Getting worse!

So posted a while back about my leaves and shits getting worse. Was told spider mites, then thrips. Think I might have more than one problem. Don't think thrips as I can't see any, everybody says you can see them scatter. I don't see anything moving at all. Definitely something on underside of leaves but they don't move. Have neemed four times now but leaves are getting worse. Four weeks into flower.

What makes you think bugs?

I cant see the pics just curious

If there are red/black dots on the underleaf its spidermites and you will need miticide, sprayed on the plants and everywhere else within 30 ft of the grow room. The rust colour is nute burn.

Can't see pics? Huh, try to full size a cpl. In other thread a week n half ago or two they said bugs.

The last two nuts waterings I've gone pretty light on the nutes. I gave em a pretty heavy straight watering 3 waters ago. I only nuts every other watering. But I can skip the nutes for a cpl to see if it helps.

Anybody else have any input for me?

Def not nute burn. Nute burn starts from the margins of the leaves, not from the veins. looks like bugs to me in the lighter speckled ones. the brown spotting according to Joe's Fresh guide to sick plants is calcium deficiency. I was seeing that in my room until i figured out my Soil Ph was about 5.4 lol. since i have corrected my soil Ph to 6.5 with high quality dolomite lime, i have no longer seen those brown rusty spots around the veins.

as for those light colored spots and the white things under the leaves, i would suggest it is thrips or mites. Regardless, as long as your girls aren't in the flowering stage past 3 weeks, you can spray them down with Neem oil, Captain Jacks dead bug (i highly recommend this product), or another organic method of your choice. even if there are no bugs, spraying down the plants is a great preventative measure for keeping a clean garden. Get a pump sprayer that has a very fine mist to it to apply the bug juice.

Sometimes that brown spotting can affect the underside of the leaves as well, but you should be able to see CLEAR BUG MOVEMENT if you have bugs. they don't just sit still and do nothing lol.

100% with out a doubt you have spider mites. Don't fuck around with these bastards, start spraying immediately! Even if all you have is soap and water, spray them everyday

Thanks guys

try to find some neem oil. mix with water and bit of dish soap and spray ALOT. and keep spraying to kill the eggs when they hatch.

and whatever you do, do not flower more plants until you have gotten rid of the problem. Mites THRIVE in the flower room because the plant is producing a TON of the sugars they are looking for! I just posted the next paragraph to someone else's thread so he's a copy and paste.

here is a SURE FIRE WAY to get rid of them, it's worked for me... Make a solution of the Neem oil (1/2-1 gallon is fine) and make a solution of the Captain jacks (or other product) of the same amount in separate containers that have openings large enough to fit your hands into. Next get your cloner ready to go or however you clone IN A ROOM AWAY FROM YOUR INFECTED PLANTS if possible (if not possible, make it possible). Take cuts off of the plants that you would like to save the strain (you absolutely can take a cut from a plant that is flowering if you don't have any more of that strain in veg and want to save it, just takes a while longer to start reveging). right when you take the cuts invert them and dunk the entire cutting (except the end of the stem where you cut the clone) in each solution for 15 seconds or so. This will ENSURE that every single surface of that cutting has been treated with product. Then dip into your rooting hormone or whatever you use to clone (i use about 5 drops of clonex gel in 10-12oz of water and let them soak for 24 hours then i put them in the aero cloner but this would also work for plugs). When you think the clones are sure to make it, get rid of all your vegging plants that are infected. Clean your veg room and the area surrounding it, and don't put any more plants in it for at least a week (i would go 2 weeks). If the mites have no food or habitat, they will not survive.

if you're so attatched to the plants that you will not clone and remove the infected ones... you better get 2 or 3 organic treatments, and start applying every three days, rotating products. the only problem is, you are PAST the point of wanting to spray plants for insects. looks like you're about 3.5 wks into flower. I never like to spray things on developing buds for fear of any residue to stick around. i dont care how organic it is... neem will make your bud taste and smell like shit.

Yea I'm 5 weeks in almost.