get to work, bitches.

UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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SneekyNinja said:
I'd argue that even people currently working should have a chance to retrain.

There is SO much automation coming down the line, people have no idea. We've have the machines to do it for years but they didn't have the spark of intelligence required to outright replace workers.

The AI milestones that have been reached unexpectedly fast in the last few years will in 5 - 10 years not only make human replacement viable but AI's will actually be superior to human workers.

It becomes exponential too, because the first generation of AI can be used to improve on the second, and so on.

People need to reskill and fast.
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there is already a government program in place for the types of workers we are discussing. but it requires workers to retrain even at absurd ages. a 59 year old may have this program as their only recourse, and it requires them to go to college or trade school with workers half their age. by the time they are retrained 4 years later, they are 63 years old. who is going to hire him over the 30 year old?

there is no reason why we cannot provide these workers with a dignified retirement, while still retraining the younger workers for better, safer, more profitable jobs.

i mock the brokedicks here on government checks, but there are deserving people out there who should not be forced to retrain at older ages. it's cheaper just to let them retire in many cases.

http://www.npr.org/2017/02/02/513105056/federal-program-helps-american-workers-who-lost-jobs-to-trade-policies

NPR did a very nice piece about this months ago. or it might have just been days ago. this trump regime feels like a lifetime most days.
 
SneekyNinja

SneekyNinja

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UncleBuck said:
there is already a government program in place for the types of workers we are discussing. but it requires workers to retrain even at absurd ages. a 59 year old may have this program as their only recourse, and it requires them to go to college or trade school with workers half their age. by the time they are retrained 4 years later, they are 63 years old. who is going to hire him over the 30 year old?

there is no reason why we cannot provide these workers with a dignified retirement, while still retraining the younger workers for better, safer, more profitable jobs.

i mock the brokedicks here on government checks, but there are deserving people out there who should not be forced to retrain at older ages. it's cheaper just to let them retire in many cases.

http://www.npr.org/2017/02/02/513105056/federal-program-helps-american-workers-who-lost-jobs-to-trade-policies

NPR did a very nice piece about this months ago. or it might have just been days ago. this trump regime feels like a lifetime most days.
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Make it an optional reskilling program and no argument from me about the retirement thing...but we will need to address the fact people are living longer at some stage.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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SneekyNinja said:
Make it an optional reskilling program and no argument from me about the retirement thing...but we will need to address the fact people are living longer at some stage.
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for that we simply need to raise the cap on social security.

there is no reason why someone like myself should have to pay 12.4% of every dollar i earn to the SS fund while someone like trump only pays .0001% to that very same fund.

raise the cap on SS above $118,000 and it is solvent forever.

trump alone would pay $21 million more dollars every year to SS if we raised the cap. to put that into terms, that is a years worth of SS checks to 1,500 needy retired folks.
 
cool2burn

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UncleBuck said:
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http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2017/03/22/the_ahca_would_force_new_moms_on_medicaid_to_find_work_60_days_after_labor.html

The worst provision in the manager’s amendment is a Medicaid work requirement that would allow states to revoke Medicaid coverage from new mothers who haven’t found a job within two months after giving birth.






LOL.

medicaid freeze in 2020, along with an $880 billion cut to medicaid, will literally be the death of medicaid.

you dumb fuck.

we tried to warn you too.
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This from the rich boy that is just grand!

 
SneekyNinja

SneekyNinja

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UncleBuck said:
for that we simply need to raise the cap on social security.

there is no reason why someone like myself should have to pay 12.4% of every dollar i earn to the SS fund while someone like trump only pays .0001% to that very same fund.

raise the cap on SS above $118,000 and it is solvent forever.

trump alone would pay $21 million more dollars every year to SS if we raised the cap. to put that into terms, that is a years worth of SS checks to 1,500 needy retired folks.
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Read an article that said his net worth has dropped by $800mill since November.

I guess all press is not good press after all.
 
Phenominawesome

Phenominawesome

Member
SneekyNinja said:
I'd argue that even people currently working should have a chance to retrain.

There is SO much automation coming down the line, people have no idea. We've have the machines to do it for years but they didn't have the spark of intelligence required to outright replace workers.

The AI milestones that have been reached unexpectedly fast in the last few years will in 5 - 10 years not only make human replacement viable but AI's will actually be superior to human workers.

It becomes exponential too, because the first generation of AI can be used to improve on the second, and so on.

People need to reskill and fast.
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Very well said, as well the comment on how we train our brains to learn different things faster. I think 'interest' is the largest variable factor for how we end up IQ wise. Not that one interest makes you have a higher IQ, only that being interested in math with train your brain to learn math concepts orders of magnitude faster than things you could give to shits about. That's also why I am a firm believer in doing what you love even if you take a pay hit. I am lucky in a sense that one of my top interests just happens to be a lucrative field. I'm a software developer in my "day job" and it's a vital part of our company to continuously educate. In fact we would have gone out of business right after the lights came on if not for continuing education but that's IT for you. The reason your point is so important is that what I do is infiltrating everything. Medicine, construction, anything. I implement IT solutions for companies that are not IT more often than not so that they can focus on what they do such as grow plants. But with the last couple of LED breakthroughs and automation in raspberry pi and arduino implementations we will start to see the DIY and commercial reach the consumer market.

This being the case, how many software developer/engineers/architects or any otherwise challenging IT professionals do we have in the house? The reason for my visit today was to get a conversation going about smoking and jobs that rely on the brain more than anything else.
 
tampee

tampee

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UncleBuck said:
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http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2017/03/22/the_ahca_would_force_new_moms_on_medicaid_to_find_work_60_days_after_labor.html

The worst provision in the manager’s amendment is a Medicaid work requirement that would allow states to revoke Medicaid coverage from new mothers who haven’t found a job within two months after giving birth.






LOL.

medicaid freeze in 2020, along with an $880 billion cut to medicaid, will literally be the death of medicaid.


we tried to warn you too.
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Hey Uncle Buck how's life been treating you? Sorry I called you a fake Jew not sure why I was banned but it's great to be back so we can debate. ;)
 
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