Ergot spores

Is there any place that sells them, or can you buy/grow ray and put it in a place with really high humidity and see if it grows?

not gonna happen

buy lsd like everyone does

fucking around with ergot fungus is very very dangerous and can kill you.. and to grow cultures large enough to use for lsd you have to have to grow it in a sterile room in a pea tree dish.. much more equipment and work than a reg person would have

But it would be worth it to learn yet another trade. Try growing the fungus an another house for safety. Or can you synthesis it from lsa?

i encourage you to prove me wrong. please, keep me posted on your progress.

aside from any dangers and pitfalls you might come across...

1. you'll never find ergot spores
2. you'll never isolate ergot fungi
3. you'll never grow any substantial amoutn of fungal matter
4. you'll never be able to extract ergot alkaloids
5. you'll never have the chemicals to process the alkaloids to LSD
6. you'll never have the equipment to process the alkaloids
7. you'll never have the conditions to process the alkaloids

this is all assuming you actually know what you're doing with chemistry, actual chemistry, not the anarchists cookbook or whatever method you would follow.

as for LSA, #3-#7 apply, substituting ergot for morning glory or whatever seeds you're thinking.

i'll give you a hint, google "ergotamine tartrate". move to a third world country, buy as much as you want and then start dabbling in chemical synthesis.

really, i fully support your efforts. you WILL fail, but you'll probably learn something.

The knowledge would be good but I don't think it would be worth it imo. I am not sure about the lsa, but I am pretty sure you cant.

nashbar said:

i encourage you to prove me wrong. please, keep me posted on your progress.

aside from any dangers and pitfalls you might come across...

1. you'll never find ergot spores
2. you'll never isolate ergot fungi
3. you'll never grow any substantial amoutn of fungal matter
4. you'll never be able to extract ergot alkaloids
5. you'll never have the chemicals to process the alkaloids to LSD
6. you'll never have the equipment to process the alkaloids
7. you'll never have the conditions to process the alkaloids

this is all assuming you actually know what you're doing with chemistry, actual chemistry, not the anarchists cookbook or whatever method you would follow.

as for LSA, #3-#7 apply, substituting ergot for morning glory or whatever seeds you're thinking.

i'll give you a hint, google "ergotamine tartrate". move to a third world country, buy as much as you want and then start dabbling in chemical synthesis.

really, i fully support your efforts. you WILL fail, but you'll probably learn something.

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Sometimes the truth hurts...

lol, many lives have been lost to ergot. i believe it feeds on grains and was the reason for many deaths back in the day, i mean way back.
try using Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds. you can get lsa fairly easily as for lsd, unless you are a top notch chemist you'll probably end up fucking up horribly. the chemicals involved are very dangerous, you could end up with some sort of poisoning, catch something on fire, blow something up, or producing something that will kill or sicken any person who ingests it. not to mention the cost of supplies, that shit can be outrageously expensive.

kdox88 said:

lol, many lives have been lost to ergot. i believe it feeds on grains and was the reason for many deaths back in the day, i mean way back.
try using Hawaiian baby woodrose seeds. you can get lsa fairly easily as for lsd, unless you are a top notch chemist you'll probably end up fucking up horribly. the chemicals involved are very dangerous, you could end up with some sort of poisoning, catch something on fire, blow something up, or producing something that will kill or sicken any person who ingests it. not to mention the cost of supplies, that shit can be outrageously expensive.

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I've already done that and sold the lsa extract for 70 bucks for like 15 hit's lift, I've already got a half ass lab set up until I move then I can set up a real one when I get into my house, lately I've been doing dmt lsa mescaline opium morphine codeine and ephedrine extraction, so I do know little bit about chemistry and organic chemistry!

also I remember when I was in the UK that one of the lords wife ate some bread with ergot in it and tripped, riding her horse through the town naked, so It can't be that bad to grow some.

ps I've never read the anarchist cook book, I found listening to your parents/family can be very helpful.

I'm just going to keep doing research til i fill ready to embark on this adventure

Token said:

I've already done that and sold the lsa extract for 70 bucks for like 15 hit's lift, I've already got a half ass lab set up until I move then I can set up a real one when I get into my house, lately I've been doing dmt lsa mescaline opium morphine codeine and ephedrine extraction, so I do know little bit about chemistry and organic chemistry!

also I remember when I was in the UK that one of the lords wife ate some bread with ergot in it and tripped, riding her horse through the town naked, so It can't be that bad to grow some.

ps I've never read the anarchist cook book, I found listening to your parents/family can be very helpful.

I'm just going to keep doing research til i fill ready to embark on this adventure

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producing lsd is alot more difficult than extractions.
this might help you.
Erowid Online Books : "TIHKAL" - #26 LSD-25
or try this site
LSD-25 Synthesis
u might want to take some chemistry classes.... alot of chemistry classes
it really takes an expert chemist.
think about it. if it were easy everyone would do it themselves. since the active dose is so small and if a bunch of people made it, it would be everywhere. that is why their are only a few chemists who cook up some lsd. it is difficult.

I think I would need a few more chemicals and a organic chemistry class and I got this.

I think you could pull it off and someone saying not so is not being very cool (just thinking he is by thinking it is impossible).

A good bit of the worship for me with drugs is no longer worshiping or holding as an idol those that can provide for me what I can not, so even pharmi companies are something I'd rather not rely on.

Sure, you could isolate and keep pure Ergot for growth; any fungus can be contained and controlled in an environment.

Having the ergot tartrate pre made cuts down your work a great deal, since growing the fungus and seperating the alkaloid that you want (I do think there are several as nature travels with pals).

Ergot isn't that dangerous if you aren't putting the solution that you are growing it in into squirt guns and playing I'm on fire tripping till someone becomes toxic, or eating the stuff.

Not that it's good lab procedure to spill anything on yourself, but even a drop wouldn't be the end of your life (just a little uneasy for awhile). Anyone who knows good lab safety can have a good result, sadly I would never try (a good thing, only sad since it cost a lot of money) to provide the very costly equipment to varify results (just having crystals emit light when shaken in the dark is a fine and dandy test but uncertian on the way to that point if you are no pro learning the ropes).

A mass spec and what it takes to isolate the alkaloid from the ergot you desire (some form of chromatographer I am not sure whitch) are hard to come by if you aren't in college or don't have lab access with freedom to preform such an illegal operation.

they aren't illegal to obtain although a bit sketchy to have at a "in the dark" lab but nobody is really watching those and really are costly but not impossible to invest in.

The ammount of chemicals you could make with those two forms of equipment is simply huge right now and not getting smaller.

Don't get me wrong, having some of this stuff is way cool and not to show off so it's not like showing a pot plant to a "friend"....more like a life investment for small personal batches of what ever...hell, you could by a nice car or a down payment on a house for what it cost to own these fancy toys (well, not a toy but as we grow older they are; just not for kids to tinker with and break).

Face it, an ergot tartrate maker in the US underground has a good start; nothing to get caught with crossing the border (that is a doulbe no no). Basically mafia type things moved most of that in the past and not everyone wants to rely on such motives....more interested in the fundamentals than simply production and making money (which some did quite good with apparently before getting caught).

nice...my sister has told me a little bit about ergot and shes actually majoring in molecular biology and one the pre req's is organic chemistry...i wonder if she'll know whats up lol

Wow, for some stupid reason I never knew untill a few weeks ago that she actually fruits little mushrooms. I guess I never heard that much in popular culture, plus it's a real damn shame that we forget to tell very often that LSD comes from ERgot....it's not really a chemy.......something just wiped up in a labatory with no roots back to nature........and that is everything to me, well; not much more than understanding the affects and how there is safe uses.

I wish I knew as much as my brother in law, he's damn close to becoming a Professer in Organic Chem...Phd and all that (could make anything known to man perfectly with that kind of experience.)

Capita said:

fucking around with ergot fungus is very very dangerous and can kill you.. and to grow cultures large enough to use for lsd you have to have to grow it in a sterile room in a pea tree dish.. much more equipment and work than a reg person would have

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This is patently false. Most Claviceps fungus species do not produce the precursor alkaloids when cultured on a medium. In the experiments detailed in Proceedings of the Royal Society ofLondon, Series B, Volume 155, pages 26 to 54 (1961) and USPatent 3,219,545 they explain that they had to search high and low for the unique varieties That are capable of producing the right chemicals while being cultured. Successful LSD production would include cropping a field of rye and infecting the flowers with a solution of liquid culture generated from ergot collected in the wild. The isolated chunks of ergot would need to be winterized prior to spawning into a terrarium. If you don't cool the ergot it will not germinate. At this point it's very similar to growing regular mushrooms, which is the goal. Once the tiny mushrooms grow and reach maturation they are picked just before exploding (thus releasing spores). At this point the fruit is moved to a sterile environment, such as a still air box, a shmuvbox or a flow hood. The cap is lanced, while suspended over a piece of sterile glass, such as a lens slide. A liquid culture medium is created, sterilized by pressure cooking, and inoculated with the spores. The result is a jug of germinated spores looking for a rye plant to infect. Load the mixture into a spray tank (think a pump action tank you can carry around with a misting wand). Dilute down and spray the flowers in your target field of rye with the liquid culture and wait. When it's time to harvest, use an old school sickle so you don't lose your crop to a combine (can break up the pieces prematurely and cause yield loss). Once you have everything gathered, shake the ergot off each stalk and put aside. The yield must be dried immediately to prevent loss due to mold. Once dried it will keep for a little while, but should be utilized ASAP. Big time growers will have 1-2 acres dedicated strictly to growing rye so they have a constant supply of the important alkaloid precursor.

Info is from uncle fester's guide which is a great read if you haven't checked it out.

Hahaha...I'm not a scientist,chemist..I have background education...I don't know you,or your background/knowledge...you may be the next mensa god for all I know..what I also know is unless you got MAD $$$$ then this is a pipe dream in an aspect..althogh obtainable(I seen a precurser for mdma in a shampoo formula the other day)..its highly unlikely you will achieve chemicals synth..but I salute your effort and hope you achieve your goal!!!

Uncle fester.....lol

I'm 34,and disproved techs in his guide when I was 14 by asking my biology teacher in highschool..there is no need for wood alcohol in any extraction,let alone egot substance...not an expert but what I've learned..who knows?duck?

Token said:

I've already done that and sold the lsa extract for 70 bucks for like 15 hit's lift, I've already got a half ass lab set up until I move then I can set up a real one when I get into my house, lately I've been doing dmt lsa mescaline opium morphine codeine and ephedrine extraction, so I do know little bit about chemistry and organic chemistry!

also I remember when I was in the UK that one of the lords wife ate some bread with ergot in it and tripped, riding her horse through the town naked, so It can't be that bad to grow some.

ps I've never read the anarchist cook book, I found listening to your parents/family can be very helpful.

I'm just going to keep doing research til i fill ready to embark on this adventure

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Dude do you have ANY CLUE how hardcore makin acid is? A half-assed lab?! Bro, you need to be kitted out with a vacuum-chamber just so your de-hydrating agent doesn't make stuff catch fire if it spills (yup).

Don't talk SHIT nobody you know ate ergot and tripped bro, I don't believe it for a second. Ergot poisoning cuts off all circulation to the extremities resulting in severe pain akin to frostbite, the loss of limbs and such. Fingers falling off guy. There is absolutely NO way you can eat bread with ergot in it and go have a happy time. Not one that would make you want to go through it anyhow.

Acid is so hard to make that the real deal is becoming harder to find than a good lab-grown DMT crystal. Mostly guys are eating weak-ass DOB paper and thinking 'whoooa strong acid'. Post 90's acid is a JOKE. Can't even give us PROPA DOB anymore, you know, hallucinations for 28 hours kinda TRIPPIN'

Let it go man, for your own health and safety.

If you REALLY insist on Ergot, I can save your life for you. Dr Albert Hoffman himself isolated a pure LSA Ergot strain with no poisoning, whereby pretty much solving the mystery of the Eulysian Mystery Schools. It is found in a tiny area only, you'll find clues to how to find it in Graham Hancock's Supernatural. If you want ergot, don't be a douche and go about it all willy-nilly, you go poisoning yourself and your mates and it's BAD NEWS FOR THE REST OF US bro.

The White Rabbit is one of the very very few to have cracked the 'code' and it is still Owlsley's methods being handed down in the circles than know.

Children should stay away from matches is all I'm sayin'.

And UNCLE FESTER??? LOL LOL LOL.....