From lack of water?

Xephier

Xephier

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Since transplanting my plants into pro-mixHP + 10% worm castings I've found the entire thing of telling if my plants are dry to be much easier. That seed starter soil that I had them in took so long to dry out that it felt like it was never dry and probably hence why I was overwatering it and even if I didn't overwater it then it is likely that the plants could have been suffocating in that soil non the less because it took so long to dry out.

Anyways so I'm still trying to fine tune my watering schedule and I took a pic of one of my plants in particular yesterday and of the same leaf today and noticed.. BeforeIMG_0505.JPGAfterIMG_0508.JPG.
An obvious amount of yellowing going on in only a 26 hour period. Would that more likely be from lack of food or water? I did give them some A and B nutes but I added the water with those after flushing the crap that was in them(with a lot of water) out so I only added about maybe 1/2 to 2/3'rds of the amount that would be added in a normal watering. I watered them tonight with just straight water because I didn't want to overkill with the nutes. I just got my green planet starter kit so I've got all the nutes that I need now and I'm going to add those in the next watering(while going by the chart on the side of the box).
 
nguitars

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LOL, yeah I'm too lazy to read your post, but read your ass off on how to grow and read it again. Never mind that there are differing opinions on the subject.

I'm nobody but I'll at least try. You will see the plants wilting if they really need water. Also if the yellowing and necrosis is only on the bottom leaves, that's not as urgent as having problems appearing on the new growth, but that's just my opinion. This thread has some stuff that might help you if you haven't already seen it.
 
phil k

phil k

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Xephier said:
Since transplanting my plants into pro-mixHP + 10% worm castings I've found the entire thing of telling if my plants are dry to be much easier. That seed starter soil that I had them in took so long to dry out that it felt like it was never dry and probably hence why I was overwatering it and even if I didn't overwater it then it is likely that the plants could have been suffocating in that soil non the less because it took so long to dry out.

Anyways so I'm still trying to fine tune my watering schedule and I took a pic of one of my plants in particular yesterday and of the same leaf today and noticed.. BeforeView attachment 3420186AfterView attachment 3420187.
An obvious amount of yellowing going on in only a 26 hour period. Would that more likely be from lack of food or water? I did give them some A and B nutes but I added the water with those after flushing the crap that was in them(with a lot of water) out so I only added about maybe 1/2 to 2/3'rds of the amount that would be added in a normal watering. I watered them tonight with just straight water because I didn't want to overkill with the nutes. I just got my green planet starter kit so I've got all the nutes that I need now and I'm going to add those in the next watering(while going by the chart on the side of the box).
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our not having those issues from overwatering theres either a ph issue occurring or possibly a lock out but it doesnt really look like a lock out.. how are you balancing your PH and how often are your feeding nutrients weekly... Also how often weekly are you feeding clean water you would drink
 
phil k

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also your stems fairly strong looking are you oxygenating the water? basic oxygen levels in water are fine for really young plants but more established ones require the water being oxygenated... just using a HP style mix isn't enough either you need actual oxygen rich water going to the root system on every water/feed
 
phil k

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Diabolical666 said:
Thats damage from overwatering
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i really don't think thats the issue the leave stay fairly green in the first week or two of overwateringg and when it gets deep the leaves lime more but also get rust looking spots not the tan look thats there.. plus he's using HP which is pretty hard to over water unless your soil is sitting on cold cement it looks more ph related because the inner growth would be responding to the overwatering too.. it looks more PH related.. i understand he said the original soil wasn't drying but that also is a major ph issue which would create the leafe look..

honestly if you switched to pro mix already just mae sure your dying properly before your next water and your ph is on point.. if thats all in check the plant will recoupe.. pull the lower leaves the plants going to focus eery on healing the damage and its not going to heal it so pulling the dead lower fans will direct energy elsewhere.. plus it will stop you from looking at it not changing and thinking its getting worse.. pay attention to your new growth.. and make sure it healthy
 
Xephier

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Diabolical666 said:
Thats damage from overwatering
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Ya, definitely not from overwatering, I've had issues with overwatering already so I'm a bit more familiar with it. Also note how the plant yellowed significantly in a 26 hour period, after I watered it the yellowing came to a halt. This is a picture that I took just now, ok... cancel that, the site is half broken and won't allow uploading of photos right now.. Well, long story short the leaf yellowed a tiny bit more after I watered it but stopped yellowing entirely since then but are still a lime green in colour.

My plants could need some food, Long story short I was using some organic nutes on these non organic plants and using those nutes the wrong way but now they're flushed and I'll be giving them their first real feeding using green planet nutes within a day or 2.

As for oxygenating the water, I have heard of using air stones, I bought one but are they ok to use in nutrient water? Like will they absorb the nutes and potentially release them into the next water that you put in that jug?
 
phil k

phil k

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Xephier said:
Ya, definitely not from overwatering, I've had issues with overwatering already so I'm a bit more familiar with it. Also note how the plant yellowed significantly in a 26 hour period, after I watered it the yellowing came to a halt. This is a picture that I took just now, ok... cancel that, the site is half broken and won't allow uploading of photos right now.. Well, long story short the leaf yellowed a tiny bit more after I watered it but stopped yellowing entirely since then but are still a lime green in colour.

My plants could need some food, Long story short I was using some organic nutes on these non organic plants and using those nutes the wrong way but now they're flushed and I'll be giving them their first real feeding using green planet nutes within a day or 2.

As for oxygenating the water, I have heard of using air stones, I bought one but are they ok to use in nutrient water? Like will they absorb the nutes and potentially release them into the next water that you put in that jug?
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yeah you should be oxygenating regardless and yes they are fine with nutes.. but believe it or not it can create burn ... generally it looks much different from your issues.. but its important so start oxygenating the water.... i don't see the new pic anywhere but like i said if it looks healthier and the new growth is hardy you may be okay after the transfer occurred.. it has nothing to do with the plant being "in-organically" grown prior and now is being "organically grown" thats in n way going to cause issues when the grow conditions and feed are right.
 
ÉsÇ420PoT™

ÉsÇ420PoT™

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Dude... your soil is to hot, or your PH is off... Sorry I am to stoned and tired to read all this. BUt from the quick responses I've seen, this is not from overwatering... PH at 6.0, rip off that crappy shitty leaf in fact all of the ones that are getting rusty spots like that. And see what happens. If they green up and rust disappears problem solved, if it returns, then flush your soil.
 
Xephier

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phil k said:
yeah you should be oxygenating regardless and yes they are fine with nutes.. but believe it or not it can create burn ... generally it looks much different from your issues.. but its important so start oxygenating the water.... i don't see the new pic anywhere but like i said if it looks healthier and the new growth is hardy you may be okay after the transfer occurred.. it has nothing to do with the plant being "in-organically" grown prior and now is being "organically grown" thats in n way going to cause issues when the grow conditions and feed are right.
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Ya got that backwards, I was going to try organic but decided to back out of that. I flushed my plants with plenty of water water transplanting them(maybe should have flushed before transplanting but I wanted to get them transplanted right away and didn't want to transplant mud). As I said the new pic wasn't there because the site was being broken and not letting me upload/post it.

"yeah you should be oxygenating regardless and yes they are fine with nutes.. but believe it or not it can create burn ." I didn't understand this sentence. what can create burn? Are you talking about nute burn? Also you are saying that the air stones are fine to use with nutes? I know that with the liquid nutes you're supposed to add nutes once then just water then nutes then water but if air stone is in the water with the nutes I was afraid it might re-deposit some of those nutes back in the regular water and semi-mess with your feeding schedule.
 

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Xephier said:
Ya got that backwards, I was going to try organic but decided to back out of that. I flushed my plants with plenty of water water transplanting them(maybe should have flushed before transplanting but I wanted to get them transplanted right away and didn't want to transplant mud). As I said the new pic wasn't there because the site was being broken and not letting me upload/post it.

"yeah you should be oxygenating regardless and yes they are fine with nutes.. but believe it or not it can create burn ." I didn't understand this sentence. what can create burn? Are you talking about nute burn? Also you are saying that the air stones are fine to use with nutes? I know that with the liquid nutes you're supposed to add nutes once then just water then nutes then water but if air stone is in the water with the nutes I was afraid it might re-deposit some of those nutes back in the regular water and semi-mess with your feeding schedule.
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Yes he means nute burn. Always use air stones as it aerates your water and continuously mixes the nutrients. If you don't over a period of time the nutrients will coagulate and cause major salt build up rather than being equally distributed throughout your plants, thus causing nute burn. What you mean add nutes then water then nutes then water??? Made no sense.. Usually you water with PH water ONLY until the nutrient in your soil arre used up. From there you will only add liquid nutrients via watering once a week. This means, mix the nutes into the water, and water thouroughly until there run off out the bottom. Then for the rest of the week, water with PH water ONLY. Then next week, repeat proccess. Remeber, to always add nutes first, THEN PH!!!! I think this may be your problem, is your not PH at all, or your PH before you add your nutes, thus the nutes throw off your PH... My nutrients make my water super acidic, thus I PH after mixing nutes to make sure it's at desired level. Just take the air stones, soak em in super hot or boiling water, then reuse, simple as that. Some nutrients may be mixed back in within the process but it'll be so minute that it wont matter. Good luck!
 
mr sunshine

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Xephier said:
Ya got that backwards, I was going to try organic but decided to back out of that. I flushed my plants with plenty of water water transplanting them(maybe should have flushed before transplanting but I wanted to get them transplanted right away and didn't want to transplant mud). As I said the new pic wasn't there because the site was being broken and not letting me upload/post it.

"yeah you should be oxygenating regardless and yes they are fine with nutes.. but believe it or not it can create burn ." I didn't understand this sentence. what can create burn? Are you talking about nute burn? Also you are saying that the air stones are fine to use with nutes? I know that with the liquid nutes you're supposed to add nutes once then just water then nutes then water but if air stone is in the water with the nutes I was afraid it might re-deposit some of those nutes back in the regular water and semi-mess with your feeding schedule.
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Air stones are alright to use period. I'll clear this up for you. Some people are saying over watering some are saying no its a ph fluctuation... they may both be right.or wrong.. Over watered soil can definitely throw off the ph. it does look over watered and your obviously having a ph problem. water less .
 
Xephier

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mr sunshine said:
Air stones are alright to use period. I'll clear this up for you. Some people are saying over watering some are saying no its a ph fluctuation... they may both be right.or wrong.. Over watered soil can definitely throw off the ph. it does look over watered and your obviously having a ph problem. water less .
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I was overwatering my plants but that is not a recent problem. I think that I actually underwatered my plants most recently and that's what the yellowing in the picture is from.
 
Xephier

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ChingOwn said:
Mr. Sunshine's penis is huge you would be a fool not to listen to him.
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I don't doubt that he has more experience than me but all that yellowing in 26 hrs and soon as I watered them no more advancing on the yellowing. It's pretty definitive that lack of watering is the issue with the yellowing. The brown spots on the other hand are either from nutrient deficiencies or dmg from when I was overwatering them before.

Also I have no idea how big his penis is nor do I care to find out.
 
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