southernsmoke23
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What are they?
How are they produced?
How are they produced?
Feminized Seeds?
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dwcattempt
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they are a rip off 1st of all, based on how you grow a plant stress can turn these feminized seeds male. i have bought them before at nirvana seeds and they turned male on me 3 of 10.
newb19547
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they are seeds that are more likely to be female when planted. I forgot how they are made....I think its a Hermie plant that you take the seeds from and grow those...then breed that with another plant to produce seeds that would then be feminized. And don't base your opinion on them off of th guy above me. I've heard way more good then bad about them.
ford442
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i was all excited about the prospect until i read this - http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/node/394
the yield is not always good - i guess you get a lot of hermies..
the yield is not always good - i guess you get a lot of hermies..
southernsmoke23
Active Member
What would happen if you planted seeds straight from a hermaphrodite?!
FilthyFletch
Mr I Can Do That For Half
It has niothing to do with a true hermaphidite. Feminized seeds are made with a supposed 90% female birth rate. There is a natural stress method and then a silver colloidial solution method. In the natural stress you will take a known female plant ie a female clone and natural stress the plant as much as possible trying to force a stress chnage which can amke the plant produce male parts ie pollen. A true hermie is a genetic flawed plant no good for this. Now you take the pollen from the stress induce female and pollinate another clone female from the same original the first clone came from and get that one into flower. Now pollanate that with the pollen you made and the seeds produced will be female. Now with the silver colloidail solution you dont physical stress you mist the plants daily with the solution while they are in first flower and it will make pollen sac. then you do same procedure as natural way and pollanate the second female clone and get the fem seeds.
southernsmoke23
Active Member
So what would happen if i planted the seeds straight from a hermaphrodited female?!?!
FilthyFletch
Mr I Can Do That For Half
Youd get a plant that tends to grow up as a hermi or more male tendency
PeachOibleBoiblePeach#1
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Yea, Nice fletch, Now you know why they cost more. and maybe some breeders or company's are taking some short cuts in the game? or just plain sloopy just a thougt?
FilthyFletch
Mr I Can Do That For Half
well your playing god with genetics so errorsd happen since we arent god basically. Its pretty cheap to do at home and seems to be very easy. i am making my silver colloidial generator then making the solution. You can buy it for like $20 for 4 oz at most health stores then just takes time for the flowering and seed production and good to go
zerran elar
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A female hermie? no such thing, it would just be a female then, Hermaphrodite means, Male and female sex organs,
northwoodsmoker
New Member
i bought some fem seeds n they were females..
southernsmoke23
Active Member
well it was a female clone and it hermed.
FilthyFletch
Mr I Can Do That For Half
If it was a known female clone where the plants had been grown though finish a few times and no herms came up then your clone may have inadvertedly been stressed to hermie then you could use the pollen it produces then get another clone from same mom plant and pollanate it for fem seeds
southernsmoke23
Active Member
It wasnt my plant! i jus got some seeds from it. Are they no good?
FilthyFletch
Mr I Can Do That For Half
Only if you know for sure the mom is a ytried and true female only supplier. If she was never test grown from clones over time its a crap shoot now if the person who has the mom has been using her and taking clones and grew many clones to harvest and has not gotten hermies then your ok. If not then you may have a clone from a feamle with hermi tendencies in her genes
southernsmoke23
Active Member
Well the female plant belongs to one of the main dispenseries where i live. Im assuming that it is a legit female. I was told the whole permium grow room hermed 4 differnt kinds of bud.
dwcattempt
Well-Known Member
i had bought some o.g. kush from my dispensary too and it had about 15 seeds in the 1/8, does that mean it will be male if i grew with the seeds
kremnon
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these lamos don' know what they are talking about
hermies and fem seeds turning male. true feminized seeds are great ive's been making my own for almost ten years it's a great way to keep your gentics safe,,, these were feminized by accidental light poisoning in some ones grow.
RODELIZATION: SOMA'S WAY TO FEMALE SEEDS
Heres an easy, environmentally friendly method for breeding feminized seeds.
by SOMA
Wed, Jul 30, 2003 12:00 am
more: grow articles, soma, breeding, seed company, strains
Story by Soma
Creating feminized cannabis seeds is an art. Just like art, there are a few different methods of application. I have written about some of my different methods of making seeds in previous HIGH TIMES articles. I have used gibberellic acid, pH stress, light stress, and fertilizer stress to force my female plants to make seeds. All of these methods are harsh on the plants, and some, like the gibberellic acid, are not organic. In my search for cleaner, more earth-friendly ways of working with the cannabis plant, I have found a new way to make feminized seeds. Feminized seeds occur as a result of stress, rather than genetics. All cannabis plants can and will make male flowers under stress. Certain strains like a higher pH, some a lower one. Some like a lot of food, some like much less. There is quite a lot of variety in marijuana genetics, and you cant treat every plant the same way.
It takes many harvests before you really get to know a particular strain. Just like getting to know human friends, it takes time. I have grown the same strains for close to a decade, and am truly getting to know every nuance the different plants exhibit. I can recognize them from a distance. I must say that I get a lot of help from my friends, both in making seeds and in learning new and better ways of working with this sacred plant.
I named this new method "Rodelization," after a friend who helped me realize and make use of this way of creating female seeds. After growing crop after crop of the same plants in the same conditions, I noticed that if I flowered the plants 10-14 days longer than usual, they would develop male "bananas." A male banana is a very slight male flower on a female marijuana plant that is formed because of stress. Usually they do not let out any pollen early enough to make seeds, but they sometimes do. They are a built-in safety factor so that in case of severe conditions, the plant can make sure the species is furthered.
To me, a male banana is quite a beautiful thing. It has the potential of making all female seeds. Many growers out there have male-banana phobia. They see one and have heart palpitations, they want to cut down the entire crop, or at the very least take tweezers and pluck the little yellow emergency devices out. I call them "emergency devices" because they emerge at times of stress.
In the Rodelization method, the male banana is very valuable. After growing your female plants 10-14 days longer than usual, hang them up to dry, then carefully take them off the drying lines and inspect for bananas. Each and every banana should be removed, and placed in a small bag labeled very accurately. These sealed bags can be placed in the fridge for one or two months and still remain potent.
For the next phase, you need to have a separate crop thats already 2 1/2 weeks into flowering. Take your sealed bags of pollen out of the fridge, and proceed to impregnate your new crop of females. To do this, you must first match the female plant and the pollen from the same strain in the previous crop. Shut all the fans in the growroom down. Then take a very fine paintbrush, dip it in the bag of pollen, and paint it on the female flower. Do this to each different strain you have growing together. I have done it with up to 10 different kinds in the same room with great success.
I use the lower flowers to make seeds, leaving the top colas seedless for smoking. This method takes time (two crops), but is completely organic, and lets you have great-quality smoke at the same time you make your female seeds. If youre one of those growers whos never grown seeds for fear of not having something good to smoke, you will love this method.
You can also use this pollen to make new female crosses by cross-pollinating. The older females with the male bananas can be brought into the room with the younger, unpollinated females after they are three weeks into flowering. Turn all of the circulation fans on high, and the little bits of pollen will proceed to make it around the room. Do this for several days. Six to seven weeks later, you will have ripe 100% feminized seeds; not nearly as many as a male plant would make, but enough to start over somewhere else with the same genetics.
As a farmer who has been forced to move his genetics far away from where they started, I know very well the value of seeds. My friend Adam from ThSeeds in Amsterdam has a motto that I love to borrow these days: Drop seeds not bombs.
hermies and fem seeds turning male. true feminized seeds are great ive's been making my own for almost ten years it's a great way to keep your gentics safe,,, these were feminized by accidental light poisoning in some ones grow.
RODELIZATION: SOMA'S WAY TO FEMALE SEEDS
Heres an easy, environmentally friendly method for breeding feminized seeds.
by SOMA
Wed, Jul 30, 2003 12:00 am
more: grow articles, soma, breeding, seed company, strains
Story by Soma
Creating feminized cannabis seeds is an art. Just like art, there are a few different methods of application. I have written about some of my different methods of making seeds in previous HIGH TIMES articles. I have used gibberellic acid, pH stress, light stress, and fertilizer stress to force my female plants to make seeds. All of these methods are harsh on the plants, and some, like the gibberellic acid, are not organic. In my search for cleaner, more earth-friendly ways of working with the cannabis plant, I have found a new way to make feminized seeds. Feminized seeds occur as a result of stress, rather than genetics. All cannabis plants can and will make male flowers under stress. Certain strains like a higher pH, some a lower one. Some like a lot of food, some like much less. There is quite a lot of variety in marijuana genetics, and you cant treat every plant the same way.
It takes many harvests before you really get to know a particular strain. Just like getting to know human friends, it takes time. I have grown the same strains for close to a decade, and am truly getting to know every nuance the different plants exhibit. I can recognize them from a distance. I must say that I get a lot of help from my friends, both in making seeds and in learning new and better ways of working with this sacred plant.
I named this new method "Rodelization," after a friend who helped me realize and make use of this way of creating female seeds. After growing crop after crop of the same plants in the same conditions, I noticed that if I flowered the plants 10-14 days longer than usual, they would develop male "bananas." A male banana is a very slight male flower on a female marijuana plant that is formed because of stress. Usually they do not let out any pollen early enough to make seeds, but they sometimes do. They are a built-in safety factor so that in case of severe conditions, the plant can make sure the species is furthered.
To me, a male banana is quite a beautiful thing. It has the potential of making all female seeds. Many growers out there have male-banana phobia. They see one and have heart palpitations, they want to cut down the entire crop, or at the very least take tweezers and pluck the little yellow emergency devices out. I call them "emergency devices" because they emerge at times of stress.
In the Rodelization method, the male banana is very valuable. After growing your female plants 10-14 days longer than usual, hang them up to dry, then carefully take them off the drying lines and inspect for bananas. Each and every banana should be removed, and placed in a small bag labeled very accurately. These sealed bags can be placed in the fridge for one or two months and still remain potent.
For the next phase, you need to have a separate crop thats already 2 1/2 weeks into flowering. Take your sealed bags of pollen out of the fridge, and proceed to impregnate your new crop of females. To do this, you must first match the female plant and the pollen from the same strain in the previous crop. Shut all the fans in the growroom down. Then take a very fine paintbrush, dip it in the bag of pollen, and paint it on the female flower. Do this to each different strain you have growing together. I have done it with up to 10 different kinds in the same room with great success.
I use the lower flowers to make seeds, leaving the top colas seedless for smoking. This method takes time (two crops), but is completely organic, and lets you have great-quality smoke at the same time you make your female seeds. If youre one of those growers whos never grown seeds for fear of not having something good to smoke, you will love this method.
You can also use this pollen to make new female crosses by cross-pollinating. The older females with the male bananas can be brought into the room with the younger, unpollinated females after they are three weeks into flowering. Turn all of the circulation fans on high, and the little bits of pollen will proceed to make it around the room. Do this for several days. Six to seven weeks later, you will have ripe 100% feminized seeds; not nearly as many as a male plant would make, but enough to start over somewhere else with the same genetics.
As a farmer who has been forced to move his genetics far away from where they started, I know very well the value of seeds. My friend Adam from ThSeeds in Amsterdam has a motto that I love to borrow these days: Drop seeds not bombs.