First indoor grow in 15+ years and need some lighting advice.

Rocket Soul

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As for AC flickering and going out with LED: it really depends on your power supply more than being led. Using top end meanwell hlg drivers the light just come back on when the powers back on. As long as your timers are ok nothing happens. Diy led is the eay to go
 

eyderbuddy

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I'd like some of you to be the judge on "blurples".

1 Red Diesel & 1 SFV Kush cultivated with 560 watts of "blurple" in a 2x4 with a some LST. The curing begins tomorrow so I can get a pretty close dry weight. Whaddya think?
very very nice, well done!
 

StareCase

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Looking good StareCase! On a side note, I had to chuckle as I got a lot of ribbing from friends for using those green garden twist ties to hang my outdoor grow this year. They all have nice rigs that they use for hanging, but it's hard to beat the simple twist tie!
Thanks TrailGuy. LOL!! Yup - whatever works, eh? Re-usable and extremely low cost.

I was given a limited budget to get me started so my $$$ went into the lights, fans, filters & genetics.
 

mr_c

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TheTrailGuy

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Thank you again everyone for the lighting input. The more I think about it, I'm going to go the plug n' play route. I am not at all comfortable with doing electrical work. Yes, I realize it will be more expensive, but it is what it is. So with that in mind, if you were going to go with a pre-made light, what would everyone's pick be?

Welcome back brother!!!
Thank Jim :blsmoke: I'm getting excited to once again have the ability to hunt down and keep some good mothers!
 

Jimdamick

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Hmmm, I do have some friends that like to tinker. Now you've got me thinking. Back to my initial concern/question though, would a set-up like this handle the power issues we get during the winter?
Flickering lights are not really an major issue with either type of lighting system. Total loss of power though is an issue, especially if you plan on having to use a generator to keep up.
If you think you will need generator backup, go LED, because the power draw with LED is considerably less than HID.
If you are forced to go generator to keep your microwave and heat on, a 600 watt HPS load is not a good thing, but a 300 watt LED load is tolerable.
If you have the cash, go LED, they cost more but will better suit your purpose.
Good luck
 

raggyb

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Thank you again everyone for the lighting input. The more I think about it, I'm going to go the plug n' play route. I am not at all comfortable with doing electrical work. Yes, I realize it will be more expensive, but it is what it is. So with that in mind, if you were going to go with a pre-made light, what would everyone's pick be?



Thank Jim :blsmoke: I'm getting excited to once again have the ability to hunt down and keep some good mothers!
I read a lot of quantum board this and quantum board that. Seems like a pretty safe bet. They post some impressive pics.
 

raratt

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Use an uninterruptible power supply, it will take out the spikes and allow time for starting a generator if needed.
 

TheTrailGuy

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Just a little update... after the advice received here I decided to go LED and after chatting with Erik at LED Growlights Depot I decided to opt for the GSC ES300 in a 2x4 tent. I know after reading multiple threads here that this may seem a waste of money, but I'm not electronically inclined for DIY assembly, I want the extra warranty, and there have certanly been many positive reviews of these lights. My seedlings are going strong right now and I will be sure to get a grow journal going once my seedlings are ready to clone and the flower tent is up and running. Thanks again everyone :)
 

WeedZen

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Just a little update... after the advice received here I decided to go LED and after chatting with Erik at LED Growlights Depot I decided to opt for the GSC ES300 in a 2x4 tent. I know after reading multiple threads here that this may seem a waste of money, but I'm not electronically inclined for DIY assembly, I want the extra warranty, and there have certanly been many positive reviews of these lights. My seedlings are going strong right now and I will be sure to get a grow journal going once my seedlings are ready to clone and the flower tent is up and running. Thanks again everyone :)
Looking forward to it!
 

NanoGadget

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A bit on the pricey side and they don't list what kind of diodes they use or any umol/joule efficiency data, but it looks like a decent light. Have you already finalized the order?
 

TheTrailGuy

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A bit on the pricey side and they don't list what kind of diodes they use or any umol/joule efficiency data, but it looks like a decent light. Have you already finalized the order?
Yes, the order has been completed. I posed the question to Erik about what light was the best for the space and which would be the best if I wanted to be a little budget conscious. The ES300 fell under the "if money were no concern" option. For budget options he recommended the HLG 260 and 320 DIY kits. I pared it down to the ES300 or the 320 kit. With the sale the difference was $200. For me, it was worth the difference to have a pre-assembled light and an extra 2 years of warranty. I looked high and low for specs on the light to no avail, but I also couldn't find a single negative comment about the lights anywhere, other than the price. That said, if I needed to build out a tent/room with multiple lights, I definitely would have gone with the HLG.
 

NanoGadget

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Yes, the order has been completed. I posed the question to Erik about what light was the best for the space and which would be the best if I wanted to be a little budget conscious. The ES300 fell under the "if money were no concern" option. For budget options he recommended the HLG 260 and 320 DIY kits. I pared it down to the ES300 or the 320 kit. With the sale the difference was $200. For me, it was worth the difference to have a pre-assembled light and an extra 2 years of warranty. I looked high and low for specs on the light to no avail, but I also couldn't find a single negative comment about the lights anywhere, other than the price. That said, if I needed to build out a tent/room with multiple lights, I definitely would have gone with the HLG.
The pre assembled HLG 300 is still cheaper. Not quite as good of a form factor for a 2x4 as the light you bought though.
 

TheTrailGuy

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The pre assembled HLG 300 is still cheaper. Not quite as good of a form factor for a 2x4 as the light you bought though.
I had originally been thinking a 3x3 or 4x4 tent. I ditched the 4x4 idea as I really don't have the room and I just don't need to grow that much anyway. I had only considered it to begin with as the space would allow for more variety to be grown to track down a couple of mothers faster. I had asked Erik for recommendations on 2x4 and 3x3. The HLG 300 was his pick if I went 3x3. In the end, a 2x4 tent is going to be the best fit for my space.
 

VillageAnt

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If I were you, I would buy two packs of four qb132 Quantum boards in 3500k. Two packs will cost you $200 at hlg. Then power each set of four with two LRS-350-36 drivers, for $60 for both. You can order some one inch aluminum angle to make a frame for them. The wiring is very easy it doesn't require soldering or anything like that. Just use an old computer power cable or buy one for the wall plug, and buy some 18 gauge solid core wire to run between the drivers and the boards. There's lots of help for wiring them up here. Your total cost would be around $300 to flower a 4x4. If you wanted to only flower a 3 x 3, you would only need four boards, not 8 so your cost would be half that. The good thing about those is the flickering wouldn't matter at all. Also, if you wanted dimmable drivers you can pay a little more and run four boards on a HLG-320H-36A driver. It looks like Quantum boards are your best bet with the power flickering so you can either pay out the ass for a premade kit, or wire it yourself and get them for less than half the price. There are no better quality lights or more efficient lights then Quantum boards. The cobs will cost you about twice the amount.

Edit: just saw that you already made a purchase
 
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TheTrailGuy

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Hi Ant,

Thanks for taking the time to post your thoughtful response. I did look long and hard at different QB kits, both the complete kit options and total DIY (LOTS of great info on this site!). For me, since I only needed the one light, I opted to spend the extra $$$ on a pre-built light. For me, the $200-$300 extra was worth it to have a light where I don't have to deal with wiring and for a light that I won't (shouldn't) have to worry about for years. As I mentioned before though, my decision would have been very different if I had needed to build out a tent/room with more than one light.
 

Major Blazer

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If their ppfd chart is honest, you'll rock that 2x4 with that lamp. Lots of DIYers here so 2.0 Umol/joul is not the most impressive but it's not bad either. Good luck with it!
 
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