Figuring out potency in mg?

Sunbiz1

Sunbiz1

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cannabineer said:
Yes, but you specified no heat. So I remain curious. The way you described it above notionally excludes the classic oven decarboxylation maneuver, which is a heating process
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There are a number of means to make a tincture, most involve heating at some point in the process for activation.
I cannot see a freezer substituting for a traditional oven baked de-carb, so opted for the warm method after decarb.
Am still experimenting, jar has only been sitting for 2 weeks;
https://honestmarijuana.com/marijuana-tinctures/
One of many sites out there when googling green dragon tincture.
https://estrohaze.com/cooking-with-cannabis-green-dragon-tincture/
That one is creative, using gum to flavor it.:lol:
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Sunbiz1 said:
There are a number of means to make a tincture, most involve heating at some point in the process for activation.
I cannot see a freezer substituting for a traditional oven baked de-carb, so opted for the warm method after decarb.
Am still experimenting, jar has only been sitting for 2 weeks;
https://honestmarijuana.com/marijuana-tinctures/
One of many sites out there when googling green dragon tincture.
https://estrohaze.com/cooking-with-cannabis-green-dragon-tincture/
That one is creative, using gum to flavor it.:lol:
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Love the site name
What you say makes sense. I do say that there should be a hot step somewhere. I disagree with the folks who say alcohol will decarboxylate THCA. Regardless of solvent (and without a solvent), you need at least ten minutes at 100 degrees C minimum.
An undecarbed alcohol extract will have some punch. But with as much as 80 per cent still "locked up" as THCA, potency could be much increased, which could be a pitfall if you take that tincture "cold" usually but then add an equivalent dose to a dish cooked hot.
 
Sunbiz1

Sunbiz1

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cannabineer said:
Love the site name
What you say makes sense. I do say that there should be a hot step somewhere. I disagree with the folks who say alcohol will decarboxylate THCA. Regardless of solvent (and without a solvent), you need at least ten minutes at 100 degrees C minimum.
An undecarbed alcohol extract will have some punch. But with as much as 80 per cent still "locked up" as THCA, potency could be much increased, which could be a pitfall if you take that tincture "cold" usually but then add an equivalent dose to a dish cooked hot.
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I went a little higher on the oven, 230F for 30 min...house smelled peppery wonderful!.
This freezer method has me intrigued, wonder if it would come out stronger should one brew at room temp for a couple weeks; then toss it in freezer for a few days. Any way this is done, the end product is not palatable; so am adding dark chocolate flavored glycerine sweetener from the health food store.
Then perhaps a no-bake chocolate cookie day, once I master the tincture.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Sunbiz1 said:
I went a little higher on the oven, 230F for 30 min...house smelled peppery wonderful!.
This freezer method has me intrigued, wonder if it would come out stronger should one brew at room temp for a couple weeks; then toss it in freezer for a few days. Any way this is done, the end product is not palatable; so am adding dark chocolate flavored glycerine sweetener from the health food store.
Then perhaps a no-bake chocolate cookie day, once I master the tincture.
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That time and temp should do the trick.

At that point I think the cold method will give you the cleanest(-tasting) extract, while the hotter methods will give higher total material return. For more flavor control, you'd have to go to the next level - distillate.
 
Sunbiz1

Sunbiz1

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cannabineer said:
That time and temp should do the trick.

At that point I think the cold method will give you the cleanest(-tasting) extract, while the hotter methods will give higher total material return. For more flavor control, you'd have to go to the next level - distillate.
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You mean steam distillation using a water cooled tube?.
This stuff just fascinates me, such a versatile product; bought some syringes to accurately fill vape cartridges and inject candies.
Apparently it can be evaporated all the way down to shatter.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Sunbiz1 said:
You mean steam distillation using a water cooled tube?.
This stuff just fascinates me, such a versatile product; bought some syringes to accurately fill vape cartridges and inject candies.
Apparently it can be evaporated all the way down to shatter.
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No. I do a direct molecular distillation under vacuum.

First I run a hydrocarbon extraction.
Then I distill at 160-180 degrees C and maybe 0.1 mmHg. Typically 2/3 of the extract cooks over. (This does a full decarb at the same time.)

Then I do a solvent dewaxing and a redistillation.

The resultant yellow-to-brown clear oil is reliably 80-90% THC by weight.

Since I found CCELL carts by Hamilton Devices, I've retired my dab rig and am now happily vaping distillate.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Sunbiz1 said:
Requiring expensive lab equipment from my reading of the process Cresco labs is using.
The above unit can run several thousand?
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I scrounged my equipment for hundreds. It helps that I worked in a lab and know what is meat and what is fat, figuratively speaking.
 
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