First RDWC - Sweet Seeds - Green Poison - Fast Vers

kiwipaulie

kiwipaulie

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Hi all,

Doing my first DWC run and have built my own little system based off loads of reading and advice from you good bastards!!

Funny thing is I already know where I have gone wrong and will fix it when I build the next one for the flowering tent.

Anyway, strain is sweet seeds green poison, fast version.

Nutes - using a local blend. Been tried and tested I'm told for over 20 years.

It has 4 x 20l buckets with a 20l res. 200l per hour air to each bucket with two stones. I'm going to get a standalone air pump for the res.

I'll be using canna clay balls. Peat pellet to start as you can see. I have just popped them on the hot water cylinder. I like to give them 24 hours on the cylinder, with a newspaper between them, seems to make them heat up and pop each time as the humidity is very high.

Vegging with a 600w mh Horizontally and will be flowering vertically with anything from 1k - 1.4k hps or mix with mh.

Vegging in a 1mx1m and flowering in a 1.2x1.2

Hopefully it will all be a success as I'm sick of dealing with soil.

I'm completely open to ideas and advice, so please don't hold back!!

I put 5 seeds down, so the fastest 4 get to live. That's if I have 100% success.
 

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I felt the fast version was not as good as the feminized, as I've grown both out and was a tester with Sweet Seeds for the F.V.

It did finish a week earlier than the feminized version. There probably is a grow report on RIU by me about of strain if you care to find it.

Feel free to ask me anything as you progress in your grow and good luck.......
 
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kiwipaulie

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SSHZ said:
I felt the fast version was not as good as the feminized, as I've grown both out and was a tester with Sweet Seeds for the F.V.

It did finish a week earlier than the feminized version. There probably is a grow report on RIU by me about of strain if you care to find it.

Feel free to ask me anything as you progress in your grow and good luck.......
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Cheers man. I'm a little confused. These are fem seeds as well.

I'm pretty sure I did come across a thread from you on them when researching.

Cheers bro I will def ask questions if I have trouble.

First one lol. What were they like on ferts, are they tolerant? Thinking of starting the seedlings at 0.6 ec and then crank up from there.
 
kiwipaulie

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So I have put them under a mh. I know I don't need to do this, but I believe the seed somehow knows the heat/sun Is above so they travel towards it. For example every time I used to use a heat pad, after a few days, generally the tap root would poke out the soil. I figured they are growing towards the heat.

Temps sitting at 24c and humidity 55%, humidity could be better, but I'm not too fused.
 

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Always go lightly on fertilizer the first couple of weeks.......the plants are small, the root systems are tender and they just don't need a lot. Around week 3+ I start to slowly raise the ppm/EC. Over time you'll learn to let the plant tell you what it needs by watching the leaves and coloring. Lime green and light color leaves means you can boast the ferts some, burnt leave tips and dark green leaves means you should cut back ferts for a while.

I have never used a heating pad, nor should you. I have always used the paper towel method and fresh seeds will always pop around day 1-3 if the temperature is normal room temp and the paper towels are moist enough. It's easy to burn tender taps roots so be careful. And humidity is almost meaningless at this point.

I used to do hydro many years ago with very large systems, designed myself that held around 800+ plants in a 6" tube snaked around a large room with many lights. The 2 most important things are pH range of the water and water temperature. Constant monitoring is VERY important as the system is very HOT, and things can go badly very quickly. Always here to help........
 
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Quick update. One is starting to break through the top. I had to moisten the jiffys as they were nearly dry. Noticed 3 out of 5 already have a root sticking out the bottom, so I have confidence in the seeds so far.

I should be able to put them into the system tonight once they pop up. Three day germ.
 

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kiwipaulie said:
Cheers man. I'm a little confused. These are fem seeds as well.

I'm pretty sure I did come across a thread from you on them when researching.

Cheers bro I will def ask questions if I have trouble.

First one lol. What were they like on ferts, are they tolerant? Thinking of starting the seedlings at 0.6 ec and then crank up from there.
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Just for clarification, both versions are feminized. The fast version has been mixed with the auto green poison making it finish earlier but it still remained feminized......
 
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SSHZ said:
Just for clarification, both versions are feminized. The fast version has been mixed with the auto green poison making it finish earlier but it still remained feminized......
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Did you find the yield less on the fast version. I know they claim there's no loss, but I find it hard to believe
 
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My yield was way down on the feminized G.P. Too......as they make more seeds, and choose different parents, etc., things change slightly. I'm not sure I'll do it again as my yield was 33 Percent less this last grow. Nothing else changed, just the yield was less. Which surprised me as the room looked full.
 
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SSHZ said:
My yield was way down on the feminized G.P. Too......as they make more seeds, and choose different parents, etc., things change slightly. I'm not sure I'll do it again as my yield was 33 Percent less this last grow. Nothing else changed, just the yield was less. Which surprised me as the room looked full.
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How long did you veg them for. I'll be vegging these ones for nearly 7-8 weeks. Does the strain stretch much?
 
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kiwipaulie

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Update. 4/5 seedlings hatched. The last one has a root sticking out the bottom. I'm just going to chuck it into the flower tent and 12/12 from seed her.

Anyway, I ended up mixing up a batch of nutes at EC 0.45 and ph it to 5.8. I'm using tap water that basically has nothing. My cf meter states the tap water at 0.25.

I noticed after adding it to the res and buckets that the ph slowly rises. Is this because I have airstones in each bucket. Should I ditch the airstones and just attach t connectors to the hoses bringing the nutes back in at the top creating a double water fall? Currently just got a 90 degree elbow

Any help on this greatly appreciated.

One other thing I was trying to be as clean as I could be, but still managed to get a little dirt from my hands in the res water. Does this matter at all?
 

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kiwipaulie said:
How long did you veg them for. I'll be vegging these ones for nearly 7-8 weeks. Does the strain stretch much?
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I veg typically for 28-30 days.........if you go longer, you bench pinch, bend, LST, etc. With it's skunk genetics, they will grow taller over time. But with a lot of training, they can be a gigantic bush too.
 
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kiwipaulie said:
Update. 4/5 seedlings hatched. The last one has a root sticking out the bottom. I'm just going to chuck it into the flower tent and 12/12 from seed her.

Anyway, I ended up mixing up a batch of nutes at EC 0.45 and ph it to 5.8. I'm using tap water that basically has nothing. My cf meter states the tap water at 0.25.

I noticed after adding it to the res and buckets that the ph slowly rises. Is this because I have airstones in each bucket. Should I ditch the airstones and just attach t connectors to the hoses bringing the nutes back in at the top creating a double water fall? Currently just got a 90 degree elbow

Any help on this greatly appreciated.

One other thing I was trying to be as clean as I could be, but still managed to get a little dirt from my hands in the res water. Does this matter at all?
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Wow, cute little setup. pH moving upward in your type of system is perfectly normal- but you have to continue to monitor it as anything above a pH of 6 or 6.1 is probably not good. Adding fertilizer, which is a salt and acidic, will drive pH downward but as the plant uses the ferts, it slowly rises again. You may need to add an enzyme like Z7 or Hygrozyme (or any of 25 that are available) to keep water and tubing clean with no slime. I'm pretty busy just now, I'll come back with more later today....
 
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My only tip is to not go overboard with nutes and you should be sweet. The first few weeks are the most important, just give them what they want not what the bottle says they need! You got SSHZ on the case too and he's a wealth of knowledge :)
 
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