Finally decided on my seed, or well I think.

Skoal

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Well I think I made the final decision for my next grow. Two strains.

Going to run a Critical Mass CBD strain for the medical properties. Muscle pain and spasms not to mention to level me out. I am a very high strung individual it’s not even funny. Going to use this before bed to knock me out or even a few hits during the day and in the morning to keep me level headed.

My next strain I think is going to be Blue Dream. This will be my daytime weed or when I’m out and about at night and don’t want to be a zombie.

Looking forward to getting these seeds. Was thinking about Sour Diesel to replace the Blue Dream but I think Blue Dream will be more mellow and better for me. Thinking I’m making a good choice after thinking about this for a while. Was also going to do Girl Scout crack but now I’m feeling that may be too heavy for daytime.
 

jimihendrix1

Well-Known Member
Look into

The Nature Farm Genetics.....
First RELEASE stock. *Cannatonic Crossed to the Skunk#18 IBL

Reina Madre x New York City Diesel (Old Soma CBD Male) this Cannatonic i felt had a bit more thc present on the effect was not a pure cbd cultivar, so from all trait match and smoke, id safely assume shes the 2:1. From the full in double serrations she exhibits and where she is from, she is a rare end selection for sure. Effect is very nice body relax but it is also a bit stoney to it.

Pain relief, anxiety relief. Only difference in growth to ACDC, is Cannatonic stays a bit more stout, and alot more stouf without the spindle hemp branching. Both are absolutely dripping by finish. Also on the terpenes id call Cannatonic a very tart lemon pez terpene, tart and sour, with just a touch of the artificial pine cleaner. Very very similar appearances, in the end they are their own beasts. Yield is moderate. A good 10 week flower. Node spacing is average. Calyx to leaf ratio is average. Medicine.

If you want the Real Deal Santa Cruz Blue Dream Cross look into this 1.

The Nature Farm Genetics.
Santa Cruz Blue Dream x Skunk#18

SC Blue Dream is for real Blueberry muffin to straight sour blueberry haze Terps with a very nice productive stone. Sometimes while she’s growing I even get that blueberry lemonade nose off her real pucker up sour type shit on the thinnest of haze blades. I’ve even heard sour gobstopper flavor and that’s spot too. She is fantastic to grow once you figure her quirks and the smoke for me will forever be a classic. So damn caked talking resinated and still has quite the medicinal effect for many. Yield is Above Average, Quality is Tops. Also a known Cure for Migraines. Flower onset is fast with a 10-11wk flower max.

Hit to the two rank Skunk#18 studs I expect all flower times to be reigned in except in the fastest pairings, all long flowering sativas will be brought down by a week or two off finish, Tighter Flower formations, Enhanced yield, Quality undiminished and of course That ‘Skunkbud’ funk. The Skunk to take the front seat especially in this pollination as i really selected hard for only Skunkbud individuals. I say in most all pairings that they take over 2/3 pretty easy, but they do let the mom come through pretty damn nice when she shines, even beautiful recessed looks and sometimes all new flavors are the result.
 

dabby duck

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Any cbd line is usually wide open, it could take many rounds to segregate cbd allele. Just fyi, you will tend to get thc rich to 1:1,unless you segregate and it seems that "cbd" strains lose their cbd as they are line bred, what I mean is that % of cbd chemical is not lost, but ratio of cbd to thc in the genotype,kind of interesting.
 

Skoal

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Any cbd line is usually wide open, it could take many rounds to segregate cbd allele. Just fyi, you will tend to get thc rich to 1:1,unless you segregate and it seems that "cbd" strains lose their cbd as they are line bred, what I mean is that % of cbd chemical is not lost, but ratio of cbd to thc in the genotype,kind of interesting.
I have no idea what you just said lol.
 

Observe & Report

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SC Blue Dream is for real Blueberry muffin to straight sour blueberry haze Terps with a very nice productive stone. Sometimes while she’s growing I even get that blueberry lemonade nose off her real pucker up sour type shit on the thinnest of haze blades. I’ve even heard sour gobstopper flavor and that’s spot too. She is fantastic to grow once you figure her quirks and the smoke for me will forever be a classic. So damn caked talking resinated and still has quite the medicinal effect for many. Yield is Above Average, Quality is Tops. Also a known Cure for Migraines. Flower onset is fast with a 10-11wk flower max.

Hit to the two rank Skunk#18 studs I expect all flower times to be reigned in except in the fastest pairings, all long flowering sativas will be brought down by a week or two off finish, Tighter Flower formations, Enhanced yield, Quality undiminished and of course That ‘Skunkbud’ funk. The Skunk to take the front seat especially in this pollination as i really selected hard for only Skunkbud individuals. I say in most all pairings that they take over 2/3 pretty easy, but they do let the mom come through pretty damn nice when she shines, even beautiful recessed looks and sometimes all new flavors are the result.
When a breeder goes on about the parents and says nothing about the cross itself then I think it is safe to assume that it is an untested chuck.

I'm growing an SCBD cross right now, Bodhi Space Nectar. At first it smelled just like those blueberry scented markers which only smell vaguely like blueberry but now smells a like blueberry syrup.
 

jimihendrix1

Well-Known Member
He says the Sk18 will be dominant in 2/3 of the crosses its crossed with.

Id also hardly call someone a pollen chucker who has supplied genetics to several well known breeders.

He gave Bob Hemphill the

1979 Romulan Cut
1995 Black Domina..and also this cut won the 2017 Humboldt Cup for best Indoor Indica.
Gave Hemphill
Dumpster cut
Uncirculated Skelly Hashplant
Personally has over 200 elite clones, and access to more than that.
His father has been a collector, and breeder since the 70s.


Original Weasel cut Diesel
90s MassSuperSkunk
89 NL5
90s Silver Haze
Original Haze/Cultivators Choice.
And a bunch more.

Hardly a pollen chucker.

Also if you know anything about real deal old school skunk. Both the Sk18, and the SSSC Sk1 you then know this stuff pairs well with almost anything you hit it with. It is very consistent from 1 plant to the next.
Even though there areslight variations, they are more chemical, than structural and are very predictable in what they offer in a cross.
 
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jayblaze710

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He says the Sk18 will be dominant in 2/3 of the crosses its crossed with.

Id also hardly call someone a pollen chucker who has supplied genetics to several well known breeders.

He gave Bob Hemphill the

1979 Romulan Cut
1995 Black Domina..and also this cut won the 2017 Humboldt Cup for best Indoor Indica.
Gave Hemphill
Dumpster cut
Uncirculated Skelly Hashplant
Personally has over 200 elite clones, and access to more than that.
His father has been a collector, and breeder since the 70s.


Original Weasel cut Diesel
90s MassSuperSkunk
89 NL5
90s Silver Haze
Original Haze/Cultivators Choice.
And a bunch more.

Hardly a pollen chucker.

Also if you know anything about real deal old school skunk. Both the Sk18, and the SSSC Sk1 you then know this stuff pairs well with almost anything you hit it with. It is very consistent from 1 plant to the next.
Even though there areslight variations, they are more chemical, than structural and are very predictable in what they offer in a cross.
He definitely hasn’t tested the skunk18 crosses. He made dozens of crosses, he’s one dude, and I’ve seen zero pics of any of them despite him constantly posting pictures.

Listing a shit load of clones he owns doesn’t mean he is or isn’t a chucker. It’s not like he bred them himself.
 

Observe & Report

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I checked the Nature Farm Genetics site, for a breeder site it's not bad. Due to legalities most breeders don't even have a site and most of the rest are terrible. Anyway, I checked a half a dozen skunk crosses there and they all had pics. Not great pics but pics of plants, I assume of the cross and not the mothers. So rock on NFG. Maybe they should more clearly describe the cross itself. Theres a lot of chaff out there, it is hard to sort through.
 

jayblaze710

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I checked the Nature Farm Genetics site, for a breeder site it's not bad. Due to legalities most breeders don't even have a site and most of the rest are terrible. Anyway, I checked a half a dozen skunk crosses there and they all had pics. Not great pics but pics of plants, I assume of the cross and not the mothers. So rock on NFG. Maybe they should more clearly describe the cross itself. Theres a lot of chaff out there, it is hard to sort through.
All of the pictures and descriptions are of the mom in the cross. I’ve attached a few examples from his IG account, followed by the same picture/plant on the website. I only started seeing skunk18 cross pictures posted on his IG within the last month, and they’re all reposts from other growers.
 

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Observe & Report

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hahahahahaha good work! I was wrong to give him the benefit of the doubt and think this is a new low in lameness. What other seed vendor has page after page of strains for sale with only pics of the parents? I guess it is better than the nothing you usually get but it would have been a lot better if he was clear the pics and descriptions were of the parents only.

I think it is all but confirmed that he also rubbed around 100 stems to find those two males...


Now we're really crashing this thread.
 

jimihendrix1

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He does make sure that people know these were the parents.

Its also known that the Sk18 drop of 140 or so packs sold out in 3-4 hours. As did a few other strains.

MANY of the photos posted on his website are from OTHER PEOPLE GROWING HIS GEAR, AND REPORTING ON IT. Of course not the newest stuff, but theres all kinds of people showing the outsome of his last drops, and stuff hes had for sale for awhile.

Also these a million photos of other people growing plants from the first drop, and NOBODY was unhappy. We really like ours, and threw away several other mothers we had been running for over 5 years because this was simply better weed. This didn't grow quite as fast, and the yield was less, by not a lot as the SSH is more Sativa, and stretches a lot more than most. We got 24oz a plant with the SSH under 1000w Hortilux HPS, and 20 Gallons Promix BX, and 50 days veg under 1000w.

We have been running Mr Nice SSH F2 which we went through over 200 females, and the 4 TNF crosses we grew were all better than this plant, and this was a good plant.
It also knocked out Swami Blue Orca Haze out of the room....Nature farm also uses some of Swamis genes, and are also friends, and I also trust, and recommend Swami gear.

Nature Farm has also started doing Genetic Testing, and has posted a pic of the outcome, and you can see it in the Phylos Encyclopedia..and Instagram. Also has a Terpene Profile Test Result on Instagram.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bli4ov8gq4i7ogoKjen1AUH4IBMEzgR1E_F8io0/?taken-by=thenaturefarm
  • Skunk18. Terpene test. Gas chromatography, tested 11.9% terpenes or some shit, off the charts.
    All rare end, zero myrcene or other common terpenes, Nuclear. This blend here plus Thiols make what we know as Skunk Funk.
    Realistically that is a 4to5 percent liquid chromatography test which is still very high. Very very terpy medicine doesn't hit over 20% thc, with the most cerebral magic occular stone about, the best expressions will set you back in time.
    Much more work to be done and tests to be conducted, these are but the first.
  • _1_luvv
    Isopulegol ? Wtf . Crazy terps
  • thenaturefarm
    @_1_luvv the precursor to menthol that one. heavy anxiolytic, gastroprotective and anti-convulsive properties as well. Healing terpenes. Many of these are anti cancer, anti tumor, anti seizure, anti depressant. Stuff that's just not in today's cannabis friend. Not in these counts or at all.
  • dr_green_thumb_707
    Damn 11.9 % terps ‍♂
  • greenwork420
    Hit damn @the.nature.farm that’s some shit ya don’t see every day
  • green_n_gold_organic
    @thenaturefarm and thank you for bringing them to the public. #healingofthenation
  • thenaturefarm
    @dr_green_thumb_707 they say more like a Legit 5% but still. They tested my sample twice because of these numbers and same both times.
  • _1_luvv
    @thenaturefarm one of the many reasons why I love cannabis... Divercity
  • ninjacorn_
    Fucking beast. Proof is in the pudding

Isopulegol is also usually not found and when it is usually in Trace Amounts.

So he also isn't afraid to put his stuff to genetic testing, but its slow because its expensive, and he aint rich.

If you didn't know those are the parents, you didnt read very carefully.My buddies have grown out the last drop 4 other strains he got, and all of them are very potent, and vigorous.

He also gave the Romulan Cut, 90s Black Domina, and several other cuts for his NL1 pairings, and Ive also grown them out. to Bob Hemphill/Coastal Seeds/EQgenetics.

Other Reputable Breeders are also working with him working , and are using his genetics, and hes using theirs... I don't think Bob Hemphill would mess with hi if he thought he was/is a dishonest pollen chucker.

Doesn't make a crap to me if anyone buys them or not.

I just know out of the strains.... ( 60 females ) weve grown, every plant was vigorous, and a good yield, and was hard to pick a mother as several had favorable characteristics, and we have only so much room... We grew the 1st drop of the Sk18, Dumpster x Sk18, Skunk Redux...89 NL5 x Sk18.

Were also growing the
Dominion Granny Skunk, Dominion Skunk, and just started 2 packs of Local Skunk from Duke Diamond VA/Dominion Seed Company.

Other buddy is growing the Coastal Black Domina, which Hemphill got this cut from Nature Farm for his NL1 Program.. And he says theyre beautiful.

But its makes no crap to me if you want them or not. All I know is weve grown out some of the last drop, and it replaced a few good strains...We look to do the same with the Dominion gear...Well probably just end up growing Dominion, Coastal, and Nature farm gear.

Also he got most all of his genetics from his father and his friends, who started collecting genetics in the 1970s...But it makes no crap to me if anyone gets them, but I know for sure the stuff we grew was very potent, and very vigorous.

ALso if you can tell something by a stem rub, you better go back and brush up.

Nevil, whom I guess you've heard of??

Says rubbing the stems was 1 of his determining factors, as his nose knew what it was looking for. Simple as that. Its not the whole story but Ive been growing weed since 1972, and I can for sure determine whats up by the smell, from a vegging plant.

Ive also got probably got over 300 indoor grows under my belt since 1978.., I got the first HID made for growing plants. It was from the Navy Submarine Division where they grew veggies in the Nuclear Subs for sustain the crew ect. It was a very fragile bulb, and they wouldnt guarantee it in shipping. If it was broken in shipping, tough luck. Then they came out with the Super Nova, and Octagarden. So I have been around the block, and don't just suggest shit for no reason. I also spent 8.5 years in federal prison, and 6 years supervised release for over 1000 clones on an indoor grow.
Its still the largest in East Ky from what I know. 1997. I did from 97-2009 mucking with the feds. 10-Life Mandatory Minimum. $3,000,000-$5,000,000 fine, which ya cant get blood out of a turnip. M also in an unfriendly state. 1 of the worst... I did 12 months felony conviction in 89-90 for 2 x 1/8th because they were in separate baggies. Possession with Intent, and I lived 300 feet from a school, so they added the trafficking within 1000 Yards of a school. I was the first in my county to be convicted of this. 1989... Was sentenced to 15 months, but got 3 off for good time.

Also if you don't know it, many of these genetics were available from late 80s-90s Sensi Seeds, Nevil/Seed Bank, SSSC, Cultivators Choice, The Flying Dutchmen, and many of TNF crosses are rehashes of what was once available, though admittedly not the same selections they used, but no less the guy goes through no less than 70-250 Males/Females for selections.

From what weve grown out so far, the genetics are as sound as the 80s-90s original genetics. I got busted with 1000+ Colorado Cough ( NL5 x Hz #17 ) x Nevils Seed Bank Hashplant/SSSC Sk1.

Heres some other peoples photos from his site from the previous drop,that were grown by other people, Sk18 Hybrids.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bli0Fp7AvoklC-lmsrKjeIHA608sgnlpP8GSXk0/?tagged=69skunk18ibl
https://www.instagram.com/p/BpADjPhF1LNzRzS1El6Bor4cmHKu55XXgZH8dc0/?taken-by=thenaturefarm

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bo__MTbF5rRiuR6qY6kI-lHEKCMmBvUbt1jv3I0/?tagged=69skunk18ibl

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bo7HfHQliv-HLiaRU0yBz12xYBH-ksJY159NAY0/?taken-by=thenaturefarm

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bom9KJIFlxtZNVHsQnCkdvglRBZYaumJHKZgRc0/?taken-by=thenaturefarm



https://www.instagram.com/p/BoqdHw1lPegAi5CnTZarCJKitov_nCPTMm6nrE0/?tagged=69skunk18ibl


https://www.instagram.com/p/Bom5NxfFdUEtU_gHTgXa_YFb_N8B1N1FnCrgDQ0/?taken-by=thenaturefarm

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bn2qwpgh1W89Z4JfSMu2J0XDrDRHo56ibQormA0/?taken-by=thenaturefarm
 
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blowincherrypie

Well-Known Member
He does make sure that people know these were the parents.

Its also known that the Sk18 drop of 140 or so packs sold out in 3-4 hours. As did a few other strains.

MANY of the photos posted on his website are from OTHER PEOPLE GROWING HIS GEAR, AND REPORTING ON IT. Of course not the newest stuff, but theres all kinds of people showing the outsome of his last drops, and stuff hes had for sale for awhile.

Also these a million photos of other people growing plants from the first drop, and NOBODY was unhappy. We really like ours, and threw away several other mothers we had been running for over 5 years because this was simply better weed. This didn't grow quite as fast, and the yield was less, by not a lot as the SSH is more Sativa, and stretches a lot more than most. We got 24oz a plant with the SSH under 1000w Hortilux HPS, and 20 Gallons Promix BX, and 50 days veg under 1000w.

We have been running Mr Nice SSH F2 which we went through over 200 females, and the 4 TNF crosses we grew were all better than this plant, and this was a good plant.
It also knocked out Swami Blue Orca Haze out of the room....Nature farm also uses some of Swamis genes, and are also friends, and I also trust, and recommend Swami gear.

Nature Farm has also started doing Genetic Testing, and has posted a pic of the outcome, and you can see it in the Phylos Encyclopedia..and Instagram. Also has a Terpene Profile Test Result on Instagram.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bli4ov8gq4i7ogoKjen1AUH4IBMEzgR1E_F8io0/?taken-by=thenaturefarm


Isopulegol is also usually not found and when it is usually in Trace Amounts.

So he also isn't afraid to put his stuff to genetic testing, but its slow because its expensive, and he aint rich.

If you didn't know those are the parents, you didnt read very carefully.My buddies have grown out the last drop 4 other strains he got, and all of them are very potent, and vigorous.

He also gave the Romulan Cut, 90s Black Domina, and several other cuts for his NL1 pairings, and Ive also grown them out. to Bob Hemphill/Coastal Seeds/EQgenetics.

Other Reputable Breeders are also working with him working , and are using his genetics, and hes using theirs... I don't think Bob Hemphill would mess with hi if he thought he was/is a dishonest pollen chucker.

Doesn't make a crap to me if anyone buys them or not.

I just know out of the strains.... ( 60 females ) weve grown, every plant was vigorous, and a good yield, and was hard to pick a mother as several had favorable characteristics, and we have only so much room... We grew the 1st drop of the Sk18, Dumpster x Sk18, Skunk Redux...89 NL5 x Sk18.

Were also growing the
Dominion Granny Skunk, Dominion Skunk, and just started 2 packs of Local Skunk from Duke Diamond VA/Dominion Seed Company.

Other buddy is growing the Coastal Black Domina, which Hemphill got this cut from Nature Farm for his NL1 Program.. And he says theyre beautiful.

But its makes no crap to me if you want them or not. All I know is weve grown out some of the last drop, and it replaced a few good strains...We look to do the same with the Dominion gear...Well probably just end up growing Dominion, Coastal, and Nature farm gear.

Also he got most all of his genetics from his father and his friends, who started collecting genetics in the 1970s...But it makes no crap to me if anyone gets them, but I know for sure the stuff we grew was very potent, and very vigorous.

ALso if you can tell something by a stem rub, you better go back and brush up.

Nevil, whom I guess you've heard of??

Says rubbing the stems was 1 of his determining factors, as his nose knew what it was looking for. Simple as that. Its not the whole story but Ive been growing weed since 1972, and I can for sure determine whats up by the smell, from a vegging plant.

Ive also got probably got over 300 indoor grows under my belt since 1978.., I got the first HID made for growing plants. It was from the Navy Submarine Division where they grew veggies in the Nuclear Subs for sustain the crew ect. It was a very fragile bulb, and they wouldnt guarantee it in shipping. If it was broken in shipping, tough luck. Then they came out with the Super Nova, and Octagarden. So I have been around the block, and don't just suggest shit for no reason. I also spent 8.5 years in federal prison, and 6 years supervised release for over 1000 clones on an indoor grow.
Its still the largest in East Ky from what I know. 1997. I did from 97-2009 mucking with the feds. 10-Life Mandatory Minimum. $3,000,000-$5,000,000 fine, which ya cant get blood out of a turnip. M also in an unfriendly state. 1 of the worst... I did 12 months felony conviction in 89-90 for 2 x 1/8th because they were in separate baggies. Possession with Intent, and I lived 300 feet from a school, so they added the trafficking within 1000 Yards of a school. I was the first in my county to be convicted of this. 1989... Was sentenced to 15 months, but got 3 off for good time.

Also if you don't know it, many of these genetics were available from late 80s-90s Sensi Seeds, Nevil/Seed Bank, SSSC, Cultivators Choice, The Flying Dutchmen, and many of TNF crosses are rehashes of what was once available, though admittedly not the same selections they used, but no less the guy goes through no less than 70-250 Males/Females for selections.

From what weve grown out so far, the genetics are as sound as the 80s-90s original genetics. I got busted with 1000+ Colorado Cough ( NL5 x Hz #17 ) x Nevils Seed Bank Hashplant/SSSC Sk1.

Heres some other peoples photos from his site from the previous drop,that were grown by other people, Sk18 Hybrids.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bli0Fp7AvoklC-lmsrKjeIHA608sgnlpP8GSXk0/?tagged=69skunk18ibl
https://www.instagram.com/p/BpADjPhF1LNzRzS1El6Bor4cmHKu55XXgZH8dc0/?taken-by=thenaturefarm

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bo__MTbF5rRiuR6qY6kI-lHEKCMmBvUbt1jv3I0/?tagged=69skunk18ibl

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bo7HfHQliv-HLiaRU0yBz12xYBH-ksJY159NAY0/?taken-by=thenaturefarm

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bom9KJIFlxtZNVHsQnCkdvglRBZYaumJHKZgRc0/?taken-by=thenaturefarm



https://www.instagram.com/p/BoqdHw1lPegAi5CnTZarCJKitov_nCPTMm6nrE0/?tagged=69skunk18ibl


https://www.instagram.com/p/Bom5NxfFdUEtU_gHTgXa_YFb_N8B1N1FnCrgDQ0/?taken-by=thenaturefarm

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bn2qwpgh1W89Z4JfSMu2J0XDrDRHo56ibQormA0/?taken-by=thenaturefarm
Im not talking shit but I gotta ask.. do you own NFG stock or something?

Well I think I made the final decision for my next grow. Two strains.

Going to run a Critical Mass CBD strain for the medical properties. Muscle pain and spasms not to mention to level me out. I am a very high strung individual it’s not even funny. Going to use this before bed to knock me out or even a few hits during the day and in the morning to keep me level headed.

My next strain I think is going to be Blue Dream. This will be my daytime weed or when I’m out and about at night and don’t want to be a zombie.

Looking forward to getting these seeds. Was thinking about Sour Diesel to replace the Blue Dream but I think Blue Dream will be more mellow and better for me. Thinking I’m making a good choice after thinking about this for a while. Was also going to do Girl Scout crack but now I’m feeling that may be too heavy for daytime.
check out jbcseeds.com BOGO bodhi..
 

jimihendrix1

Well-Known Member
Sir, you can ask me anything you like, as long as youre not a jerk. I have nothing to hide, work for nobody and just want to see people get good weed. Especially genes from the 70s-90s.

While I cant speak for him, and don't know, but I highly douby TNF has any kind of stock sales going on.

I know Duke Diamond VA is thininkg about quitting. Hes got a felony, costs $25,000 just to apply for a license, and hed probably get turned down. HE quit a high paying regular job, which he was lucky to have as a felon, and is having regrets about quitting the job, for growing commercially.

Same for TNF. Hes also got a felony, and they probably wouldn't let him have a license either.

Here in Ky, they wont let you work with Hemp if you have a felony conviction, and Ive been growing weed since 1972. 46 years experience. Fucking Mcds wont even hire me. But Im older now. When I got busted for 1/4oz felony, I was studying to be a Physical Therapist, and have been fucked ever since 89-90.


I also go to Guitar/Amplifier forums, and get accused of working for MOOG MUSIC, and Roger Mayer.

If you don't know who Roger Mayer is, he was Jimi Hendrix Pedal Guy. He made all of Jimi effects, or modded the 1s he did use. So I use them, and have over $5000 worth of his effects.
Same for MOOG. I have every MOOGERFOOGER, and MINIFOOGER they ever made to use with a guitar. Over $8000 paid,, and some of them are now worth $5000 alone because they stopped making them 3 months ago, and became instantly collectable.

Ive recommended Mayer so much, some of them say if they see me mention Mayer in a reply, they wont read any further.

Go to The Gear Page, and search Roger Mayer, Moog. Im 71strat there.

Check it out. A whole bunch of people accuse me of working for him, and MOOG.

I wish dude.

I only recommend what I know, and if someone doesn't give the correct info, I feel its a disservice to not set the record straight..

Also, I know I aint perfect, and can be wrong about things, and Im the first to be able to take constructive critism, without getting mad. Just don't jump on me.

But would you suggest I recommend genetics I personally haven't grown, or know a trusted friends I know is a good grower that has used the genes?? Of course you wouldn't.

Im also familiar with all of the old genes this guy has...This is the shit I had when the feds got all my shit, and I know how good it can be.

Same for Duke Diamond.

His Hashplant/SSSC Sk1 hybrids have the same daddy genetis the stuff the feds got from me.

I also recommend his gear, as highly as I do Nature Farm.

Im just tellin ya, anything that's got the Sk1, Sk18, Skelly/Sk1 will be pure fire if you got a good mommy, which these guys have super elite genetics.

If you ever used the old SSSC Sk1, Sk18, or HP/Sk1 crosses in a breeding program, you know what it brings.

Also if its not Nevils, Early Sensi Sk1, forget it. It is not the same. Mr NIce Shit, is Junk. Its Mids at best, and no reek. Same for modern Sensi. Junk. Not uniform at all. Highly variable.

If you havent all the crowing in the world I do is only talk. I just want people to get some good stuff. That's it... But I know real deal skunk crosses bring stability, vigor, and uniformity to any breeding program.

That's 1 reason DDs HP/Sk1 stuff is so good. It brings stability, uniformity, vigor, potency, and is predictable. REAL Sk1 has less than 5% Deviations. If its the real shit, from Super Sativa Seed Club. Sk18 is the precursor of Sk1. Sk1 had a lot of the reek bred out, to a sweet Thai, but Skunk still does show, Not RKS, more sweet cat piss floral spray. But it does reek. Notice Sk is Columbian, Mexican Thai Afghan.

Sk18 is Columbian Mex, Afghan. No Thai. But both have been bred to more Afghan structure. Sativa phenos do show up.
But I wish I did work for everyone Im accused of working for.
 
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Observe & Report

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Defend stem rubbing all you want, but it is the hallmark of a chucker. Anyone can rub the stems of their own plants and observe that it doesn't smell like the finished flowers. The connection between male stem rubs and the female flower traits they carry is even more dubious. Seed makers do it because comparing progeny of different males is way too time consuming and difficult. Stem rubbing is an excellent example of the streetlight effect. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streetlight_effect

re: selling out Jaws and Seed Junkie hermies sold out in minutes too. There is a sucker born every minute I'm told.

The Phylos and Kannapedia links posted on TNF's say that SK18 is a common genotype and not related to Colombian Gold.

Who is Master Thai, the source of these magnificent genetics? Someone who uses sock puppets to tout their gear because nobody is growing it and posting online. Reeferman called MT out for lying about getting genetics from him. That's who these ostensibly precious genetics come from, a bullshitter who has lost his mind. https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=75903 https://www.opengrow.com/topic/45604-anybody-know-master-thaï-genetics-from-tahoe-lake/
 

jimihendrix1

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I guess Nevil is a pollen chucker then because he also used this as part of his selection process.
Nevils where I got the idea from in the 80s.

Diss it all you want. Makes me know you don't know what youre talking about. Ive also been smoking weed since 1967, and growing since 1972..
Many people use smell as a guide. I could name some other big names, but its not my place. Stem rub has nothing do do with finished flowers. I know what me nose like to smell even from a young age. You cant tell a lot by the smell.
Think what you like. I know what good weed is, and have seen a lot of it in over 50 years.

I'll listen to Nevil, before youll change my mind, or decades of my own experience. Also stem rub aint the whole process either. Just 1 small part.....Don't like hollow stem plants either.

Reeferman is a joke, though I did grow the Willie Nelson with great results in 2006.
 
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