Feds be warned: lawyer John Conroy is targeting THC limits for cannabis edibles and extracts

gb123

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Feds be warned: lawyer John Conroy is targeting THC limits for cannabis edibles and extracts
by Charlie Smith on September 4th, 2019 at 3:40 PM
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  • B.C. lawyer John Conroy's court wins for cannabis users transformed the legal landscape in Canada.
One of Canada’s best-known cannabis lawyers is gearing up to launch a court challenge against incoming new federal rules for edibles, extracts, and topicals.

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In a phone interview with the Georgia Straight, John Conroy said the looming limits of 10 milligrams of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) per package of edible cannabis, 10 milligrams of THC per unit of cannabis extracts, and one gram per package of cannabis extracts fall far short of what’s required by some medicinal users.

The prospective case involves an unnamed mother of a young child who requires high-end extracts to treat multiple seizures.

“You’ve got kids with significant medical issues whose parents have got them medically approved for high-end concentrate extracts—and they still won’t be able to get them legally,” Conroy said. “So the government is once again failing to prevent the violation of the constitutional rights of medically approved patients.”

The regulation pursuant to the Cannabis Act takes effect on October 17. Conroy maintained that it will “arbitrarily deprive” medicinal cannabis patients of their right to security of the person, which is guaranteed under Section 7 of the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

To illustrate his point, he cited the example of Shawn Davey, whom Conroy represented in the Allard case in the Federal Court of Canada. Many years ago, Davey suffered a permanent brain injury after a motorcycle accident and he has used cannabis since 2002 to relieve pain.

According to the 2016 court ruling, Davey was being prescribed 25 grams per day when he and the other plaintiffs won the right to grow their own weed. He required such a heavy dose because he made cannabis butter for his edibles.

“So if he was doing [legal] edibles, he would have to buy 2,500 packages a day, which is ludicrous,” Conroy said. “He’ll die from the sugar content in the edibles.”

Conroy added that since he successfully argued the landmark Owen Smith case in the Supreme Court of Canada in 2015, Canadians have been allowed to possess cannabis in any of its forms for their medical situation. But until edibles and extracts are legal in October, they have nowhere to acquire them other than in the underground market unless they grow their own weed.

“Many of them, obviously, can’t make it themselves,” Conroy said. “They’re seriously ill with serious issues.”

Moreover, he suggested that the regulation on edibles and extracts won’t be sufficient to meet the legal standard established in the Owen Smith ruling.

“So there may—in fact, probably will be—an independent case before October 18 that might be filed in Federal Court on that issue,” Conroy said.


Government advised of shortcomings
The federal government is already aware of Conroy’s concerns because he laid them out in an 18-page submission following the unveiling of the regulation for cannabis edibles, extracts, and topicals.

“While the risks may be unique, they surely are not greater than alcohol, tobacco, natural health-care products and prescribed drugs, yet those products do not appear to require anywhere near the same restrictions despite their well-known public health and safety risks,” Conroy wrote. “Further, if the objective is to eliminate the underground market, this objective will not succeed if you propose to unreasonably limit the existing market products through continued prohibition.”

In the submission, Conroy demanded to know the origin of the 10-milligram THC limit.

“While such packages with such low limits should be available for novice and intermittent users to enable them to ‘go slow’,” he stated, “these provisions fail to take into account the requirements of an experienced user, and in particular an experienced chronic user, such as a regular medically approved patient.”

Conroy is also planning a second legal challenge in Federal Court to seek a judicial order that medical dispensaries—including compassion clubs—should be permitted.

"It will be like Allard—seeking a declaration that medical dispensaries...are part of reasonable access," he said.

By pursuing this approach, this would no longer simply be an issue of municipal community safety teams enforcing the will of the provincial distributor or applying municipal zoning rules.

Rather, it would become a matter of federal licensing.

If this succeeds, Conroy anticipates that growers who have been blocked from obtaining federal producers’ licences might then be permitted to sell cannabis for medical purposes to compassion clubs.

One of his chief concerns is that federal licensing rules are shutting out people with extensive history in cannabis production. In his opinion, that's only fuelling the underground market rather than diminishing it.

"They're still stuck in this attitude that 'oh, if you have the slightest connection to the cannabis industry in the past, you're not going to get a security clearance and you're not going to be able to participate,' " Conroy said.

He insisted that a better approach would be to open pathways for these people to enter the industry, just as was done with the Kennedys, Seagrams, and Bronfmans following the end of alcohol prohibition.

That could be accomplished by officials providing licences but warning these applicants that they're going to have to follow the rules if they want to remain in the business.

"Take the existing industry and roll it in so it's not competing with you," Conroy advised. "They keep saying they're trying to get rid of the black market but they keep doing things to maintain it—the edibles being the classic example.

"They delay edibles a year," he continued. "Then they come up with this ridiculous 10 milligrams [rule]. Where is your head, man? People are just going to keep going to the black market."

John Conroy will speak at the International Cannabis Business Conference, which takes place on September 15 and 16 at the Westin Bayshore Hotel. For more information, visit the website.
 

gb123

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“You’ve got kids with significant medical issues whose parents have got them medically approved for high-end concentrate extracts—and they still won’t be able to get them legally,” Conroy said. “So the government is once again failing to prevent the violation of the constitutional rights of medically approved patients.”

and they THINK this is their new cash crop BWAHAHAHAHA
Not on their fucking life it aint

CAN YOU SAY "DEMISE OF CANADA'S CANNABIS INDUSTRY AS THEY KNOW IT

bwahahahhaa
 
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gb123

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“So if he was doing [legal] edibles, he would have to buy 2,500 packages a day, which is ludicrous,” Conroy said. “He’ll die from the sugar content in the edibles.”

and the truth starts coming out ehh :)
 

gb123

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Further, if the objective is to eliminate the underground market, this objective will not succeed if you propose to unreasonably limit the existing market products through continued prohibition.”:hump::idea:
 

gb123

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In the submission, Conroy demanded to know the origin of the 10-milligram THC limit.

YA WHO IS THE IDIOT WHO CAME UP WITH THIS NUMBERo_O:idea::idea::idea::idea::idea::idea::lol::lol::lol::clap::clap::clap::blsmoke::blsmoke::blsmoke:

WANNA BET IT WAS A BUSINESS MAN who thought what hhe had to say was smart :lol:? :lol:
who doesn't see the shit comin out his own yap :lol:
 

gb123

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If this succeeds, Conroy anticipates that growers who have been blocked from obtaining federal producers’ licences might then be permitted to sell cannabis for medical purposes to compassion clubs.
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OH M<Y FUCKING GOD
CAN YOU SEE WHATs COMIN DOWN THE TUBES
BWAHAHAHAHA So much for LP shwag
 

Nadine Bews

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Hey Conroy, before you extort more money out of the public for yet another failed legal action, how about handing over the $1,000,000 your pal federal justice Phelan handed over to you as indemnification of Allard trial costs,...this money belongs to the patients and not Conroy and his little bitch Jason F. Wilcox or the bikers who you laundered money for through the Coalition..may you both die a slow painful death and rot in Hell for time immemorial...
 

gwheels

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It is unbelievable that they would charge 8 bucks for a 10mg gummy. That is the OCS price (i had to see what they charge)

An Ardent decarb machine would pay for itself pretty quick with that price. I would go bankrupt.

I like my gummy candy in the 50mg range so i can take a few and have them actually work.

30 grams decarbbed into 1 cup of oil...roughly 6000mg of activated THC. That would cost close to 500 bucks from the store. And it cost me about 30 all in (with my meds)

Kief 20 a gram...bubble for 40 a gram.....wow they are crazy.

It is pretty easy to do
 

Egzoset

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2 wrongs don't make 1 right but i do appreciate some diversity in perspectives, especially if made informative.
 

legalcanada

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any update on this legal challenge?? 10mg THC limit for edibles is fucking stupid, i would have to buy 10 of them for $6-$10 each?? 60 to 100 dollars just for a single dose? talk about ludicrous. i hope the LPs hurry up and go bankrupt
 

The Hippy

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any update on this legal challenge?? 10mg THC limit for edibles is fucking stupid, i would have to buy 10 of them for $6-$10 each?? 60 to 100 dollars just for a single dose? talk about ludicrous. i hope the LPs hurry up and go bankrupt
We all knew this would happen. They traded 40-50 years of " let's get these fucking stoners and arrest them" to " holy shit, these people have money, let's get it".
This is why they make me sick. They did this mostly to make money on us. Hence my outrage.
I will NEVER buy, smoke or promote legal cannabis EVER ! I see their little plan and it disgusts me.
BUY from those who always looked after you. The BM is here stronger than ever with economical and socially sourced items produced from folks who actually love cannabis and those who use it. Not a bunch of suits waiting to steal from you with over priced junk.
Anyone hear how their stores are doing?
BOYCOTT...more important now than ever.
 

legalcanada

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The BM is here stronger than ever with economical and socially sourced items produced from folks who actually love cannabis and those who use it
not sure about your area but most of the stuff i see locally on the black market is jam packed full of carcinogenic PGRs, i much prefer my home-grown to what my friends and acquaintances obtain, but i am fully on board with the lifetime boycott of the LP government schwagg. canadas regulations were designed specifically with corporate and venture capitalist interests in mind, made it basically impossible for small time and craft growers to participate. should be a free and open market for everyone to participate in!
 

The Hippy

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I've seen some pretty nice brands develop in the BM since legalization. Very upscale products with great lab testing done.
Yup I've never even been on the OCS website. I refuse to acknowledge they exist other than working against them.
 

Egzoset

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Unfortunately it was quite easy and convenient to fracture the cannabis consumers "community". Dividends are now collected as we got an eloquent example as to why right there: when it's Québekers who can't even buy "legal" e-Cigs via their monopoly SQdC (apparently even produced locally!) nobody seems to care, while our right to grow *4* (already grotesque limit as it is) has been confiscated to please Canadians who feel satisfied each time a Québeker is abused, if not add more of their own sauce...

What i can tell is that *i* didn't vote for a zealot i knew would crucify my whole province to maintain his voter-base.
 

Egzoset

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Salutations Cannadan,

over grow Québec and Manitoba
Be careful, that could be interpreted as if it was meant to be a discriminatory remark in disguise... It turns out i just finished handling a post clearly demonstrating even a forum board supposed to promote "Harm Reduction" can actually get contaminated by installed trolls acting as staff/moderators:
RACIST Troll Accommodation on BlueLight.Org

By chance i see hint here suggesting you're simply acknowledging the fact that there were indeed sacrificed provinces. :wall: Which is accurate enough!

Too bad there are canuck citicens who feel celebrating over such situation exactly, the sample i just provided illustrates how far they're ready to go, In The Name Of Children i guess.

Good day, have fun!! :peace:
 
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DrKiz

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Unfortunately it was quite easy and convenient to fracture the cannabis consumers "community". Dividends are now collected as we got an eloquent example as to why right there: when it's Québekers who can't even buy "legal" e-Cigs via their monopoly SQdC (apparently even produced locally!) nobody seems to care, while our right to grow *4* (already grotesque limit as it is) has been confiscated to please Canadians who feel satisfied each time a Québeker is abused, if not add more of their own sauce...

What i can tell is that *i* didn't vote for a zealot i knew would crucify my whole province to maintain his voter-base.
Alberta here. Have a few friends from Montreal.

You guys are ok. It’s just the psycho’s in suits playing divide and conquer.
 
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