First time LSD user

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I Got Kottonmouth

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for the past 4 years I have been a big pot head, I haven't touched any other drug, the past year I have been smoking less (unfortunately) and I started to get into philosophy and I often find myself zoning out thinking about how the world works, what happens after death, religion, space, etc

I started to become curious about LSD in hope of helping me understand why my mind randomly thinks about things, and I have decided I want to do it, but the only thing is that I'm scared I'm going to have a "bad trip" as I will be doing this by myself

a few of my uncles have schizophrenia, my mother and brother have split personality disorder (basically mood swings) but I have yet to show signs of having this, however I have suffered depression in the past year and I have had some pretty fucked up thoughts (murder.. probably from too many horror movies and books, but I would think about killing people(I would never do it), which I couldn't stop my brain from thinking, but I have erased all these thoughts in my head and now I dwell on philosophy and become more peaceful kind of LOL)

My question is, will past depression and my thoughts about murder and death completely fuck the trip and possibly bring me to a "psychosis state"
I only plan on using it once and only once

so, do you think I should do it or not?

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ganji2

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If I were you, I would not do it. I think lsd has a way of bringing out under lying mental disorders, and sounds to me like your family has a long history of them. And if you're having thoughts of killing people, just out of the blue. Hmph, well I would think you might have a disorder yourself. That acid could fuck you up bro.
 
Chronic Connoisseur

Chronic Connoisseur

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you can, just try and make sure you are in a good mood. you shouldnt really have any probs unless you are depressed at the time. you dont have to do a shitload..
 
bicycle racer

bicycle racer

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i would say hold off lsd is not to be taken lightly i would consider mushrooms to see how your spirit responds to hallucinagens(misspelled). as far as violent thoughts i would be carefull w/ these type of drugs at all you may want to take a more spiritual path the same breakthroughs and understandings can be accomplished through meditation over a period of years without drugs.. if you have possible violent tendencies that could be dangerous for yourself and others around you it is not worth the possible repercussions.:peace::peace::peace::peace:
 
Ativas

Ativas

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Absolutely and positively without a doubt - not. With a family history of mental illness/disorders plus the fact that you are questioning your own thoughts, taking acid is a bad idea for you. Don't take the chance. My opinion.
 
Chronic Connoisseur

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Ativas said:
ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY AND WITHOUT A DOUBT - NOT. Read my response to another user here: https://www.rollitup.org/hallucinatory-substances/61469-i-have-shrooms-acid-question-2.html#post700839 It will explain my story. Also, you should never do acid alone anyway - that's a recipe for disaster. If you are a person who has random, fast running thoughts you are not a good candidate for this drug, if there is such a thing. The answer is NO, do not take it, and read my other response.
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i really wouldnt listen to of half the people on the internet honestly. im not saying these people are lying, but based on what they are saying, i would say they are.. just cuz.. its the net..and not everyone has expierence..but they damn sure have opinions

drugs can be like alcohol.. especially for people who are first timers.. if you have a trusted source of lsd, i would at least try it for sure. you dont have to geek out on it for like 2 days.

i have had my share of depression, a very severe case when i was a little kid in 8th grade... and if you watch enough scary movies, or csi you are bound to have thoughts like "i bet if i killed somone i could gt away with it" and seeing the shit people kill other people for on tv.. makes many of the real things people do worth killing them for.. not saying i would.. but i see where you are comming from.

but just take this advice and you will be ok. (of course some people just cant handle drugs)

1.buddy system, try not to do it alone.
2.be in a clear state of mind, dont be unhappy/depressed/sad thoughts.
3.dont over do it.. pretty much all bad stories are from people who over do it.. kinda like ativas.. i have not done 100 hits.. but i have done enough to respect it, and use it a couple times a year. and so have many of my friends. just dont end up like activas when he "... suddenly found myself at the bottom of the carpet trying to climb out, up the fibers ... couldn't make it ... somehow ended up outside riding trees ... climb one, it springs into the air and tosses you over to the next one - so I thought ..." haha.. thats a good ass story though.. ahhh the 70's!!
 
Seamaiden

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Ativas said:
ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY AND WITHOUT A DOUBT - NOT. Read my response to another user here: https://www.rollitup.org/hallucinatory-substances/61469-i-have-shrooms-acid-question-2.html#post700839 It will explain my story. Also, you should never do acid alone anyway - that's a recipe for disaster. If you are a person who has random, fast running thoughts you are not a good candidate for this drug, if there is such a thing. The answer is NO, do not take it, and read my other response.
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I don't think I'm much younger than you, and if you did HUNDREDS of hits, my friend, you fried your brain. It's small wonder you had one hell of a trip. Not criticizing, just an observation based on the friends I used to have who did the same thing.

It used to be one of my favorite drugs, and I fried all alone all the time. It was actually better that way a lot of the time, people can't fuck with you if you're alone. However, I am also very much a loner and usually prefer being by myself, and also love to get on my scoot and just go, all by myself.

So (to the original poster), here's the thing, in my opinion as someone who hasn't done hundreds of hits: It depends. It depends on YOU, it depends on the situation, it depends on the acid itself. However, you've got a history of mental illnesses that are pretty heavy duty. I have no idea what acid is like these days, but the last time I dropped in the early 90s it was mostly speedy, not much of a trip at all.

If you're gonna do it (because honestly, it's really up to you, you're responsible for yourself), then you MUST understand that YOU CONTROL YOUR MIND, not the other way around! You can control the entire trip, but it takes a strong will and a strong mind. Start small, never trip more than one day consecutively or you really will fry your brain, drink lots of fluids, and watch out for wanderlust (go on foot if you must, don't drive).

Oh, and you might REALLY enjoy watching "I (heart) Huckabee's" while you fry. Fantastic flick, funny, and just a f'ing trip all the way around. When Dustin Hoffman shows what's-his-name how everything is intertwined... hehheh, it's a trip even when you're not on anything.
 
Ativas

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I may have overdid it in my posts, but I was hell-bent on making my point. Most of the acid I did was no big deal, weak shit, but every now and then we would get something scary powerful - and that, is where the problem lies. Anyone who has done a hit like the one that did me in will tell you the same thing. You just don't know if that's what you're gonna get. The stuff is microscopic - it's real easy to get too much on a tab, or pill etc. Incidentally, if you think my other post was a 'story,' you've never done strong acid. Anything, and I mean anything, is possible.
 
Ativas

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Seamaiden said:
If you're gonna do it (because honestly, it's really up to you, you're responsible for yourself), then you MUST understand that YOU CONTROL YOUR MIND, not the other way around! You can control the entire trip, but it takes a strong will and a strong mind. Start small, never trip more than one day consecutively or you really will fry your brain, drink lots of fluids, and watch out for wanderlust (go on foot if you must, don't drive).
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To repeat a point that may have been missed, if you happen to get very strong acid (as I did) you CAN'T control your mind. It's not a matter of being 'weak' or a person that 'can't do drugs.' The acid takes over completely - you BELIEVE what is happening is real and therefore there is nothing to control. You can't tell your mind 'this isn't real' because it's not functioning like that anymore. If you believe a car is coming at you (though it's really not) you can't say, 'I can stand here 'cause this isn't real' - you believe it actually is so you will jump out of the way. It's hard to explain, but that is where the danger lies and whole point I was trying to make. If no one cares to listen, so be it. I hope all goes well for whoever tries it. I stand as someone who says no - there better ways to get high.
 
StellaBlue

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I generally ask the person whose selling it how heady it is.. Like most people can agree on how strong a single dose should be and from word of mouth decide how many hits one should take if its stronger or weaker acid. But I do understand where your coming from man, I once paid for a couple hits of liquid and the girl sneezed and dumped the entire dropper down my throat. It was definitely a very high dose trip but I just went with it and everything was fine. Did you ever consider maybe your tabs were laced? 2CB I think it is? I've been hearing alot about real bad and excessively long trips because of it. I've never touched it cause of the horror stories i've heard and just cause plain L is all I would ever want. Also your shit just could have been bad acid meaning it was manufactured poorly. Ever head the quote from woodstock "don't eat the brown acid". all I'm trying to say man is people have been doing LSD for quite awhile now, its stood the test of time and has been proved harmless. It's so obviously not for everyone though so if its not for you then great you know not to take it. If your thinking about trying it, start small (no more the a single dose) get it from a reliable source and trip with experienced users. but going around telling people it's horrible and to stay away is bullshit man. I've had many life sculpting journeys on LSD and it's helped me become the best person I know how to be so I just don't think you should try and keep people from experiencing their OWN life and forming their own judgments.
 
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at this point in my life I'm extremely happy, I recently turned 20 and it has lifted me up on a level that I cant describe, although I should be in a depressed state, I feel impervious to any negative emotions, I never had interests in doing it but I have suddenly have the urges to explore my mind, thanks everyone for the posts, I have decided to get a psych exam first to make sure I have nothing to worry about, I do know I'm a bit obsessive compulsive but everyone is in their own way

as for saying I should control my mind, I believe I'm 100% in control of my mind, if anyone here has had strong thoughts of killing someone (random pedophile or a rapist) then you will know how hard it is to completely get rid of those thoughts, and I think once you can do that and suppress all urges you have, you are in control. It's gotten to the point where if I want to punch someone if they have done me wrong, I will end up venting my anger through watching movies and letting is subside or exercising


and if I do it ill check out I (heart) Huckabees :P

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and for the acid, I would be dropping two, MAX, one first and then if nothing happens after 5 hours or so I would do half of the other. I only plan on doing this once, so I dont see how one go could fuck my head beyond repair compared to all the chronic and grandfather dust I have put myself through :P
 
Seamaiden

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Watch I Heart Huckabee's anyway. :)

If you're feeling "extremely happy", then be prepared for the bottom to fall out. Sounds like symptoms of bipolar disorder to me, so just be careful. Remember, if you could completely control your mind then you wouldn't ever suffer from depression. Plan on it coming back, and I learned watching my dad that the higher the high the lower the low. The more people I've known with these problems the more I learn that's exactly what happens, too. Seems to me that you might benefit from a visit with The Buddha.

If you're interested, I could recommend some books on the brain and brain function, it's actually a f'ing TRIP how "on the edge" we and our brainses are. First one that comes to mind, and is really interesting is by V.S. Ramachandran, "Phantoms in the Brain" (forward by Oliver Sacks, M.D.). Ramachandran is a brain researcher down in San Diego, and he's the one who discovered what the press later called the "religious center" in the human brain. Heady stuff, and fascinating.

Ativas said:
To repeat a point that may have been missed, if you happen to get very strong acid (as I did) you CAN'T control your mind. It's not a matter of being 'weak' or a person that 'can't do drugs.' The acid takes over completely - you BELIEVE what is happening is real and therefore there is nothing to control. You can't tell your mind 'this isn't real' because it's not functioning like that anymore. If you believe a car is coming at you (though it's really not) you can't say, 'I can stand here 'cause this isn't real' - you believe it actually is so you will jump out of the way. It's hard to explain, but that is where the danger lies and whole point I was trying to make. If no one cares to listen, so be it. I hope all goes well for whoever tries it. I stand as someone who says no - there better ways to get high.
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I was not fortunate enough (or unfortunate enough, depends on your perspective I suppose) to ever get anything that tweaked my brain that well. I think you're explaining it well enough, the thing is that the acid isn't exactly produced with any standards, you know? So, is acid today even anything like what you used to get, or what I used to get? I don't know.

On another note, there are those who would say that what this person is talking about, and what we're all doing, is self-medicating. I say, yeah, ok, so what? If it helps me function, so what? If it doesn't interfere in my life or the lives of others, so what? It affected your life, sounds like it affected it rather significantly, and so you speak to that. I still think it sounds like you dropped hella fry. ;)
 
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Seamaiden said:
Watch I Heart Huckabee's anyway. :)

If you're feeling "extremely happy", then be prepared for the bottom to fall out. Sounds like symptoms of bipolar disorder to me, so just be careful. Remember, if you could completely control your mind then you wouldn't ever suffer from depression. Plan on it coming back, and I learned watching my dad that the higher the high the lower the low. The more people I've known with these problems the more I learn that's exactly what happens, too. Seems to me that you might benefit from a visit with The Buddha.

If you're interested, I could recommend some books on the brain and brain function, it's actually a f'ing TRIP how "on the edge" we and our brainses are. First one that comes to mind, and is really interesting is by V.S. Ramachandran, "Phantoms in the Brain" (forward by Oliver Sacks, M.D.). Ramachandran is a brain researcher down in San Diego, and he's the one who discovered what the press later called the "religious center" in the human brain. Heady stuff, and fascinating.



I was not fortunate enough (or unfortunate enough, depends on your perspective I suppose) to ever get anything that tweaked my brain that well. I think you're explaining it well enough, the thing is that the acid isn't exactly produced with any standards, you know? So, is acid today even anything like what you used to get, or what I used to get? I don't know.

On another note, there are those who would say that what this person is talking about, and what we're all doing, is self-medicating. I say, yeah, ok, so what? If it helps me function, so what? If it doesn't interfere in my life or the lives of others, so what? It affected your life, sounds like it affected it rather significantly, and so you speak to that. I still think it sounds like you dropped hella fry. ;)
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I was seeing a psych and my doctor for nearly a year because I was suffering from anxiety and pretty bad depression, they did tests on me for alot of stuff and one thing I dont have is bi-polar, I do get down, as everyone does, but I can pick myself back up, I havent been upset for atleast 5 months now

I'm going to go back to my doctor and get him to test me a few times, I just wont tell him its because I'm fiending for acid LOL
 
Ativas

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StellaBlue said:
I just don't think you should try and keep people from experiencing their OWN life and forming their own judgments.
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When someone with a family history of mental illness who is questioning his own thought process asks if he should take acid, it has nothing to do with trying to prevent him from experiencing his own life, it's about trying to help him avoid a potential disaster, of which, in this case, he has a definite propensity for. Like I said, we all have our opinions and that is mine.
 
Woomeister

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Personally I used acid throughout the nineties and never had a bad time. My group of friends were pretty switched on though and we respected the drug and only used it when our mindstate was good. Acid, in my opinion magnifies the mood that you are already in, which is why the nervous would be experimenter can sometimes have a one off ,first time bad trip because all that is prevalent in their mind is 'what if i have a bad trip?' and then looks for signs of this happening at the come up stage. The other group of first time happy trippers are somteimes those who are intoxicated beforehand and they have a blast. Have a few beers beforehand loosen up and have a play.PS stay away from weed until you have leveled off- It can taste foul and make you pretty nauseous also. Happy tripping
 
bicycle racer

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i would not reccomend if you have had anxiety in the past it will possibly amplify this issue. i would really consider mushrooms the dosage is more controllable meaning you can take a cap and go for a thoughtfull walk or take much more and get similar effects to lsd. ive seen people have a bad day on either drug. if you handle 1 eighth or more of good mushrooms you would be more likely to handle acid well. when i was younger my friends sister who we found out later to have underlying mental issues began using various things when she tried acid that was it she has since been in and out of mental wards and jails it is a fate worse than death for her and her family. whould she have lost it anyways who knows but it made it happen faster. i reccomend you take up meditation or some other focussed training this way you can reach higher mental states without possible damage. remember this and if anyone disagrees it is because they have not used strong lsd you will never ever be in the same mental state as you were before for the rest of your life just realize that it is not like other drugs. some people feel that there mental state is better off after a strong trip more introspective able to look at things differently etc... others are a mess for years or life. p.s. if you are on any form of antidepressant anti-anxiety anti-pychotic or any other similar pharmaceuticals for controlling mental state 'DO NOT INGEST LSD OR MUSHROOMS':peace:
 
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