First grow, strain decision help

TheNeedle

Member
Hi there,

I've been doing a massive amount of reading on the forums and I've been interested in growing for a while now.

So, I'm taking abit of initiative and I'm gonna try this, I've seen quite a few cfl rubbermaid stealth setups and I'd like to do the same for my first grow and depending on how that turns out, go from there on.

So everything is dandy and simple for me uptil the point where I have to decide, which strain should i go for..

Naturally, I'm looking for something that'd be a convenient size for the rubbermaid container.

Love this forum, great people, great information. Thanks in advance :peace:
 

haze2

Well-Known Member
Try some Jillybean from Subcool, well his sidekick MzJill thus the JILLYBEAN lol!! Its a short squat stocky plant, huge yields and super potent, very fruity strain and almost no trim work just ordered 20 of them from bidzbay. Its a 60 40 sativa indica. Supposed to be a very hysterical, laughing type smoke. 10 pack of seeds for 55$ us and 5$ for shipping. Good luck
 

Hobbes

Well-Known Member
Ditto what Haze said. You can also buy 5 seeds for 25 BP.

Here's a pick of a Big Laughing I'm growing now - it has a consistent stretch of 50% for me. Veg to 16" and get a 24" plant almost every time.



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http://www.cannaseur.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=9&Itemid=36&vmcchk=1&Itemid=36

http://www.drgreenthumb.com/cannabis_seeds_GreenthumbSeedsEntrance.htm

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Needle you could also look at cloning or doing a SCROG and grow any strain you want. Then you could think about choosing for effect and flowering period instead of size.


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bongsmilie
 

IgrowUgrow

Well-Known Member
Pride of Amsterdamn good choice. Great smoke.
Pride of Amstredam Marijuana Seeds 55.00 EUR
A strong marijuana plant with big buds and loads of thc crystals. It is a cross between a powerful White Widow variety and our Northern Light x Big Bud. This makes the mokum cannabis seeds plant strong and very potent. It gives a great skunky smell when growing. Its a powerful inbred 7 plus years Stabilized hybrid. Big fat buds red goldish green at harvest.
Sativa/ Indica: 30%/ 70%
Flowering Period: 9-10 weeks
Height: NA
Yields: 500gr
 

TheNeedle

Member
Try some Jillybean from Subcool, well his sidekick MzJill thus the JILLYBEAN lol!! Its a short squat stocky plant, huge yields and super potent, very fruity strain and almost no trim work just ordered 20 of them from bidzbay. Its a 60 40 sativa indica. Supposed to be a very hysterical, laughing type smoke. 10 pack of seeds for 55$ us and 5$ for shipping. Good luck
Thanks alot, I'll give it a go because It sounds exactly like what would be good for the rubbermaid setup and just out of curiosity, do you think it'll turn grow good under CFL's ? I would like to use them for sure on my first grow, wanna just do something cheap to learn, but hopefully still have good results of course.

As for the other two, thanks for the suggestions IgrowUGrow and Hobbes, I see that the plants that you guys suggested weren't short, well you didn't mention it, Can you just cut a plant to keep it at a certain height ;s? I wouldn't know.

Thanks guys, I'll get on that research right away.
 

haze2

Well-Known Member
You can do diff height mantanence techs like fiming topping or lsting and lots of other things but, topping is the most easy just snip the plant at any height to slow down upward growth but you have to cut the main stalk not a shoot. Lst by tying down the stalk and all the shoots to get light into the mid of the plant and to give more colas and also for height. Yes you can manage height.
 

TheNeedle

Member
You can do diff height mantanence techs like fiming topping or lsting and lots of other things but, topping is the most easy just snip the plant at any height to slow down upward growth but you have to cut the main stalk not a shoot. Lst by tying down the stalk and all the shoots to get light into the mid of the plant and to give more colas and also for height. Yes you can manage height.

Oh okay, that's fantastic, I still have quite alot of reading to do before I even become a decent begginer lol :) Thanks alot though, help is massively appreciated :)
 

TheNeedle

Member
Ditto what Haze said. You can also buy 5 seeds for 25 BP.

Here's a pick of a Big Laughing I'm growing now - it has a consistent stretch of 50% for me. Veg to 16" and get a 24" plant almost every time.



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http://www.cannaseur.com/index.php?option=com_virtuemart&page=shop.browse&category_id=9&Itemid=36&vmcchk=1&Itemid=36

http://www.drgreenthumb.com/cannabis_seeds_GreenthumbSeedsEntrance.htm

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Needle you could also look at cloning or doing a SCROG and grow any strain you want. Then you could think about choosing for effect and flowering period instead of size.


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bongsmilie
I completely skipped this post, I'm sorry!

I'll look those up right away :) I'm currently obsessed with information lol.

Thank you
 

Brick Top

New Member
Jilly Bean sells for $102.08 for 10 regular beans (not feminized) at Attitude Seeds. If I read your post correctly this will be your first grow. My opinion is until you get some experience under your belt try picking a few different less expensive strains so if like so many new growers you experience problems, some possibly major, you are not out a ton of bucks … that is unless you have money to burn and just do not care if you waste that amount of money.
 
You can go to http://en.seedfinder.eu/ and find information on about 1,700 strains. You can go to strain database and then to cup winners and you can find a number of past cup winners that are no longer the flavor of the month and many can be found for very decent prices at places like Attitude Seeds.
 
You can also go with any number of different knockoffs, like all the strains that are called White Widow since the original White Widow was renamed Black Widow when Shantibaba sold out his portion of Greenhouse Seeds and took his genetics with him and opened Mr. Nice Seedbank and has worked in collaboration with Howard Marks and another experienced breeder whose name eludes me at the moment ever since.
 
Between past cup winners that are still every bit as good/potent as the day they won a cup but are no longer in fashion and are no longer the flavor of the month and some decent to fairly high quality knockoffs you can find quality beans for far less than Jilly Bean will cost you. Later when you have a good deal of experience to rely on then by all means pay whatever you have to, to get what you would really like to grow but it might be wise to take a different route to begin with and lessen your chances of a highly disappointing and rather costly bad experience.
 
One thing to keep in mind about cup winners, other than they have become questionable as to if they really deserve to win or not due to bribing judges etc. it is not as if every year the new winner has to be or is any better or even as good as the winner the year before. Cup winners are like academy award winners in that each year one has to win regardless of if it is not as good as last years winner. For some reason many people tend to believe that each and every year there is a big step forward made in cup winners but that is not always the case. They just happen to be the best that were entered that year, or someone bribed a few judges so they could win and gain a name for themselves and also gain a larger market share.
 
But that is just my opinion.
 

Hobbes

Well-Known Member
Brick Top makes some good points but, with due respect to Brick Top and his pig farm, I feel that seeds are the least expensive part of your grow and you should pick the strains that you really want to grow.

That being said, there are many great inexpensive strains. Jillybean seeds can be had for $40 USD for 5 at Cannaseur (link above). White Widow, Northern Lights, Afgani #1, Skunk #1, Cheese, ... can all be gotten dirt cheap at Attitude. You could pick any of Serious Seeds or TGA (Subcool) strains and have great bud. AK47, White Russian, Chronic, Bubblegum, Kali Mist.

Take a look at Bubblegum - Serious is Sativa, TH is indica. It's an amazing treat, phenominal taste, good yield, 9 weeks, easy to grow, euphoric high.

http://www.cannabis-seeds-bank.co.uk/

I don't like fem seeds, bad experiences with hermieing. Don't worry about getting only 5 seeds instead of 10: you can have near 100% germination rate with a simple germing routine and learn cloning; and you can pick a second strain to try with the money you saved.

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bongsmilie
 

klmmicro

Well-Known Member
Afghan #1 is a bullet proof strain to learn on. It is heat tolerant, survives watering SNAFU's well and does not require any elaborate feeding schemes. The output is decent with a strong high.

I keep a clone of a good strain of it going all the time in my garden. I think it is C6 now.

This is from a grow last year. Yield from the two was almost 4 oz dry.

 

TheNeedle

Member
-Brick & Hobbes: Thanks, I still didn't buy the jillybean seeds for that reason exactly, I thought that i should grow something more cheap, considering its my first time. I've been looking at northern lights, It would cost 40$ with shipping, which sounds pretty fair.

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klmmicro: That picture looks wonderful, congratz on the great grow. The fact that its resistant to mistakes I could end up making makes that one attractive decision, I'll look around :3

-Ghopzz: Thanks for the suggestion :) I'll look around.


Thanks for the input guys, its helping lots! Just need to make a decision one of these days bongsmiliebongsmiliebongsmilie haha


P.s I'm having a really hard time finding what is SOG and SCROG :( Anyone have a link to a thread of some sort, so that I could read about it. It'd be greatly appreciated.
and one more question if I may. If I made some sort of homemade drip system that would constant drip on the plants would that be good or bad? Something that would drip pretty slow, just a random idea... Curiousity :)

Thanks again!
 

Hobbes

Well-Known Member
"one more question if I may. If I made some sort of homemade drip system that would constant drip on the plants would that be good or bad? Something that would drip pretty slow,"

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A drip system in hydroponics operates in much the same way a drip irrigation system does for a soil garden. Water is pumped through tubing and regulated so that water drips, rather than runs, in a steady stream. In a hydroponics system, however, you can recover the water, reducing the amount necessary to feed your plants.

You can use a drip system in your hydroponics Dutch bucket system. The water source will be your reservoir within the bucket and the water will be recovered after it drips over the plant roots.

Difficulty: Moderately Easy

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Things You'll Need:


Garden pump 1/4-inch tubing Back-flow preventer Pressure regulator Emitter Timer

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Step 1

Prepare your Dutch bucket. Cut a 1-inch hole to one side of the lid of a 5-gallon bucket. Cut a 3-inch hole in the center of the lid for your net pot. Fill the bucket two-thirds full with nutrient rich water.

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Step 2

Put a garden pump in the bottom of the bucket and run the cord out of the 1-inch hole. Attach a length of 1/4-inch tubing measuring 1 1/2 feet in length to the pump and run the other end through the 1-inch hole as well.

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Step 3

Attach the back-flow preventer to the tubing. Attach the pressure regulator to the back-flow preventer. You will need a back-flow preventer and a pressure regulator that fit to 1/4-inch tubing, not those that are made for use with a garden hose.

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Step 4

Attach a 10-inch length of 1/4-inch tubing to the pressure regulator. Connect the emitter to the end of the tubing.

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Step 5

Place your net pot with a seedling into the 3-inch hole in the lid of the bucket.

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Step 6

Bring the end of the tubing with the emitter up to the net pot. Stake the tubing with a drip system stake so that the water dripping from the emitter will drip into the net pot.

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Step 7

Plug the cord of the pump into a timer and plug the timer into an outlet. Set the timer so the drip system activates for a length of time and frequency appropriate to your regional climate. For example, in the lower deserts of Arizona, you might set the timer to activate the system four times a day, allowing it to drip for one hour each session. The water will drip over the net pot and over the plant roots, back into the bucket. Renew your nutrients every two to three weeks."


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bongsmilie
 
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