flowering issues

MrGoodGreenThumb

MrGoodGreenThumb

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Im week two in 12/12 moved into 13 off 11 on a feew days ago and am just now getting the beginning of preflowers on less then a third of my assorted bag seeds .

I fear its my potting mix 60 miracle grow organic moisture control 40% perlite

It's dark dark black at night no light leaks
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Been having heat as high as 84 and humidity as high as 70 when lights are off . But 38/45 in the day

I mist with neem solution every few days and water every time it gets dry 4/5 days . Sometimes ill add a tbsp of gh flora nova .bloom

Why won't they flower ?
Is 84 way to hot even if it's only that way for a few hours ?
Can the neem oil affect the flowering ?
There's 3 in a 3 gallon 2 in 1.5 gallon 3 in a 2 gallon
 

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weedenhanced

weedenhanced

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MrGoodGreenThumb said:
Im week two in 12/12 moved into 13 off 11 on a feew days ago and am just now getting the beginning of preflowers on less then a third of my assorted bag seeds .

I fear its my potting mix 60 miracle grow organic moisture control 40% perlite

It's dark dark black at night no light leaks
View attachment 3268255 left side
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View attachment 3268253 feared male ?

Been having heat as high as 84 and humidity as high as 70 when lights are off . But 38/45 in the day

I mist with neem solution every few days and water every time it gets dry 4/5 days . Sometimes ill add a tbsp of gh flora nova .bloom

Why won't they flower ?
Is 84 way to hot even if it's only that way for a few hours ?
Can the neem oil affect the flowering ?
There's 3 in a 3 gallon 2 in 1.5 gallon 3 in a 2 gallon
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Be patient man give them time can take upto 21 day to really show sex if u see balls chop if u see nothing wait
 
VX420

VX420

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MrGoodGreenThumb said:
Im week two in 12/12 moved into 13 off 11 on a feew days ago and am just now getting the beginning of preflowers on less then a third of my assorted bag seeds .

I fear its my potting mix 60 miracle grow organic moisture control 40% perlite
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Why would you fear it’s the Potting soil? I like and use MG, but there are a lot of types of MG and they are not the same. I only use the Premium Potting Mix, and I use that as my 50% base to my soil mix. I do not like and would stay away from the moisture control, and I am not to thrilled about the organic stuff either.

MrGoodGreenThumb said:
I mist with neem solution every few days and water every time it gets dry 4/5 days.
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1) Why are you misting at all... Misting is not good for the plants, its screws with the roots. IF you have a problem and NEED to Foliar feed, then do it, if not.. then don't.
2) why are you using Nem oil ? do you have a current bug problem?

MrGoodGreenThumb said:
Why won't they flower ?
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They are not mature enough. they will flower when they are ready.

MrGoodGreenThumb said:
Is 84 way to hot even if it's only that way for a few hours ?
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No,, but if you can get it lower, I would.


MrGoodGreenThumb said:
Can the neem oil affect the flowering ?
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No but why are you using it?
 
vostok

vostok

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Yet another grower who dumb- assly puts more than one plant in a pot ..
then squeezes 'HELP' from the membership
...doode please read a book

...really its so embarrassing

First above all is pot up to 15 liters or 3 us gallons, continue with you mix ...thats the good news,
tho the plants are looking stretched thats fine for now
least you don't have nute issues, try 12x12 as otherwise you are seriously cutting your yield by 25%,
water in fine weather during the day so the plants are dry -ish mid morning ie. 3am
Neem Oill is good and is proven systemic, so lay off toward the bud/harvest

...and do have some patience or consider mushrooms ...lol
 
weedenhanced

weedenhanced

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vostok said:
Yet another grower who dumb- assly puts more than one plant in a pot ..
then squeezes 'HELP' from the membership
...doode please read a book

...really its so embarrassing

First above all is pot up to 15 liters or 3 us gallons, continue with you mix ...thats the good news,
tho the plants are looking stretched thats fine for now
least you don't have nute issues, try 12x12 as otherwise you are seriously cutting your yield by 25%,
water in fine weather during the day so the plants are dry -ish mid morning ie. 3am
Neem Oill is good and is proven systemic, so lay off toward the bud/harvest

...and do have some patience or consider mushrooms ...lol
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I've grown mushrooms they rock lol
 
MrGoodGreenThumb

MrGoodGreenThumb

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VX420, post: 10948548, member: 358606

Why would you fear it’s the Potting soil? I like and use MG, but there are a lot of types of MG and they are not the same. I only use the Premium Potting Mix, and I use that as my 50% base to my soil mix. I do not like and would stay away from the moisture control, and I am not to thrilled about the organic stuff either.

I got miracle grow organic moisture control I wanted pro mix but they didn't have it . So I mixed in perlite and jobes organic.
4_1_1 ; had microbes and stuff.
I add molasses as well


1) Why are you misting at all... Misting is not good for the plants, its screws with the roots. IF you have a problem and NEED to Foliar feed, then do it, if not.. then don't.

Ill stop misting . Already in flower so no need.
Misting don't benefit anything thou ?
2) why are you using Nem oil ? do you have a current bug problem?

LOTS OF KNATS IN MY HOUSE WORRIED ABOUT EGGS IN SOIL . SEEN POOP ON LOWER LEAFS


They are not mature enough. they will flower when they are ready.

I WAS JUST WORRIED ON HEIGHT IN THREE WEEKS THEY WHERE ALL ABOUT A 8_12 inches each



No,, but if you can get it lower, I would.

I try n try just seems like 77_84 daily
45/39 rhm thou
Thinking of getting eva dry dehumidifier the small closet one



No but why are you using it?
Paranoid
 
MrGoodGreenThumb

MrGoodGreenThumb

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vostok said:
Yet another grower who dumb- assly puts more than one plant in a pot ..
then squeezes 'HELP' from the membership
...doode please read a book

...really its so embarrassing

First above all is pot up to 15 liters or 3 us gallons, continue with you mix ...thats the good news,
tho the plants are looking stretched thats fine for now
least you don't have nute issues, try 12x12 as otherwise you are seriously cutting your yield by 25%,
water in fine weather during the day so the plants are dry -ish mid morning ie. 3am
Neem Oill is good and is proven systemic, so lay off toward the bud/harvest

...and do have some patience or consider mushrooms ...lol
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So don't do 11/13 ?
No nute issues. Worried about the miracle grow busting " feeding pellets" during flower .
What if I moved the pot with three in it into a five gallon pot .
They look stretched ?
There about 8 inches from the mh . Due to the heat .
 
vostok

vostok

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MrGoodGreenThumb said:
So don't do 11/13 ?
No nute issues. Worried about the miracle grow busting " feeding pellets" during flower .
What if I moved the pot with three in it into a five gallon pot .
They look stretched ?
There about 8 inches from the mh . Due to the heat .
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Try and stick to 12x12 as you can, you are cutting vcaluable light...add it up?
feeding pallet are nute salts of questionable content, avoid if
possible often you can't ..so cut back your nutes by 15-20%
pot them to their own pot asap. 3-5 us gallon is good add 30% perlite to dilute those feeding pallets!
see the light charts to my blog: https://www.rollitup.org/Journal/Entry/assorted-charts-for-assorted-issues-lighting.27771/
chart number 2​
 
MrGoodGreenThumb

MrGoodGreenThumb

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vostok said:
Try and stick to 12x12 as you can, you are cutting vcaluable light...add it up?
feeding pallet are nute salts of questionable content, avoid if
possible often you can't ..so cut back your nutes by 15-20%
pot them to their own pot asap. 3-5 us gallon is good add 30% perlite to dilute those feeding pallets!
see the light charts to my blog: https://www.rollitup.org/Journal/Entry/assorted-charts-for-assorted-issues-lighting.27771/
chart number 2​
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Would not let me view
 
MrGoodGreenThumb

MrGoodGreenThumb

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Cut out first male today .
Four left still
There kinda close to each other it worries me on splitting them I had to carefully remove the males roots from the other root systems today.
 

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VX420

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MrGoodGreenThumb said:
Worried about the miracle grow busting " feeding pellets" during flower .
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IF every " Feeding Pellet" released ALL the nutez at one time, I would not be enough to even burn your plant. Just not as much nuts in there as people think. FF on the other hand will burn the shit out of your plants,right out of the bag.
 
VX420

VX420

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For Gants, I use the Yellow sticky cards, put the flat on the soil,. they will tell you if you have a bug problem pretty quick. I also like the Hot shots. I use the traps to see if I have bugs, If I do I use a hot shot for a few days. Then watch the yellow sticky for more bugs.. most of the time there are none.
 
vostok

vostok

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VX420 said:
For Gants, I use the Yellow sticky cards, put the flat on the soil,. they will tell you if you have a bug problem pretty quick. I also like the Hot shots. I use the traps to see if I have bugs, If I do I use a hot shot for a few days. Then watch the yellow sticky for more bugs.. most of the time there are none.
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Or make your own ...with yellow card
and paint with cooking oil,
hang in your grow room
count the stuck bodies in the morn
.,....lol

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MrGoodGreenThumb

MrGoodGreenThumb

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vostok said:
Or make your own ...with yellow card
and paint with cooking oil,
hang in your grow room
count the stuck bodies in the morn
.,....lol

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Should I keep using the neem ?
I noticed little black flies these few days not red but black . My soil does stay very moist kinda for to or three days .
 
vostok

vostok

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Continue with the neem ...I do thru out the entire grow, it will show in your yield, and arrival at harvest time ..too,
stress free plants are loving plants where as plants stressing out cause of over watering under watering or over feeding are often late by 3-8 weeks, come harvest,
or worse under yielding ..
Gnats live of the roots, like sucking the sap, add neem oil to your water,
and spray neem on the dirt surface
cover with plastic wrap for 2-3 days,
to entrap them in neem mist
 
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wyrock7

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Hey man youknow the tempsdo induce flowering an outdoor grow i had started flowering in august with 14 /10 hours of light i thought it due to the cold 84 is really hot too yet untested im gonna test it soon.
 
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bondoman

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what's your light situation? 3 small cfls? and you wil have a nute problem if you continue to feed a TBLSP of floranova bloom.
 
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