First grow journal cannalope and ?

So first of all welcome. This will be my first grow journal so I hope I don't come out of this looking like an idiot but hopefully if I have troubles in the future you all can help me out. I have grown a few crops but my yeild was never really great, in fact I never weighed it so I don't really know. I don't own any fancy electronic ppm or ph tester so I'm just going to not worry about it unless I need to. Never really been good with fertilizer I just always went with the less is more strategy I guess.
Let me catch you up to what's going on I have a closet thats about 6' deep and 3' wide. I have a 250 mh and a 400 w hps thats not hung up yet. My goal is to harvest at least 5 oz. from 3 females. This is should be easy enough I figure but really a pound sounds a lot better so if I can do that I'll be very happy. So I will most likely veg for a while.
I just popped some cannalope haze seeds and WOS colombian gold. Did a little research and found a thread where they did a test run on their gear and all 3 strains hermied on them. Than I remember that I gave a friend some of their kush beans and he said it hermied on him I thought he probably had light leaks. Well now I'm just like fuck I'm out 60$ for all the stuff I bought from them and I got some babies right now. I'm glad I found this out now but it still sucks. So plans have changed. I need to know what strain you guys would like to see grown or would best fit my needs. If you have experience with the strain all the better.
querkle
jw blueberry
romulan
skunk #1
hawaaii from sativa seeds
mikado

Heres a pic from 1/20 not much to see but since than ive put mylar all around the room and the seeds have broken the ground.
do you really gotta upload all pics to sit or photobucket or something before posting em?

No takers? I'm gonna germ some new seeds like tonight.....guess ill just try out the hawaain sativa than.

sigh...well I guess I'll keep updating this although there's no interest. Got batteries for my camera so I'll post pics of the room that should help. I started germing some hawaain sativa from sativa seeds. Supposed to be stabilized from hawaii in amsterdam and flower in like 9 weeks so that should be cool to compare to the cannalope so we got 2 100% sativas here i plan on vegging for 1-2 months and training and super cropping as needed to keep the hieght managable but theres plenty of room for 3 girls.



heres a shot of the 400 w

and heres the babies so far 3 cannalopes and a colombian in the black. I had to move the fan closer to the seedlings so it kinda fucked up the fung shway but w/e

well I can't sleep so I took some pictures before the lights went out. They are transplanted from the small pots of fox farm light warrior the cannalopes and colombians were transplanted last week or something I had to get new pots so the hawaiians I popped just got transplanted today so hopefully they perk up they were starting to yellow and the stems went purple and new growth slowed but this soil mix has a lot of worm castings and some chicken manure in it-the other plants seem to like it. Also I switched from my 250 MH to my 400w MH (thought it was hps never used iit had it a while) so tomorrow will be their first day under that.

Pic one is the entire room obv.
pic 2 is what I am using for my outgoing fan it's on the shelf next to the ballast and above the light. Hopefully this will be enough I don't have a hygrometer/thermometer right now but can open the door all the way if needed
pic three is the plants:as you can see they're pretty stable looking as one would expect from these genetics. The two in the top corners are the colombians the 3 in the middle are the cannalope hazes(lookin indica right ) and the smaller one is the hawaiin there are two of these but they look the same. So that took forever maybe I can sleep now.? Hope you like.

well I am planning on adding some fertilizer tomorrow. I have mixed up some 5-1-1 fish emulsion and it is sitting. I will fertilize tomorrow with it because they are getting pretty dry and some of the leaves are starting to yellow a little bit. My soil has some hydrated lime in it so will this be all that I need for veg or am I going to need some extra primary/secondary nutrients? Anyone?

Well I think i have answered my own question about nutes did some research and asked around. Anyways i had to go get supplies yesterday and picked up a thermometer/hygrometer and some measuring cups. Just as I suspected my temps and humidity are all out of wack because colorado just sucks like that but what can you do?The temps are in the low to mid 80s at the canopy level and 16% humidity. I added a cool mist humidifier and it hasn't raised the humidity or dropped the temps. The plants are still doing fine and i fertilized with a guesstimated amount of the fish emulsion as planned and they seem to be responding well. I topped one of the colombians today and will topping the rest within the week most likely. I'm tring to grow them big and branchy so that I can use up the maximum amount of space.

Heyy man. Everything's lookin GREAT!! Sorry that no-one's checkin out your journal. =( I fuckin hate when I spend time making my journal, and postin pics, and then no one even posts anything. =-/ I'm lettin ya know tho that I'll be checkin on it man. You have 1 dedicated veiwer. lol. I've heard alotta good things about cannalope. soo cant wait to see how it grows. Good Luck. Keep up the good work man!

Thanks chb. Yeah it does take a lot of time and is a little annoying when nobody responds but I've already found it be useful as I can pinpoint what days I started what day I fertilized and I can really see how they are growing by looking at the thread so it's okay. Since I don't keep notes this will be helpful for me at least. As far as the cannalope they are just baffling me. They look like straight kush plants or something but one of them is starting to look a little bit different than the others as the leaves are little longer/thinner and the jagged edges are a bit different. I'll get a pic in a few days they have already grown a couple sets of leaves since the pic. The colombians are growing better than I could have hoped especially seeing as they and the CH are 24 days old today. If the colombians turn out to be hermaphrodite I am going to be very dissapointed as this has been my first choice for a long time. The hawaiians are couple days younger and they are doing well too. my guinea pig bag seed is looking good too, some strange leaves on it for sure,I think I will FIM it.

oh yeah and since the sun went down and i had the humidifier on all day the temp has cooled down to 77 degrees so that's good. The air is so thin here it doesn't hold humidity well and it dries up and gets hot underneath HIDS very fast so the humidity is still 16%.

Pipe Dream said:

Thanks chb. Yeah it does take a lot of time and is a little annoying when nobody responds but I've already found it be useful as I can pinpoint what days I started what day I fertilized and I can really see how they are growing by looking at the thread so it's okay. Since I don't keep notes this will be helpful for me at least. As far as the cannalope they are just baffling me. They look like straight kush plants or something but one of them is starting to look a little bit different than the others as the leaves are little longer/thinner and the jagged edges are a bit different. I'll get a pic in a few days they have already grown a couple sets of leaves since the pic. The colombians are growing better than I could have hoped especially seeing as they and the CH are 24 days old today. If the colombians turn out to be hermaphrodite I am going to be very dissapointed as this has been my first choice for a long time. The hawaiians are couple days younger and they are doing well too. my guinea pig bag seed is looking good too, some strange leaves on it for sure,I think I will FIM it.

oh yeah and since the sun went down and i had the humidifier on all day the temp has cooled down to 77 degrees so that's good. The air is so thin here it doesn't hold humidity well and it dries up and gets hot underneath HIDS very fast so the humidity is still 16%.

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do you have fans venting your closet? if you do there probably suckin out all the added humidity. my RH was so low i had to do the same thing!

your going to love it after you top and fim, they get so wide, mine look like a golfball. you can suppercrop it acording to you space. use clean equip!! man if your going to stay in that closet you need to look into LED bro, its starting to be worth the cost. heat is going to be your ongoing prob in that closet. you know it already, you want lots of light but summers going to kill you. you could stay with those temps with co2 no prob but im guessing your venting to much for co2 to be an option

welcome sancho. Glad to see you here as i think you could help a lot with my TREES. Anyways yes I do have air venting and I think that's the problem also but i don't want the air too hot like all my other closet grows have been. I am going to install some new humidifiers with some aquarium tubing next to the plants and hopefully they will help raise the humidity. I have also been a little afraid of having the humidifier getting too close to the bulb and possibly exploding so I have the humidifier pretty much blowing near the plants inbetween the table and fan so the cool breeze blows on them. Maybe tomorrow I will moniter it while turning the exhaust off and see what happens to the humidity and temps.

It's looking good PD!

They look really healthy.

Looking at your closet setup really makes me want to move my grow to a vacant bedroom.

Pipe Dream said:

welcome sancho. Glad to see you here as i think you could help a lot with my TREES. Anyways yes I do have air venting and I think that's the problem also but i don't want the air too hot like all my other closet grows have been. I am going to install some new humidifiers with some aquarium tubing next to the plants and hopefully they will help raise the humidity. I have also been a little afraid of having the humidifier getting too close to the bulb and possibly exploding so I have the humidifier pretty much blowing near the plants inbetween the table and fan so the cool breeze blows on them. Maybe tomorrow I will moniter it while turning the exhaust off and see what happens to the humidity and temps.

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man i know the battle your having all to well, I started my grow with 2 cool mists humidifiers and now i just orderd a dehumidifier!! your always going to be fighting that HID heat in the closet, I spent 400 on a led from hydogrow, im not saying its the way but I do know Ill use led over HPS If i was in a closet again.

Pipe Dream said:

welcome sancho. Glad to see you here as i think you could help a lot with my TREES. Anyways yes I do have air venting and I think that's the problem also but i don't want the air too hot like all my other closet grows have been. I am going to install some new humidifiers with some aquarium tubing next to the plants and hopefully they will help raise the humidity. I have also been a little afraid of having the humidifier getting too close to the bulb and possibly exploding so I have the humidifier pretty much blowing near the plants inbetween the table and fan so the cool breeze blows on them. Maybe tomorrow I will moniter it while turning the exhaust off and see what happens to the humidity and temps.

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hey PD, take a look at dutch masters reverse if your suspect to hermies.

hey man.. Glad to see a couple more people starting postin on here now too. But i completely agree with you about making the journal fo yourself.. I wrote that in my journal.. cuz for a while, no one was posting in it. But now I got a few loyal followers who check it out every couple days. =) Including you.

But yeaaa. I need to get a humidifier as well. My humidity is only around like 15%. I've been spraying my plant A LOT lately! Like, some days, when I'm home for most of the days.. I probably spray it like 10 times.. maybe more. And she LOVES it! It's crazy how fast she drinks the water. I'll spray her.. and within minutes.. she's almost completely dry.

Another idea to raise the humidity.. maybe get a bowl or a couple cup of water, and just put them next to your plants. If it gets that hott.. then the water should evaporate pretty quickly!

And I know what you mean about plants looking different that you thought they woul. My plant is White Widow.. which (as far as I knew) predominately Sativa... but if you look at my girl.. she's short and VERY bushy. I never topped/FIM'ed her either. She just grew like that. I know you have have 5 of the same strain, and they will have diffrent phenotypes... but still.. lol.

Well good luck! Glad to see more people on here! Maybe me postin on here helped.. lol. juuuuust kidding.

** OO yea. Gotta ask. Your avatar pic.. what is that?? Is that a pic u just found? or is that sumthin grew...?? just curious. Looks fucking BOMB!

yeah the pic in my avatar is just a random pic i found-I love colorful plants. Anyways, yeah I tried having some water to evaporate but didn't do anything. I really think it's the high elevation here the air just doesn't hold moisture it can get pretty dry here. Sancho the reason I have been worried about hermies is because I seen a grow of the WOS seeds that all had hermies and the afgan kush I gave my friend hermied also so that's why I planted the hawaiin as backup.

As I said all the plants seemed to do fine with the fertilizer with the exception of the colombians. I'm thinking they are going to be fussy. the day before yesterday I noticed some of the leaves were beginning to turn yellow/brown at the tips. Yesterday it was worse and both the colombians had it showing but today it seems like it's not so bad. Hopefully you can see from the pics like I said it seemed worse yesterday I gave them a good rinse and added just a little water around the stem.

in the first pic is the worst leaf
in the second pic there is some more leaf tip burning and you can see how they are curling a little bit
the third pic is the plant from a farther distance
the fourth pic is the other colombian which has some of the same leaf tips but this one is much more yellow near the top notice they were both topped yesterday
the fifth pic is the bag seed that I tried to fim last night I see some heat stress
the 6th pic is the hawaain
and the 7th pic is the Colombian, hawaain and the CANNOLOPE HAZE look at it!

So I was planning on giving them a dose of the FF big bloom which is really low in primary nutes and is supposed to be safe to use with every watering. Any thoughts?

Pipe Dream said:

yeah the pic in my avatar is just a random pic i found-I love colorful plants. Anyways, yeah I tried having some water to evaporate but didn't do anything. I really think it's the high elevation here the air just doesn't hold moisture it can get pretty dry here. Sancho the reason I have been worried about hermies is because I seen a grow of the WOS seeds that all had hermies and the afgan kush I gave my friend hermied also so that's why I planted the hawaiin as backup.

As I said all the plants seemed to do fine with the fertilizer with the exception of the colombians. I'm thinking they are going to be fussy. the day before yesterday I noticed some of the leaves were beginning to turn yellow/brown at the tips. Yesterday it was worse and both the colombians had it showing but today it seems like it's not so bad. Hopefully you can see from the pics like I said it seemed worse yesterday I gave them a good rinse and added just a little water around the stem.

in the first pic is the worst leaf
in the second pic there is some more leaf tip burning and you can see how they are curling a little bit
the third pic is the plant from a farther distance
the fourth pic is the other colombian which has some of the same leaf tips but this one is much more yellow near the top notice they were both topped yesterday
the fifth pic is the bag seed that I tried to fim last night I see some heat stress
the 6th pic is the hawaain
and the 7th pic is the Colombian, hawaain and the CANNOLOPE HAZE look at it!

So I was planning on giving them a dose of the FF big bloom which is really low in primary nutes and is supposed to be safe to use with every watering. Any thoughts?

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lookin good pipe! Im to new to give much advice pipe but those look real good, i dont think that leaf edge nute burn is bad at all, alot of people that know say to keep using veg nuts for the first 2 or 3 wks, they need it to give you lots of bud sites and keep em green and not yellow to early in flower, my RH was very low as well 15-20 sometimes, I think with healthy roots youll be fine, just dont over feed and over/under water! pipe do you have any acsess to that cold mtn air bro? can you take advantage of the weather and get some cold air into that hot closet?

I have the bedroom window all shut off for light light leaks, and to insulate it so that i don't have hot weed air coming from my window. Even though it's a legal med garden with all the bs going down in CO I don't want any unwanted attention. I can pull air in from the outside from the other room but during the day it's warm. if you never been here you have to know that the weather is unpredictable. It could snow and be sunny. It could be a blizzard and it's all gone by the next day. It could stay dry for months at a time and sometimes it will snow for months on end. I remember last july almost june and it was snowing in the mountains. So anyway it's just as warm outside as it is inside. this is my first grow during the early spring so that's good. Usually It would be summer and be in the 90s and by midday it was just rediculous but with the sun setting early and my light on most of the night I think I'm allright. Also they are getting pretty big and very soon I will drop them down lower where the temp is a lot more tolerable in the low 80s at the highest and increase their humidity too.

I am planning on giving the dose of FF big bloom tomorrow and than watering with both the fish emulsion and the big bloom the following water and using the bb for every watering after that. I'm planning on letting them get about 1.5' tall and flowering them in hopes that I can keep them at about 3-4 feet.

Pipe Dream said:

I have the bedroom window all shut off for light light leaks, and to insulate it so that i don't have hot weed air coming from my window. Even though it's a legal med garden with all the bs going down in CO I don't want any unwanted attention. I can pull air in from the outside from the other room but during the day it's warm. if you never been here you have to know that the weather is unpredictable. It could snow and be sunny. It could be a blizzard and it's all gone by the next day. It could stay dry for months at a time and sometimes it will snow for months on end. I remember last july almost june and it was snowing in the mountains. So anyway it's just as warm outside as it is inside. this is my first grow during the early spring so that's good. Usually It would be summer and be in the 90s and by midday it was just rediculous but with the sun setting early and my light on most of the night I think I'm allright. Also they are getting pretty big and very soon I will drop them down lower where the temp is a lot more tolerable in the low 80s at the highest and increase their humidity too.

I am planning on giving the dose of FF big bloom tomorrow and than watering with both the fish emulsion and the big bloom the following water and using the bb for every watering after that. I'm planning on letting them get about 1.5' tall and flowering them in hopes that I can keep them at about 3-4 feet.

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sounds like kemmer WY,LOL Ive worked high country CO before around glenwood springs, cold in the morning and hot during the day!

looking good man. just as sancho said... the nute burn does not look bad at all! Lemme tell you... it's almost IMPOSSIBLE to have a grow that goes from start to finish with any type of problem.. mostly nute burn... some plants (even the same strains) are just really touchy when it comes to nutes.. other absorb it better.. other NEED it to survive.. soo it hard to get it right the first time.. but like I said. .you got nothin to worry about.

The plants look really really green!! Thats deff a good sign your plants are healthy!! I do see one thing tho.. it's not really that bad tho.. but ur plants look a little droopy. What are the temps like in there?? and do you have any Co2 runnin in there? and how often do you water?? Those are some of the main reason for "droopage" lol. not sure if thats a word or not.but if its too hott.. your plants will droop a little.. if you OVER-water them.. they will droop.. and.. (I found this out the hard way) if you have too much Co2 and not enough ventilation.... your plants will droop.. and die.. very quickly!! like.. overnight!

I doubt it's Co2 tho.. it mighta just been the heat or over-watering.. actually.. now that I thin of it.. underwatering can eventually lead to "droopage" too.. =-/ Hate how that works tho.. if your plants drooping.. you dont know wether its too much water or too little.. and soo u dont know wether to add more water.. or cut back.. lol

But yeaa.. just a thought. other than the little drooping they look amazing. your doing an excellent job!