it is going to turn into a huge mess I would rather switch to soil and get a rez later
 
Mr. Newb

Mr. Newb

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Well I switched to soil as said. Now I got a question about that. I'm growing in a tent 6x6x6 now my temp is 80-85 normally and Rh is 50-55 on its own unless I bump it up. Now I have only been in soil for less than a week. My leaves are still browning at the tips but not all just a few from the under foliage then the tops slowly begin but it's not aggressive. I keep up on calmag. I'm using led lights 3 of them 180w 300w 450w for 4 plants and I keep them about 8-10 inches away. Is this normal should I wait for it to adjust itself?
 
gardengardian7

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First and foremost, I had the same peception of a DWC. I lusted greatly in my mind for about a few days. Seeing this one DWC on YouTube. It was a 21 day old plant. It was so BIG and it had about 70 or so branches and was about maybe about 2.5ft. Gorgeous beauty. Roots were amazing and spooky at the same time. Looked like hundreds of skinny worms. I said Oh, Im doing
that! But the Spirit was like you
dont behave that way. How are
you going to just automatically advance to DWC without
experiencing soil grow first?
So, I humbled myself and had
inquiring questions of wisdom
such as what would be the best
soil? I read and understood
that organic soil was the best
to use. Than i remembered on
the hood to hood dvd Cash Out
Kease the Hydro Mans
Beautiful DWC room was
Major. Though it was DWC, he
was like " Its all organic, its all
organic as you can see". So i looked up what would be the best soil and waa lead to a forum where a lady was making her own formula but mentioned that Roots oganic had everything you need in it for a successful grow. Thus roots organic give it a good flavor. And also FoxFarm oul was good as well. And that lead me to Amazon.
 
gardengardian7

gardengardian7

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Amazon has every soil mix. Also all the different ingredients needed to put together your own formula. Me personally living in an apartment didnt have time OR MONEY not only to buy each individual ingredient but to wait a month until it was DONE COOKING TOO... Man i was eyeballing the heck out of the already made soil with joy that i didnt have to do it myself..Bol. But eventually I will graduate to putting my own formula together for sure. But for seed starter i used "Espoma Seed Starter" which seemed like a good soil to use out all the others financial and brand wise. $11.49 under $12. And i got a bag of Roots Organic at $26.99 lets say, but under $27. And Im working with a blessed $900.00 a month between two people so im budgeting and exercising a form of patience altogether with consitancy. And getting your equipment peice by peice and step by step ads the necessary patience and maturity it requires to become a possessor of the "gift" of growing and managing the "gift" of the Healing Plant. Which most DWC growers Do Not have because of their lust for money, greed, and pleasure. Soil being patient and not ignorant to how we need to approach the Healing Plant matters to life because its nit just somerhing you grow just to smoke and sell. I Respect NO MAN for that. But to understand the purpose of the Healing Plant and what it does and how the Government saw it to be of value and profit for their own lust, wealth, and power. Decieved us and stole from us what the ALMIGHTY GOD put here for all of us to behold and experience. And the Healing Plant heals every aspect of life mentally, spiritually, and physically. So this is the right and proper perception to have as a man or woman. And you dont have to feel guilty about it. But be discreet and handle the Healing Plant wisely and with love and respect. Because the Healing Plant will do for you what no man can do and thats heal your life and provide finance. This is the perception of the GardenGardian7. Be good to the Healing Plant and it will be good to you. Vice versa! :peace:
 

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Mr. Newb said:
Well I switched to soil as said. Now I got a question about that. I'm growing in a tent 6x6x6 now my temp is 80-85 normally and Rh is 50-55 on its own unless I bump it up. Now I have only been in soil for less than a week. My leaves are still browning at the tips but not all just a few from the under foliage then the tops slowly begin but it's not aggressive. I keep up on calmag. I'm using led lights 3 of them 180w 300w 450w for 4 plants and I keep them about 8-10 inches away. Is this normal should I wait for it to adjust itself?
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How old are your plants i didnt catch that? And what kind of soil are you using? Also i just read where with led you need to keep the lights i believe it said 24 inches above your plants. And with soil it should already be ph and nutrient efficiant where all you have to do is water when needed every 3 days or when your pots are light in weight. And the other vital thing is pure consistency with lighting time and pitch blackness. And good management helps plants grow healthy.:peace:
 
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