i havent got much room as i'm using the aerogarden pro, 12" is all i have to play with, so ive been tying them down and they probably got a bit too much pruning, the two i pulled were the biggest but i thought they were males so i pulled them, 4 in the ag was too many aswell, they are bigger than the picture suggests but i'm more concerned about the flowering having trouble finding pictures of similar stage, i only had one 2700k 24w on them for the first 2 weeks of december, bit broke, then i got 2 more, they also have the ag lamps on them and a cfl in the ceiling just for extra light. but yeah they are small but for what i put them through they look big enough for me, when do they start looking like buds is what i really want to know, thanks for the comments any advice is appreciated, theirs photos of them at 2 months in my album, just before i pulled them, the one at the back was tiny so i'm pretty please with it really and its the one with 3 sets of leaves