First Closet CFL Grow

Hey everyone,
I'm doing the good ol ebb and flow system. As the title says,, this is my first time and I've had a couple of complications growing these, as I"m basically adding stuff to the setup almost everyday. I finally have got my lights just how I want them. I'm going to post everything I have in the setup. Its day 23 right now and some of the pics are lower res because of cell phone. I borrowed my sisters camera, so now I can upload the High res pics of what they look like today. The first 9 days it was quite overwatered (cause im a noob) due to horrible drippers. I am using bagseed of some pretty good stuff but am not certain on the genetics.


Lights
8 26w 6500k CFL

Medium
Bcuzz Rockwool and Hydrocks

Nutes
Superthrive
Dutch Master Gold Part A (5-0-2.9)
Dutch Master Gold Part B (1.5-1-3.5)

Temp
77 Lights on (they are on 24/7)

Fan
120 MM PC Fan Blowing on lights

Humidity
Honestly dont know

PPM
Dont have $150 to spend on a meter and am no mathematician to figure it out lmao

PH Level
5.8

Air Stone
Topfin 5" Air Stone with Air Pump

Watering
Watering 2 drops a second for 15 minutes 4 times a day every 6 hours.

Final Setup


This is Juana the best of the 3




This is Mary. It started off being the best, now not so much.



This is Stretch, The worst one and gets his name from his inch stretch.



I am still honestly so amazed that Stretch or Mary are even alive. A few days ago I was rearranging the lights, and a PH bottle fell from the top shelf and smack dab on the plant (I know I know, never play with your setup when stoned ). It slightly tore the very bottom leaf and just bent Stretch for a few hours till the light perked it back up. Him and Mary both were affected by it and I believe that might be the reason why the last leaves that grew on Mary and Stretch are almost completely curled over at and none of the rest are. Correct me if I'm wrong please lol because I'm not to sure if that was a stress related incident or what.

Thanks everyone for taking the time to read the post. I should be updating daily/weekly. Any comment/suggestions are welcome!

Fantastic.. I hope yo will enter the JOURNAL CONTEST!

Started germinating 4 more seeds (K2) today so hopefully they will pop up in a couple of more days. The stuff I'm growing now is just bag seed so hopefully these will be better. I just got a new container that I am going to be making a new ebb and flow setup. The container holds 9 plants and I have two of em, so I'll have one for veg and one for flowering. At the end of the new setup I should have a total of 18 CFLs in veg and 22 CFLs in flower room. I have to get the proper tools to drill into this thick piece of container so it will be a few weeks before everything gets setup. I'll post pics as soon as I get everything situated.

Garden Knowm said:

Fantastic.. I hope yo will enter the JOURNAL CONTEST!

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I'm actually new to rollitup, and am not to sure how to enter the contest. I would love to join it

Day 25: No signs in growth out of Mary or Stretch. No improvement on curled over leaf sets on the tops of Mary or Stretch. Juana grew over an inch just last night and is going on 8th set of branches and is now exceeding over 9" tall. Though Mary and Stretch are also 9" tall, they are showing weak genetics with only producing 5 branches where as Juana is on the 8th. Will give Mary and Stretch the benefit of the doubt for another week. If no signs of improvement, I will cut the 2 down and a new set of seedlings and flower Juana. Plan on throwing Juana into flowering on April 9th to make it 50 days in Veg.

current PH is 5.8 with 4tb of Part A and 3tb of PartB and 1tb of ST.

PIcures coming on Day 30.

When should I start cloning Juana??? Its day 25 and I'm very tempted to do so. 8" tall enough to start cloning?

looks good dude good luck man

Success!!!! Right before I left the place one of the four K2 seeds cracked just after the first 24 hours! I put it in its on cube and placed it under 2 CFL's for the night. I gave it a good feeding of tap water balanced to 5.5 pH. Should be back tomorrow afternoon to see how far along it is!

Topped alll 3 plants tonight and will be posting pics as they start splitting branches.

The K2 seed is sprouting up pretty big already and the shells are about to fall off. Current pH raised to 5.7 but nothing drastic. Will hopefully be planting 3 more k2 tomorrow.

Hey toolage - found your journal. I'm not sure if i can help Mary and Stretch - are they bag seed? Could it be as simple as bad genetics?

email468 said:

Hey toolage - found your journal. I'm not sure if i can help Mary and Stretch - are they bag seed? Could it be as simple as bad genetics?

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Thanks for responding, yes they are bagseed. I figured it was probably bad genetics but I wasn't sure if it was because I added nutes to early or not. I think I'm just going to throw my best plant into flowering after these 2 branches come through, and start off these good seeds off. Thanks for your help! +rep!

toolage said:

Thanks for responding, yes they are bagseed. I figured it was probably bad genetics but I wasn't sure if it was because I added nutes to early or not. I think I'm just going to throw my best plant into flowering after these 2 branches come through, and start off these good seeds off. Thanks for your help! +rep!

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thanks for the rep and i'm happy to help.

The 2 branches on Juana are starting to poke out and grow, hooray!! Stretch and Mary on the other hand are doing horrible. No improvement on any growth or signs of showing the leaves are going to get better. I dont even think I will be throwing them into flower, probably not even worth wasting the watts.

The 2 seedlings that I have planted are doing wonderful. They both have lost their shells and are showing their leaves. Plan on start adding light nutes on April 3rd. Will post pictures tomrrow, unfortunantly they will be from my cell phone *had to give the camera back to sister*.

Also, to conserve on power bill, will be hooking the whole Light setup up to a car battery to a 400w power inverter that will be charged every 2 weeks or longer at like wal-mart or something.

Again, I would like to apologize for the quality of these upcoming pictures *they wont all be like this*. I'm not going to bother posting close ups of Mary or Stretch because they look worst then a beaten up prostitute.

Last night I was changing out my water and 2 of my cfls broke last night from me being clumsy.

Can anyone give me an opinion if doing all 6500k CFL's are better or is it better to have like 6 26w 6500k and 2 32w 4100Ks and 1 26w 2700K. I've read that this covers the full spectrum, I just didn't know the exact ratio I should use for 3 plants.

12 more days till Juana gets thrown into flowering, am not even gonna worry about flowering Mary or Stretch.


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Nutes
Upped it to 4.5Tb Part A
Upped it to 4Tb Part B
1Tb Superthrive

PH
5.8

Temp:
74

Plant Height:
10.4"
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i don't know enough about CFLs to help with that but the plant in the single pic looks healthy and happy!

email468 said:

i don't know enough about CFLs to help with that but the plant in the single pic looks healthy and happy!

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Thanks for the insight bro!!


It is now day 30 for Juana. Mary and Stretch are still alive *lmao* but omg they look like CRAP!!!! The tops on them look like they have been burnt to a crisp, but when I touch the leaves they are soft. I'm just letting this grow to see what future mutations it might have so I can learn from it.

Juanas fully recoverd from her topping and her two branches are splitting very nicely. Leaves are starting to come off the branches and they around 2 cm tall.

Unfortunantly, I don''t have any pictures. I'd send em through my cell phone but that's starting to get a little expensive lmao. Next paycheck I will be buying a good camera with a very good macro setting for close ups. I'll keep everyone posted because EVERYONE LOVES PICTURES!!!!!


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Changed water today and upped the nutes.

Gallons:
4g

Nutes:
5 TB PART A
5 TB PART B
1 Tsp Superthrive

PH:
5.5

Height:
11.7

So today I am picking up a 400w HPS for flowering. I was going to go with CFLs, but OMG I got a great deal on it so I couldnt pass it up. I'm also picking up a car battery to run my veg room off of. Simple $80 car battery and a 400w power inverter will be enough to power my veg room for 2 1/2 weeks before I have to recharge the battery. I'll have a savings of about $65 a month on my power bill with everything that is hooked up for the room. Not to mention the stealthness to the power company muhahaha.

I was thinking about running the car battery for my flowering room, but I would really hate for that battery to go out at the wrong time and mess up my light cycle, so I'm just going to stick with the wall for that one. I'll be going out in a few days to buy all the supplies to construct my flowering room. Once everything is finished I will post pictures of everything.


Supplies:
1 40gph water pump
1 Air Pump
1 Air Stone
Car Battery
Power Inverter
Hydrocks
Rockwool
Flower Nutes
Mylar
Wood
15ft of tube
3 Drippers
Fan
Digital Timer

I just realised the very first post in my journal I said I'm doing an ebb and flow system. Why I said that I dont know (I guess everyone gets a pass when they type while stoned ). I just realised it now while I was reading everything over. I am actually doing a trickle/drip feed setup. Sorry if there was any confusion lol.

Alright its day 33 and Juana is just flourishing! She is literally growing before my eyes. I'm going to post some pics of her and her toppings. She has easily exceeded over a foot tall. She will be going under flowering on Apr 1st due to impatient reasons lol.

My 2 K2 seeds are coming along nicely. They are 7 days old today and are already showing roots through their cube. Will still be feeding it a good dosage of balanced tap water for the next 7 days.

Along with much thought I've decided after Juana finishes flowering I am going to completely redo my setup. I'm gonna post my idea and any comments/suggestions/critiques/bashes are WELCOMED!!!


I was going to take my main plant and throw it into flowering in the next week or so. If it is a female I'm going to clone from it while it's in flowering. While that plant is flowering that clone is going to grow up to be nice mother. I will take clones from that mother, lets say 3 clones. After the roots develope I'll take those plants and throw them straight into flowering. 2 Weeks later I will take 3 more clones from the mother. After the roots develope on those 4 weeks will have passed on the first 3. So hopefully I will have a harvest of 3 small plants every month. I will also be taking these clones and instead of my setup in flowering being hydro I will actually be planting them in soil (expense reasons only). My mother will be growing in my trickle/drip hydro setup. The mother in vegetative room will be growing under 9 CFL's while the plants in the flowering room will be under a 400w HPS. Let me know what yall think!

*UPDATE*
Just got my 400w HPS and will be starting to build flower room in the next few days!

Went shopping yesterday and got a bunch of stuff for the room. It's coming along very nicely. Friends bringing over a stud finder on monday so we can hang this light properly.

Shopping List:
1 Oscilating Fan
6 Emergency Blankets
2 6ft Chains
18x24 Tarp
2 Ceiling Screw Hooks
4 120mm PC Fans
Dutchmaster Gold Flower Part A
Dutchmaster Gold Flower Part B
Dutchmaster Max Flower
Dutchmaster Silica
Dutchmaster Zone
Dutchmaster Liquid Light
Dutchmaster Penetrator

Juana is looking very good and if everything is looking as good as it does now, she'll be in flowering on Tuesday! I'll start posting pics as soon as I get the room fully up, stay tuned!

looks excelente!!!