getting all males and hermies

my last grow was plauged by hermies. all strains... afghan, bagseed, and grapefruit. i know i dont have the best seal on the closet door and door frame so im suspicous of a light leak. other than that i dont think theres any bad conditions to provoke that. so i started a new grow recently and tried to fix the light leak by putting some weather stripping along the door frame where the door meets it as it closes. i havent even made it a whole month under 18/6 and almost all of my plants have started showing male pre-flowers. what the heck is the problem? do you think i could still have a problem with light leaking in? i dont get it. maybe i just need to try some more seeds?

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP!

o and by the way this time it was all bagseed, i want to germ so better seeds tho so let me know what u think! thx!

Hey
your grapefruit and afghan were from seed that was from a seed bank? sometimes shit happens or some seed company's offer low quality- quality of seeds vary big time man. Anyways, not to surprised your bag seed herm but maybe they were really all males? Otherwise is just bad luck!
Light bleed is going to first off make your plants confused and u will know this by the curling of your leaves, much like a spiral effect.
I would guess its the seeds-not your growing- u cant fuck seeds up really. some people might tell u ways to increase your chances on female by certain ways of germination-just take that with a grain of salt.. I have done many outdoor with seeds- and their is one simple way to do it which will always give u (based on probability) 50/50 female/male.

the afghan and grapefruit seeds came from a private grow, not a seedbank. and ive had great success with bagseeds in the past with absolutely no hermies. i really think there is something that is causing this to happen. i just dont understant how a light leak could affect plants that are still under 18/6... does that mean i just got bad luck and need to scrap em and try again u think? ive got some more seeds and even more strains... i just dont have big lights so i wanted to stick to bagseed for now. should i not worry about that and just use my other strains? i have catpiss, blueberry muffin, grapefruit, afghan, northern lights mix, and other random strains, among an abundance of high quality commercial bagseeds.

i just dont wanna waste my good strain's seeds if im gonna grow a damn male farm again, so i want to address the problem first if there is one...
i basically just need to know if i got all those males because of a light leak or just poor genetics... because i dont want hermies again either.

smellzlikeskunkyum said:

i just dont wanna waste my good strain's seeds if im gonna grow a damn male farm again, so i want to address the problem first if there is one...
i basically just need to know if i got all those males because of a light leak or just poor genetics... because i dont want hermies again either.

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wait is your light leak in veg thats causing to hermie??

i thought light leaks were only bad when its in flowering?

im suspicous that the light leak is causing my plants to turn male before i even hit 12/12. im trying to find out if that is possible. i mean i had 8 out of 12 show male pre-flowers before i even thought about switching to 12/12. i dont know what the other 4 will do yet, obviously they could still be male as well, ill just have to wait and see. ive already started germinating some new seeds so ill see what happens i geuss...

Hey,
Its is not the light leak... U have no worries what so ever.. For example. I have 4 1000 HPS in one room But I keep my tarp open 24/7 to the room.. Well outside the room I have some T8 5500k bulbs running 24/7.. The light from these bulbs shine into one of my rooms.. IT does not matter at all when you are in VEG.. Just don flash your lights on, off, 8 hours later on again, 2 hours off, 1 hour on again, get my drift?
These plants are WEEDs and very adaptive- all to much your going to get people getting to fucking technical-ignore them or something. I am cerious what lights you are using.. I would deff germinate some seeds, MOST likly they were male's to start, it just took them 3-4 weeks to identify and maybe even when u flowered them..

Now this is what I would do.. Ditch the MG soil.. Thats ment for outdoor. Get some good soilless medium and a very simple Micro Gro bloom by General Hydroponics. All in one L bottles-this makes things cheap for ya. I would get a pH pen and pH UP and pH Down. Try to keep pH at 6.4... This atleast will get u from rooting to harvest

When germ, place between some wet paper towels-keep very moist. Place paper towels between to plates or something (one plate upside down resting on the other plate) Than plant into a beer cup or something, much like a 4 inch planting pot (filled with soilless medium) Also mix with a micro, grow, bloom at 3ML per gallon of each of your 3 part feed program.. Smooth sailing from their

I dont know if u already have a system down, but this is very basic and simple to follow. Its kinda how I do it, but mines fine turned for MY place.. U will be successfull going this route... Its bad shit seeds, esspeccialy if you bought them in a MIX by a seed company.. Remeber most of these companys are shitty breeders just trying to do a quick cross and mix.. Very few are the real deals with seeds close to the original strain.
Its not your growing.. Belive me! GL, if u have any question, feel free to email. Look for the strain called Chronic, its quility and yeileds great.

Has to be genetics.Id never get another seed from them.It would take such severe stress or a chemical exposure to produce that many hermies.I could nearly kill my girls and they still would not herm.Good strong genetics is the key.Good luck man.

Plants don't turn male, they might turn hermie, but a female will never become a male.

are you sure they are male or that they are even pre flowers? if you think they are ALL herm, let em grow some more, you could be mis reading them.

i once try'd (and failed - pre riu membership) to grow under a 400w halogen, in my nievety i thought i had pre flowers, turned out just to be late devlopment of the foliage because they were getting the wrong light, i now have a much better setup with a 400w hps and that part of the plant developed much faster and i realised it was just the plant branching out.

what light u got?

Most likely it's bad genetics. Plants don't "turn" male - either they are, or are not. If your seeds from the private grow were pollinated by a hermie, that explains why you're getting hermies. Bagseed are tough - my first two grows were bagseed, first one I wound up with 1 female and 2 males, second one outta 20 plants, there were 15 males, 3 hermies, and two females. Odds are good my last two are really hermies that just haven't shown balls.
Good luck!

stoner1984 said:

are you sure they are male or that they are even pre flowers? if you think they are ALL herm, let em grow some more, you could be mis reading them.

i once try'd (and failed - pre riu membership) to grow under a 400w halogen, in my nievety i thought i had pre flowers, turned out just to be late devlopment of the foliage because they were getting the wrong light, i now have a much better setup with a 400w hps and that part of the plant developed much faster and i realised it was just the plant branching out.

what light u got?

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well im sure that they had male pre-flowers. ive been growing for a few years now and can tell right away.
ive never had plants show their sex so fast before. and ive never had so many males... not a single one that showed sex was a female. thats why im so worried. i havent switched to 12/12 yet.
ive only got 3 plants left now, so i have to germ some more and wait. the 3 that are still going are gonna be way ahead of the ones i germ now.

im only using (4) four foot flouro tubes
in a small closet.
its not much, but the plants sure put out alot of crystals under flouros.

DoeEyed said:

Most likely it's bad genetics. Plants don't "turn" male - either they are, or are not. If your seeds from the private grow were pollinated by a hermie, that explains why you're getting hermies. Bagseed are tough - my first two grows were bagseed, first one I wound up with 1 female and 2 males, second one outta 20 plants, there were 15 males, 3 hermies, and two females. Odds are good my last two are really hermies that just haven't shown balls.
Good luck!

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wow! thats rough... 3 keepers out of 20? i didnt realize it had so much to do with genetics... i was thinking it was the door on the closet. ive always had such good luck with bagseeds untill now.

so i dont get it then... how the heck havent all plants ended up with hermie genes? if plants pollenated by hermies produce seeds that are hermies, how the heck dont they have more problems with all of that on large scale grows?

bro i had the same damn problem, well not so much the same but i bought Feminized seeds and my first started showing balls and my room is small 2x2 and not able to let air out so i leave the door cracked after it was all said and done i was pissed and found out that light leak can cause stress causing hermis but i dident wait to see female pistils.. talked to some people they said that shouldent have caused it to turn hermi and that Feminized seed are pollinated by hermis so hopefully that was the problem and it wont happen to the other because the door is still cracked to let hot air out

well, i dont have any exp with feminized seeds, but i bet that light leak could cause hermies for sure! i feel ya man, i got no way of venting my girls, that why i cant use my 600w hps.... ugh...