hydroponics is a load of shit if you ask me, its just pushing mj to its limit, theres nothing chilled about it, im an organic grower in aus and i recently found, that palnting seeds directly into dirt is much faster and more natural than even potting mixes, i planted 6 in australian light brown dirt, 6 sprouted in 5 days, the seeds that i planted in pots took seven days and are tiny in comparison, i water them all with rainwater. i beleive that the more organic and the less chemicals involved, the greater the results, larger yeild and less chance of failure.