End of EU?I

beardo

beardo

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ralf said:
It looks as though the Euro is about to disintegrate to nothing, but do we have any EU experts on the forum, if we do, could you tell me, if the Europe Union as whole will also disintegrate?

n King has urged British banks today to prepare themselves for the collapse of the eurozone.
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Not yet
And a Euro is worth more than a dollar today- so don't believe all the hype and the Fed is going to help keep the Euro afloat with dollars
I think Europe was just taken over without a war and the system will keep speeding along at least for awhile all this talk is just a distraction-
 
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ralf

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beardo said:
Not yet
And a Euro is worth more than a dollar today- so don't believe all the hype and the Fed is going to help keep the Euro afloat with dollars
I think Europe was just taken over without a war and the system will keep speeding along at least for awhile all this talk is just a distraction-
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Thanks for that beardo, its appreciated.
 
mame

mame

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The central banks have signaled they will not allow a collapse to happen; Bernanke & co are great lol, they didn't even really do anything significant but market expectations changed on their moves regardless...
 
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brimck325

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beardo, i believe u are correct in your statements, i just dont understand how the USA can back em if we cant back our own $. we print $, we dont have gold to back, n we all no china already owns us....our goverment at its finest....peace
 
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NoDrama

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The unelected governors of central banks everywhere will now borrow from the fed at super low rates (.58%) in exchange for currency swaps. They will then use these dollars to purchase short term US Treasuries that pay in excess of .58% and will pocket the profits from the difference.

Basically the Fed will print money and give it to foreign banks who will then turn around and lend it back to the US Government and ultimately the US Citizen at interest. To simplify even further, the banks are going to lend our own money back to us at profit.

I hope you all bought gold and silver, these swaps are nothing more than back door money printing (Quantitative easing) and the real reason they are doing it is so that a major bank in Europe does not fail causing another Lehman bros collapse like 2008. More inflation to come, good for gold.

the EU is mathematically impossible to save, it will fail.
 
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Hemlock

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NoDrama said:
The unelected governors of central banks everywhere will now borrow from the fed at super low rates (.58%) in exchange for currency swaps. They will then use these dollars to purchase short term US Treasuries that pay in excess of .58% and will pocket the profits from the difference.

Basically the Fed will print money and give it to foreign banks who will then turn around and lend it back to the US Government and ultimately the US Citizen at interest. To simplify even further, the banks are going to lend our own money back to us at profit.

I hope you all bought gold and silver, these swaps are nothing more than back door money printing (Quantitative easing) and the real reason they are doing it is so that a major bank in Europe does not fail causing another Lehman bros collapse like 2008. More inflation to come, good for gold.

the EU is mathematically impossible to save, it will fail.
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Fuck that was well put. Damn I wish I knew how to put words together like that! Nice ND!
 
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ralf

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mame said:
The central banks have signaled they will not allow a collapse to happen; Bernanke & co are great lol, they didn't even really do anything significant but market expectations changed on their moves regardless...
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Yes i have noticed, it often appears the Bernanke is a conductor and the worlds inverters are the orchestra, he waves his arms about, touching nothing and the investors play their tune.
 
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ralf

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brimck325 said:
beardo, i believe u are correct in your statements, i just dont understand how the USA can back em if we cant back our own $. we print $, we dont have gold to back, n we all no china already owns us....our goverment at its finest....peace
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But does China own your ass? Or is this just a plan, to draw them in to capitalism and then bankrupts them, as your guys did to Russia? I hope not, i firmly believe in the a balance of power, a balance of power, kept America from annihilating each other, it is a proven peace keeper.

A militarily powerful China is a good thing and a financially powerful China assures that hey have the means to keep that balance of power militarily .

I love the American people, they really are the salt of the earth, but the American government, is a different kettle of fish. As with our British government they are pure poison.
 
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ralf

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RyanTheRhino said:
Do you think that once the EU breaks up they will fight each other again
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Why would they?

I can see no reason why they would, although i am no expert of course, but even if wars did break out, would it really that bad?

When you look back, the zionists have been involved in every turmoil going on around the world.

The French revolution, the Russian revolution, the Commi revolution, the American civil war to name but a few, their fingerprints are all over them.

When wars stop altogether, the zionists will have the very last free country under their control, and they wont stop until that is the case,

If European countries go to war with each other, it would be sad indeed, but....those wars would tell us, that the world is still relatively free and that makes it harder for the zionists to gain total control

European wars. would slow down or even better, stop totally the insidious advance of the zionists. I believe the saying that "Power corrupts and Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely" is unquestionably true.

If you want to see the truth of that saying in action, just take a look at the way the zionists treat the Palestinians, look how they are burning people alive, including children.

The zionists have Absolute Control of Palestine, look at the evil perpetrated there on the Palestinians, this is the way, they will treat the people of every country they take control of.

Make no mistake, it is the zionist who are perusing the final Solution, starting with Palestine.

The zionists have proven that they believe in the pre-emptive strike It was Jewish zionists who first coined that phrase, while they were in Dubya's government, Perle being just one of them.

This is their speciality, they use that same tactic in every area of their insidious evil lives. They know that they are racist of course, so they use the verbal pre-emptive strike and call you a racist, before you get the chance to point out to the world that they are actually the real racists

Or they will pre-empt the claim of them being anti Goy or Anti Gentile, by hitting you first with the old Emotional Black mail trick of "Your anti-Semitic, The verbal pre-emptive striker is just the same in principle as the military pre-emptive style. And now we all now know that trick of theirs.

Just out of interest, did you guys know, that dubya's grand pappy, collaborated with the Germans during the first world war?

Do you find that interesting, or surprising, or what other feeling do you have on that point, i would be interested in your opinions.
 
RyanTheRhino

RyanTheRhino

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ralf said:
Why would they?

I can see no reason why they would, although i am no expert of course, but even if wars did break out, would it really that bad?

When you look back, the zionists have been involved in every turmoil going on around the world.

The French revolution, the Russian revolution, the Commi revolution, the American civil war to name but a few, their fingerprints are all over them.

When wars stop altogether, the zionists will have the very last free country under their control, and they wont stop until that is the case,

If European countries go to war with each other, it would be sad indeed, but....those wars would tell us, that the world is still relatively free and that makes it harder for the zionists to gain total control

European wars. would slow down or even better, stop totally the insidious advance of the zionists. I believe the saying that "Power corrupts and Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely" is unquestionably true.

If you want to see the truth of that saying in action, just take a look at the way the zionists treat the Palestinians, look how they are burning people alive, including children.

The zionists have Absolute Control of Palestine, look at the evil perpetrated there on the Palestinians, this is the way, they will treat the people of every country they take control of.

Make no mistake, it is the zionist who are perusing the final Solution, starting with Palestine.

The zionists have proven that they believe in the pre-emptive strike It was Jewish zionists who first coined that phrase, while they were in Dubya's government, Perle being just one of them.

This is their speciality, they use that same tactic in every area of their insidious evil lives. They know that they are racist of course, so they use the verbal pre-emptive strike and call you a racist, before you get the chance to point out to the world that they are actually the real racists

Or they will pre-empt the claim of them being anti Goy or Anti Gentile, by hitting you first with the old Emotional Black mail trick of "Your anti-Semitic, The verbal pre-emptive striker is just the same in principle as the military pre-emptive style. And now we all now know that trick of theirs.

Just out of interest, did you guys know, that dubya's grand pappy, collaborated with the Germans during the first world war?

Do you find that interesting, or surprising, or what other feeling do you have on that point, i would be interested in your opinions.
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well you left out ww1 and ww2 plus all the fighting that dates back to the holy roman empire. there has only been peace in Europe since the UN was created after ww2 . This then lead to the EU
 
FilthyFizzle

FilthyFizzle

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NoDrama said:
The unelected governors of central banks everywhere will now borrow from the fed at super low rates (.58%) in exchange for currency swaps. They will then use these dollars to purchase short term US Treasuries that pay in excess of .58% and will pocket the profits from the difference.

Basically the Fed will print money and give it to foreign banks who will then turn around and lend it back to the US Government and ultimately the US Citizen at interest. To simplify even further, the banks are going to lend our own money back to us at profit.

I hope you all bought gold and silver, these swaps are nothing more than back door money printing (Quantitative easing) and the real reason they are doing it is so that a major bank in Europe does not fail causing another Lehman bros collapse like 2008. More inflation to come, good for gold.

the EU is mathematically impossible to save, it will fail.
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Nicely said!
 
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Hemlock

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RyanTheRhino said:
Do you think that once the EU breaks up they will fight each other again
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Yes. When they all go back to their own currency, and it so devalued because of what the eurocrats are doing to them. They will riot in the streets, now this is just an opinion. however, I'm not the only person that feel this way....google Nigel Farage.
 
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Coals

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Im going to make a prediction.

Everyone knows the EU needs to dissolve. The best thing for the PEOPLE is for at least Greece, Italy, Spain and maybe even France to break free of the EU.

I think they will do anything to keep it together and the steps taken by the FED so far is just the tip of the iceberg. I think the printing has only just begun. If the EU collapses the World Currency dream collapses as well. No one will welcome a World Banking Government if the EU dies. Why would they? How would you convince people to accept it if the EU collapses?

No they are going to use this crisis as an excuse to implement world currency and more integrated banking cooperation. Problem, Reaction, Solution. The Vatican has already recommended a world banking overseeing body. I will be very surprised if the EU collapses but I do hope I am wrong.
 
Harrekin

Harrekin

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Even if the Euro collapses there's no reason for the EU to dissolve.

The EU and the Eurozone are not the same term...the Eurozone are the countries within the EU that use the Euro, whereas the EU is more of a free trade/movement of labour zone.

The Euro might collapse, but the EU has virtually zero chance of splitting up.
 
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