Eletric Meter Tweak

I want to beable to run 6k watts without suspicion . In order to do that i need to slow down my meter.

Can anyone tell me how to do this? i heard something about magnets.

Bad idea man, messing with the power is what will get you in trouble.

you are gonna get busted if u fuck with your electric meter........the meter readers and the electric companies arent retarded.

As stated, leave the meter alone and pay your bills. I have very little faith that you can cheat the never generation of electric meters. I have no faith you can do it with magnets as most meters are digital now. Even if magnets "could" effect the meter, how do you know it might not speed it up?

Playing with the meter is in the top 5 reasons people get caught.

The very worst thing that could happen is you have an electrical fire that could kill everyone in your house. Growing is not that important to me.

There are ways but it is very stupid and (magnets wont work) 6k of power is not THAT suspicious ! but stealing the power is VERY suspicious! 6k sounds just like an all electric house to me... no big deal. its a big jump if u have lived there for awhile though...???

LEAVE THE METER!!!!!
!!!PAY THE BILL!!!!!
NONE THE WISER!!!!!!!!



PEACE,BLESSINGS,PROSPERITY

..........yes, and everyone is saying this because of the risks it would create(stealing power) and they way out weigh the risks if you just pay your bill......if your so worried and really want that much light, work up to it a light a month or every two months...... They dont care how much you use. And if your worried about the 5 0 checking out your power records, I am pretty sure it takes a warrant or at least probable cause---in which case your busted anyway you look at it....... And believe me again, if your stealing that much power they will notice it gone and be looking to narrow down the location.......... I hope your putting this much thought into everything else as well........

Great luck to you!!

gman

Yea just work it up at bit, 1 or 2 lights amonth... dont mess with the meter.

It probably depends on the size of your property or house. I would think 6k 24 hours a day in a average house might be pushing the limits.

29216 said:

It probably depends on the size of your property or house. I would think 6k 24 hours a day in a average house might be pushing the limits.

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.......so it sure is a good thing you only run them 12hrs!haha! JK!
But good point because they do kind of have a sq.ft., amount of bedrooms type average they can give you----------- But the point is that the power company doesn't care what you use(here in the US at least)....if you have a big spike all of a sudden they might be looking out for you thinking someone ripping you off, or you have something leaking power, or whatever..... I wish I knew what I know now when I started this venture years ago.........
I'd be more worried that you have something like a fire, or even the 5-0 end up at your place while in pursuit of someone/something, or if a kid came up missing in the neighborhood and they start sniffing around(literally w/dogs), or getting broke into, or...........power is like way down my list. Pay the bill-try to keep it consistant------shit, buy a broken spa and welder and make them look in use if it helps......

gman

NewHiddenGrower said:

I want to beable to run 6k watts without suspicion . In order to do that i need to slow down my meter.

Can anyone tell me how to do this? i heard something about magnets.

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Not a good idea to mess with the meter, like so many others have said, the Power Co is not dumb as dumb as we would hope. I'd build up ur usage gradually. Sure it might take a few months, but going from say $80 a month to $280, will raise some eyebrows in billing. growinman made a good point on buying a broken hottub or something else that would give you a reason for the sudden jump in power usage. as long as it's there, you'd have a reason for the power usage.

"shit, buy a broken spa and welder and make them look in use if it helps......"
Yes this is definatly the way to go! Thats the best way around it! make um think u use it....

wyteboi said:

"shit, buy a broken spa and welder and make them look in use if it helps......"
Yes this is definatly the way to go! Thats the best way around it! make um think u use it....

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thats a great idea, might borrow that myself.

Sorry for being the Devils advocate here, but if you only have your grow bypassing the meter with 6k the electric company will not know if it is done right. I have seen 20k to 40 k done that way, and no problems yet. It takes an experienced electrician to do it, and do it well. I personally have not ever done it. Ironically I guess i am just to honest.

well in my guess 6k watts is definitely not for personal use, so you know what i say pay your damn bill. but seriously its not worth the risk of being caught up or putting others in danger. also make sure your circuit breakers are gunna be able to handle all this power.

I know someone who has been using magnets for 5 years now (YES THEY DO WORK) and hasnt been caught, i personally wouldnt do that bad karma but the electric companies are one of the biggest reasons growers get busted and for anyone who says magnets dont work i guarantee their wrong they are not ordinary magnets either if u get them to close while holding 1 in each hand your not only going to break all your fingers but you will have to call 2 of your best buds with wood clamps to pull them apart they definitely arent anything to mess with as far as i know they only work on old meters those meters

Magnets.....was going to say about the new meters and no moving parts-but figured everybody had them and knew. Bad karma?? Whatever....... I call it unnecessary risk as I believe in 'my-neck-of-the-woods' they can get real close to where they're 'losing' power....

If you dont have it yet, get ready: They replaced our meters well over a year ago.....and then again about 6 months ago. They're all digital and completely wireless. They can sit in thier office and tell me how much power Iam using right now! And they have graphs.....well, thier computers do. You think this is scary? Yeah, they see that ever day at say 6pm I have a spike of 600+- watts. And every 5 minutes from 6 to 6:20 600wts is added(5x600=3000wts) plus my ac, fans, pumps, dehumidifier..... So I know that on a regular night at 12:01am I am probably burning well over 4000wts......and at times I switch out some of the 600's for 1000's......whatever it is, my point is that they see similar spike every day(can you imagine what the graph looks like?!) and unless you have two 12/12 rooms and are real good with math and electric, you can avoid the 'spike' by setting up a flip-flop and spread your power out over 24hrs at a more 'even' rate. Your still using the same amount of power.
I'm a reasonably(haha) paranoid careful person, if such a thing exist.... I try to cover everything with/through SSH Tunnel via proxy with all of my online shyte. The last thing I am worried about is the power company. What's going to flag them to my account? It's all automated...... My bill is paid. There is no power coming out here to where I am at that is 'missing.' You do realize that they can meter power at points and do math, I am assuming. The software they use 'detects' leaks(missing power), amoung many other things I am sure. They are a business and for the most part are run like one. And they dont give a rat's ass how much power you use---at least in this part of the US.......... Dont rip them off, dont be completely stupid....... Leo is much more likely to violate the flir rules because who knows for sure what they're looking at? That even causes me more concern than the power consumption: you think they can just walk in the power company and say 'we want to look at all the records' for (whatever area/house, neighborhood)? And if they come in there and say with specifics which house they want the records for--well fuck me, that house was already busted before they went to the power company: now they're just building onto the evidence they must already have?

Nobody has an excuse to not pay thier power bill. If your burning x amount of power and cant take care of the bills, well that explains the magnets. Paranoia is NO EXCUSE! If your burning 15,000+ watts then your in it for the $$ and should be set-up commercial/industrial somewhere with proper cover. Not growing schwag with glass in it like all the rest of these veitnamese fly-by-night, house destroying bastards giving all of us a bad rap.

Oh, something else....? They had a HUGE indoor bust in the PNW I think it was last week. HUGE!! It was a highly sophisticated op too. I think the news said they had over 40(that's 4-0!!!) mature plants and as many that were "immature"<----(un-rooted cuttings??). The $$ estimates?......yeah, you know. My point is this, something better for you guys worrying about a few thousands watts to worry about: the narcs/task force, whatever--got thier lead starting from a hydro shop surviellance op-->the news reported that they(5-0) 'regularly' watch who comes and goes from the hydro shops. I can only imagine the records they have(illegal they are) and swap with the other task forces and agencies, just for info(intelligence).

oooooops... I think I hear a helo outside-----hey, think one of those magnets could fuck it up should it get too close?? JK

Hope you all have a great weekend!! I am not trying to be an ass towards anyone!!......just giving my 10 cents when I was only asked for two.

gman

Go ahead so we can read about you down the road.

there are ways to beat the meters ( my brother is one of the guys that cuts your shit off and knos alot of the tricks lol)

people do some crazy things to steal power.... most of the time its because they cant pay the bills.... in your case if you cant pay to use the lights you dont need them your either gonna get your power shut off and ruin a grow or youll steal power and get it shut off and reported ..... they have new locks to prevent getting in to the boxes and to show tampering if you remove the digital meters it red flags the meter ... so basically if you wanna get caught and spend time in a concrete room with a guy named tiny fuck with your meter ..... if you want to grow unnoticed .... dont fuck with it and keep ur payments up to date

It's not illegal to use 6kw of energy.

It's not illegal to have an indoor hydroponic garden with lights, heaters, AC, pumps, etc.

Even if they can prove you are using a lot of energy on a hydroponic garden they still cannot do ANYTHING unless they can prove you are growing marijuana. You could be growing cucumbers and selling them in Chinatown for all they know.

The only way they can even put you under suspicion is if either someone narks you out, or they can smell it, or something extremely obvious pointing to the fact you are growing an illegal substance.

Don’t worry about using energy or even buying hydroponic supplies. Just pay the bill and all will be good.

Worry about the physical matter (and people) directly related to the marijuana itself. People, smell, stealing power, and carelessness are you main concerns.

…all of this is based off personal experience, nothing more. Good Luck.