first grow the doctor by green house seeds:L help needed

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thestonerlad

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hey everyone this is a new grow ive been doing and im 5 weeks into flowering atm but heres some of the stats
soils a mix of compost/ perlite / vercuimlite (sorry for any misspellings in this now ) at a third each.
after 3 weeks into veg had to do a flush as i had a ph lockout. i dont have a tester anymore but the water i use is tap water setlled for a day and this powder that keeps the ph at 5.5-6.5. i fimed the top of of the plant at like 2 weeks or so it was inbtween the 4th/5th node but the main stem didnt split as i thought it would the lower stems just grew up bigge. now i have a problem not sure but all the other leaves are kinda drooping i dont think its over watering because whenever i water i wait until the top is dry and shes light to lift. ill get some photosIMG_8214.JPG this ones the main stemIMG_8215.JPG IMG_8217.JPG IMG_8218.JPG these are the side stems and branches also you can see the discolour IMG_8211.JPGthere is alot of yellow dying leaves fan leaves and the small ones but its the droop im worried about all the leaves are drooping just that wee bit .
the lights are 2x 23w 6400k cfls and a single 25w 2700k cfl and ontop shining over it all is a 300w led grow panel i also have a fan in the room directly on the midlle steam not close but moving the air around tho so any help ? also like first time putting stuff up plz dont hate if ive put it in the wrong place or messed somthing up
 
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She looks in very bad shape. I hope you figure it out. I've always been curious about this strain so I'm subbed. Also, you think you might be watering a tad too much? What nutes are you using? are you using nutes?
 
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thestonerlad

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ive been using 1ml of this flowering nutients the npk is 1-3-3 so its good
ive read that the leaves turn yellow halfway though the flowering period anyway ?
should i flush do you think ? also not really i only water whenever she needs it like even if that means waiting a few days but the perlite has kept the soil airy too so its not staying in the soil too long either
 
polishpollack

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1-3-3 really isn't enough nitrogen. I'd try a dose of fert that has some more nitrogen to it. what fert are you using? what is in the fert? how often do you feed it? what's the temp in the space? your grow space is pretty small, do you have a fan there? I see you have one for exhaust, but this may not be enough. another one pushing air in would be good.
 
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The temps are good cause I've two exhaust fans up above and when the doors closed I can feel the pull of air though the intake hole .i used ferts of 6-3-6 which gave it plenty of nitrogen though the vegging state.
 
polishpollack

polishpollack

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5 weeks into flowering, pretty long. that generalized yellowing could be sign that it's finishing but it hasn't produced much in the way of flowers. this plant will die after many weeks of flowering. not really sure what's going on but my guess is that it had a poor veg cycle, less than optimal conditions, and simply failed to produce. usually you can grow successfully for a 90 day period, which is 12 weeks. so if you have 7 weeks veg, then 5 weeks flower, like what you've done so far, you'd should have a pretty good plant. but that didn't happen here. looks like a weak grow. so how long did you veg? also, how do you handle watering? can't remember if you wrote about this issue.
 
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thestonerlad

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To be specific it's 31 days into flowering and I had jst over 38 days begging ?whats actually wrong tho ? The buds seem to be coming though ok ? What you mean poor conditions ? And the yellowing isn't everywhere it's jst the lower fan leaves and decent few side leves from stems ? It's always been bring and bushy and the leaves were always upright ?heres one of her during vegging ? I know when I fimmed her she slowed down to grow from that like.image.jpg
 
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polishpollack

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poor condition meaning less than optimal lighting, fairly stagnant air, maybe not a large enough pot to support more growth. that kind of lighting is pretty to grow plants. it works but don't expect a large plant. you might have genetics that are engineered to finish in a short time period, like 60 days or less. looking like it's finishing naturally but didn't have the best conditions and therefore, didn't grow much, isn't producing much in flower. sodium lighting is probably better for flowering. indoor growing doesn't produce large plants due to the weak lighting no matter which bulb you choose. it's not like using the sun.
 
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thestonerlad

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There's atleast 30 days left on the grow ? It says on the website 66 days is best for crystal production ? I had a fan inside to make sure there was no stagnant air :o
 
polishpollack

polishpollack

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You're at 69-70 days now according to an above post. Is 66 days intended for the entire lifespan, or just flowering? Probably the entire span. This plant never really did well. It okay but not fantastic, which is what happens with weak lighting.
 
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thestonerlad

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When I mean 66 days that's for the flowering period ? It definatly says 60-66 days flowering I was gona cut her down at 62
 
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jen@dank2u

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thestonerlad said:
hey everyone this is a new grow ive been doing and im 5 weeks into flowering atm but heres some of the stats
soils a mix of compost/ perlite / vercuimlite (sorry for any misspellings in this now ) at a third each.
after 3 weeks into veg had to do a flush as i had a ph lockout. i dont have a tester anymore but the water i use is tap water setlled for a day and this powder that keeps the ph at 5.5-6.5. i fimed the top of of the plant at like 2 weeks or so it was inbtween the 4th/5th node but the main stem didnt split as i thought it would the lower stems just grew up bigge. now i have a problem not sure but all the other leaves are kinda drooping i dont think its over watering because whenever i water i wait until the top is dry and shes light to lift. ill get some photosView attachment 3431726 this ones the main stemView attachment 3431727 View attachment 3431730 View attachment 3431729 these are the side stems and branches also you can see the discolour View attachment 3431728there is alot of yellow dying leaves fan leaves and the small ones but its the droop im worried about all the leaves are drooping just that wee bit .
the lights are 2x 23w 6400k cfls and a single 25w 2700k cfl and ontop shining over it all is a 300w led grow panel i also have a fan in the room directly on the midlle steam not close but moving the air around tho so any help ? also like first time putting stuff up plz dont hate if ive put it in the wrong place or messed somthing up
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Look in to magnesium deficiencies due to pH being too low you have developed a magnesium deficiency . If ph is too low the roots can not uptake magnesium. Flush plant with and check the ph in the run off cause if you check it before feeding then something in the grow medium is changing ph. Well that's the coloration problem. The stripes on the leaves. The heavy drooping leaves don't know. But the burn spots with yellowing leaves is possibly calcium . Don't worry just make sure you ph every time some plants are super sensitive while others can take anything. Pm
 
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jen@dank2u

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thestonerlad said:
hey everyone this is a new grow ive been doing and im 5 weeks into flowering atm but heres some of the stats
soils a mix of compost/ perlite / vercuimlite (sorry for any misspellings in this now ) at a third each.
after 3 weeks into veg had to do a flush as i had a ph lockout. i dont have a tester anymore but the water i use is tap water setlled for a day and this powder that keeps the ph at 5.5-6.5. i fimed the top of of the plant at like 2 weeks or so it was inbtween the 4th/5th node but the main stem didnt split as i thought it would the lower stems just grew up bigge. now i have a problem not sure but all the other leaves are kinda drooping i dont think its over watering because whenever i water i wait until the top is dry and shes light to lift. ill get some photosView attachment 3431726 this ones the main stemView attachment 3431727 View attachment 3431730 View attachment 3431729 these are the side stems and branches also you can see the discolour View attachment 3431728there is alot of yellow dying leaves fan leaves and the small ones but its the droop im worried about all the leaves are drooping just that wee bit .
the lights are 2x 23w 6400k cfls and a single 25w 2700k cfl and ontop shining over it all is a 300w led grow panel i also have a fan in the room directly on the midlle steam not close but moving the air around tho so any help ? also like first time putting stuff up plz dont hate if ive put it in the wrong place or messed somthing up
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The droop!?!? How far from the light is the plant? How many extra lights are you using looks like you have more than 1. They look hot if you don't over water then that maybe why they droop too hot from lights take away 1 of the extra and add a fan
 
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jen@dank2u

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thestonerlad said:
hey everyone this is a new grow ive been doing and im 5 weeks into flowering atm but heres some of the stats
soils a mix of compost/ perlite / vercuimlite (sorry for any misspellings in this now ) at a third each.
after 3 weeks into veg had to do a flush as i had a ph lockout. i dont have a tester anymore but the water i use is tap water setlled for a day and this powder that keeps the ph at 5.5-6.5. i fimed the top of of the plant at like 2 weeks or so it was inbtween the 4th/5th node but the main stem didnt split as i thought it would the lower stems just grew up bigge. now i have a problem not sure but all the other leaves are kinda drooping i dont think its over watering because whenever i water i wait until the top is dry and shes light to lift. ill get some photosView attachment 3431726 this ones the main stemView attachment 3431727 View attachment 3431730 View attachment 3431729 these are the side stems and branches also you can see the discolour View attachment 3431728there is alot of yellow dying leaves fan leaves and the small ones but its the droop im worried about all the leaves are drooping just that wee bit .
the lights are 2x 23w 6400k cfls and a single 25w 2700k cfl and ontop shining over it all is a 300w led grow panel i also have a fan in the room directly on the midlle steam not close but moving the air around tho so any help ? also like first time putting stuff up plz dont hate if ive put it in the wrong place or messed somthing up
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thestonerlad

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I got some sulphate of ammomonium to give it more nitrogen ? The heat can't be a problem I've a fan inside and two outtake fans ? And the lights are back about 5 inches from the plant ?
 
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jen@dank2u

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Yeah you are in flowering stage so nitrogen is not usually in the food for bloom. So yeah it could be pulling the nitrogen. But that's a normal thing that happens . Try lifting the light to at least 12 inches hold your hand at the top of the plant and feel if it gets warmer if it gets your hand warm then they get the plants hot. Sounds like you have good air circulation. I had a magnesium defincy due to ph. I had waited to water then got busy so the plants were pretty hungry so the bad ph level threw it all out of wack really quickly. The great thing about these plants once you figure out what it is they heal quickly. Just by correcting ph I could literally watch the change take place all the leaves were getting yellow and the lower stems and leaves would just fall off when touched. In the picture you have it looks like the leave is lighter between the veins and darker on the veins? If you want to send me a current pic. To my email. [email protected] i can look again. And don't forget to check the lights for heat.
 
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jen@dank2u

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thestonerlad said:
I took some photos of the fan leaves that have fallen off .... Could it be a nitrogen defeiency View attachment 3432670
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Lack of nitrogen won't make brown spots cal and magnesium will though nitrogen is not as important during flowering. Nitrogen is for lush green growth. Not big dense nugs. So let's hope it's just nitrogen. Plants pull nitrogen from older leaves to reuse in new growth. It's very mobile in and out of the plant. The micro nutes are not mobile so the plant can't pull from old growth to reuse
 
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