First grow problems

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ProfoundMistakes

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Also there hasn't been any new growth since day 5 I think. Once again any help is appreciated and whatnot.

The pictures in order
1: day 11
2: day 11
3: day 9
4: day 2
 
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keep it real.

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looks good shes growing roots not leaves she needs good roots support alot of leaves, also stop watering her shes way wet what size pot? i would not water for a long time! over a week.
 
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imchucky666

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You have 4 different backgrounds, and 4 different angles so I can't tell for sure, but it sure appears like you need more light and closer.
Be patient, and give us more details, temp, watering, light.
Third pic looks dry, last pic looks soaked, and it appears you have already transplanted from the first pic.
 
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ProfoundMistakes

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keep it real. said:
looks good shes growing roots not leaves she needs good roots support alot of leaves, also stop watering her shes way wet what size pot? i would not water for a long time! over a week.
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After day six it was knocked over so I transfered into a 9(width) x 7(hight) only thing that was available. I know it's too big. I was told that since it is so big I'd have to water fairly frequently, as the root system doesn't reach far down the pot.

imchucky666 said:
You have 4 different backgrounds, and 4 different angles so I can't tell for sure, but it sure appears like you need more light and closer.
Be patient, and give us more details, temp, watering, light.
Third pic looks dry, last pic looks soaked, and it appears you have already transplanted from the first pic.
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Yeah sorry about the lack of consistency with the photos. I've been using 3 x 23 watt cfl 5000 kelvin within 2 inches. Temperature stays between 72 and 78. As for watering i've been waiting until the top inch or so is dry.

Recently I have noticed the upper leaves have started to yellow.



While the lower leaves have done this. Not sure how to describe it. curling down and dying tips.



Thanks in advance for any advice.
~ ProfoundMistakes
 
mrbotanical

mrbotanical

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ProfoundMistakes said:
Hello everyone,

First time poster long time lurker. I recently started my first grow. Everything was going well the first few days. Now the stem/stalk has turned a purplish color and the leaves are browning at the edges. This might be an obvious problem to you experienced growers but alas I am a noob. Any help is greatly appreciated.


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It looks stunted. Red/purple stems or petioles can be a sign of phosphorus deficiency, but there should be enough nutrition in the grow medium to see the plant through its first few weeks of veg. growth and maybe into flowering without the need for a top-up of nutrients.
 
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mrbotanical

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keep it real. said:
looks good shes growing roots not leaves she needs good roots support alot of leaves, also stop watering her shes way wet what size pot? i would not water for a long time! over a week.
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You should NEVER let the grow medium dry out, ever (over a week?) always keep it moist, and remember to water until you get a bit of run off, to make sure that every part of the medium is sufficiently hydrated. When you use chemical fertilizers & as many do, use them incorrectly, you get a build up of salts in the grow medium, this build up reaches a point where the levels throw the pH out and cause one or more nutrients to be locked out, and in extreme cases this will lead to multi nutrient blockage. If you have been over-feeding & are suffering from these problems, letting the soil/substrate dry out between watering exacerbates this problem.
 
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ProfoundMistakes

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Nothing definitive I have this post going on three sites. I've heard everything ph over/under watering any nute deficiency rh/temp fluctuations under lighting. Plenty of opinion but no consensus unfortunately.
 
mrbotanical

mrbotanical

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ProfoundMistakes said:
Nothing definitive I have this post going on three sites. I've heard everything ph over/under watering any nute deficiency rh/temp fluctuations under lighting. Plenty of opinion but no consensus unfortunately.
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Try backing off on the quantity and/or frequency of your feedings, don't fertilize a healthy plant that doesn't need it or you will cause problems. Over-dosing the plant with nutrients is more common than you might think & a LOT if not most of the problems growers face arise from this self inflicted over-use. Don't make things more complicated than they are; water often & thoroughly and feed it when she needs it, not when a bottle label or a schedule says so.
 
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mrbotanical said:
Try backing off on the quantity and/or frequency of your feedings, don't fertilize a healthy plant that doesn't need it or you will cause problems. Over-dosing the plant with nutrients is more common than you might think & a LOT if not most of the problems growers face arise from this self inflicted over-use. Don't make things more complicated than they are; water often & thoroughly and feed it when she needs it, not when a bottle label or a schedule says so.
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+rep for sane logical proven advice. Overwatering is the #1 cause of death in plants cared for by man with nutrient overdosing close behind in pot growing. Feed, water, water. Never give a full strength feeding if you are are not an experienced grower who can accurately determine that need. Start at 3-4 weeks of plant age. Never sooner. 1/4 strength nutes to start. Let the medium dry well between waterings and feedings and don't get dicked by a calender. Feed, water, water. Repeat at maybe 1/2 strength. By then it will be time to flower and feed the last grow feed just before flipping. This will give the plant a feed and a chance to change its chemistry from photo changes and be ready to take a 1/4 strength bloom feeding.
 
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mrbotanical

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hotrodharley said:
+rep for sane logical proven advice. Overwatering is the #1 cause of death in plants cared for by man with nutrient overdosing close behind in pot growing. Feed, water, water. Never give a full strength feeding if you are are not an experienced grower who can accurately determine that need. Start at 3-4 weeks of plant age. Never sooner. 1/4 strength nutes to start. Let the medium dry well between waterings and feedings and don't get dicked by a calender. Feed, water, water. Repeat at maybe 1/2 strength. By then it will be time to flower and feed the last grow feed just before flipping. This will give the plant a feed and a chance to change its chemistry from photo changes and be ready to take a 1/4 strength bloom feeding.
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Thanks hotrod, we park our cars in the same garage.
 
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ProfoundMistakes

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mrbotanical said:
Correct action friend. What soil mix are you using? Any additives?
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I'm using MG Organic for this bag seed test grow. I was thinking of using a seedling mix then transplanting to FF. Anyone have any advice on nute brands for feeding during the vegetative stage? Update: Day 20 still some yellowing but it does look better.
Also is this normal?
As always thanks for any help, advice, opinion, or ranting in advance.
 
mrbotanical

mrbotanical

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ProfoundMistakes said:
I'm using MG Organic for this bag seed test grow. I was thinking of using a seedling mix then transplanting to FF. Anyone have any advice on nute brands for feeding during the vegetative stage? Update: Day 20 still some yellowing but it does look better.
Also is this normal?
As always thanks for any help, advice, opinion, or ranting in advance.
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They look good my friend, they look like they've really picked-up. As for what "brand" of nutrients - Don't get sucked in to believe what many if not most do; A healthy, vigorous, good yielding plant does not originate from a bottle, no matter what its claims & no matter how much you pay for it, in fact most of the problems on this forum could be attributed to self-inflicted over zealous use of these "super foods" and "bloom boosters" and the fact that people are obsessed with feeding healthy plants that don't need it. Contrary to popular belief, a good soil/compost will nearly ALWAYS have enough nutrients to see the plant through veg. growth and into flower without the need for fertilization, but I bet most of those who will disagree with that have never even tried to grow without over-dosing their plants with their expensive bottles of bullshit, so they can't really say. Bottom pic. doesn't look too healthy, might be a no go'er, wait and see what it does.
 
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iratika

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like the thread and the sound advice given by the more experienced members. it literally was the first time i have read someone talking about how little they rely on nute additives for growth. genetics of the plant will make or break how well it does in the end, but that is not something a fellow grower can always afford to worry about in most cases. but anyway that just being said i will definitely employ a less is more attitude with my nute scheduling. thanks
 
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