Gorilla Glue #4 under LED

PSUAGRO. said:

So they lowered the output to fix the driver issue then???? thought it was running around 250w at the plug when the onyx bloom came out??


Hey CM, why change the setup from the xgs to rw?? closer in wattage, almost the same spectra........ well either way this should be an interesting grow. NO side lighting/supplemental additions??

so many ???????????????? so little time

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I'm just guessing on the draw by doing the rough math with the Onyx,I'll find out tonight.

With the Onyx coming I decided to get out the kill-o-watt meter to check out the set ups and found that my XGS was only drawing 165 watts at the wall. So I sent Jeff a email and he ended up calling me to talk about stuff. Turns out my XGS's drivers were not set right,nothing wrong with the XGS just driven a little softer so it's a little more efficient. He offered to send me new drivers or I could wait till the next XGS version comes out and trade it in then for free or keep it the way it is. We got talking about stuff and I told him that the Onyx was on it's way and I was going to use the XGS with the same clone and tent size so it was kind of a comparison between the panels. When he found that out,he offered to send me a RW-150 to use instead of my XGS that was driven lower than normal. I never intended to do a side by side but everything just fell into place that way. Jeff also told me he's had a lot of problems with the web site and he is building a new one and hopes to have it up in about a month,the new site will have all the documentation back on it.

My Onyx draws 222 watts with the fan running in the power supply, 218 when the PS fan is off. It looks like the power system with the heat sink fan use about 26 watts so roughly 87% efficient. These are my numbers and I'll verify them with Rapid next week.

I remembered that the specs for the power supply were on the Onyx site so I checked them,they say 87.5% efficient so I guess my rough numbers were pretty close.

Need some opinions on a thought of mine. Since the very start one of clones was smaller and took longer to start developing,once it took off tho it seem to keep pace with the amount of growth the larger one was doing. So the smaller one appears at least a week behind the big one and I put the big one under the screen more than a week before the small one. I was thinking of starting the big one into flower first and give the smaller one another week so the plants are closer to the same size, development and the amount of screen fill. The updates would be a week off sync but the plant size would be closer to equal at their flower start times. What do you guys think?

Sounds like a good experiment!

Maybe trim down the big ones a little. While those send new shoots up the one behind can catch up?

Another good option!

I really think the root development on the small one was less and that caused the lag,if I just give it that extra week I think the plants would be equal at flower start.

Maybe cut the light back on the bigger ones and throw the small one under a big light source for a week

I know if I turn my veg light up things grow way faster..

Really would like to see what the onyx can do. I've never flowered with just xmls before..always been meaning to but haven't done it yet

hell i would just stagger them the week my self. grow looks great Ct.

Both are under one 120 watt 5000k induction light for veg now. I guess I could put the XGS over the small one on 100 watt mode,that should give it a boost.

Ok,I raised the 120 watt 5000k induction light over the bigger plant to 30" and I put the XGS over the smaller one at 24" on full power. Since my XGS is driven softer it's sending about 140 watts to the LED's. I'll see what that does over the next two days.

Comparison pics, I also cleaned up a bunch of fan leaves under the bigger one but left the suckers and under the smaller one just cleaned up some suckers but left the fans. The first two are the smaller one with a more yellow cast.

veg them both longer.

hyroot said:

veg them both longer.

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According to the glue experts at ICmag where the guy created the GG#4 hangs out,I've probably vegged to long for this set up already,they stretch at least 3x and they said I''l need a second screen on them.

captainmorgan said:

According to the glue experts at ICmag where the guy created the GG#4 hangs out,I've probably vegged to long for this set up already,they stretch at least 3x and they said I''l need a second screen on them.

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oh ok.. I have a few strains that do that too. I wasn't expecting to have 5 footers under my a51. They were both 22 -24 inches going into flower. I shimmed off a lot of lower growth though.