Growing Upside down ( light no the ground ) like top
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leftreartire
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the topzy thing to me is a joke. we all know plants grow to thee light. so it will just grow up the side of it and when the tomatoes come in it weights it down to look like it grow to the ground. it doesnt it grows up. plants are meant to grow up
Plants can sense the Earth's gravitational field. Geotropism is the term applied to the consequent orientation response of growing plant parts. are positively geotropic, that is, they will bend and grow downwards, towards the center of the Earth. In contrast, shoots are negatively geotropic, that is, they will bend and grow upwards, or away, from the surface.
These geotropisms can be demonstrated easily with seedlings grown entirely in darkness. A seedling with its radicle (or seedling root) and shoot already in the expected orientation can be turned upside down, or placed on its side, while kept in darkness. The root will subsequently bend and grow downwards, and the shoot upwards. Because the plant is still in darkness, phototropism (a growth movement in response to light) can be eliminated as an explanation for these movements.
Several theories about the manner by which plants perceive gravity have been advanced, but none of them is entirely satisfactory. To account for the positive geotropism of roots, some researchers have proposed that under the influence of gravity, starch grains within the cells of the root fall towards the "bottom" of the cell. There they provide signals to the cell membrane, which are translated into growth responses. However, there have been many objections to this idea. It is likely that starch grains are in constant motion in the cytoplasm of living root cells, and only "sink" during the process of fixation of cells for microscopic examination. Roots can still be positively geotropic and lack starch grains in the appropriate cells.
A more promising hypothesis concerns the transport of auxin, a class of plant-growth regulating hormones. Studies since 1929 have shown that auxin accumulates on the "down" side of both shoots and roots placed in a horizontal position in darkness. This gradient of auxin was believed to promote bending on that side in shoots, and to do the opposite in roots. Confirmation of the auxin gradient hypothesis came in the 1970s. When seeds are germinated in darkness in the presence of morphactin (an antagonist of the hormonal action of auxin), the resulting seedlings are disoriented—both the root and shoot grow in random directions. Auxin gradients are known to affect the expansion of plant walls, so these observations all support the idea that the transport of auxin mediates the bending effect that is an essential part of the directional response of growing plants to gravity.
TLDR: plants know which way is up, and which way is down.
tybudz
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so sleet... why dont you give credit to who you are quoeting. and great. it grows up. what about the fact that the root ball is above the veg. you dont think gavity has any effect how easiliy or how hard it is for nutes to flow.
In theory gravity would help pull nutes threw plant rather then fighting gravity.
not saying buds will gro to the ground but I think the BUDS WILL BE FATTER...
and BLotto. you say its been done... by who... any picks ???
In theory gravity would help pull nutes threw plant rather then fighting gravity.
not saying buds will gro to the ground but I think the BUDS WILL BE FATTER...
and BLotto. you say its been done... by who... any picks ???
nickfury510
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Its been done a few times on here...didnt work out to well..I think FDD tried it
tybudz
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week video... guy has no idea what he is doing. try lsting or other advanced growing techniques. any other experienced growers try this and have pics???
dnkfrmthasoilz7
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i think it all seems fairly pointless. just more node spacing so more stem = less buds because that means more energy is being put into growing and thickening the stems plus more stem length = more distance for nutes to travel. Face it this is retarded
dnkfrmthasoilz7
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why do people condense pictures to picks instead of pic's there is no k in picture people ( @ tybudz )
tybudz
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`i did it both ways jacka**. its called being stoned. and good theiry but do you have proof. have ypu tryed topsy turvy??
upthearsenal
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naw, it's all about what sleet or whatever said. there's been tons of studies on it, some are very old as well. gravity doesn't affect nutrient uptake. plants absorb through their own mechanism, not gravity. if that were correct, then in theory the gravity would pull the nutrients out of the pot, but that doesn't happen because the plant absorb nutrients. so either way, upside down or not, a plant will absorb what's there
tybudz
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wow... pull the nutes out of the plant. read my post.
I went to school for a long time to study physics. i can tell you 100% gravity has a pull and has an effect. it would not make sense any other way.
break it down at a small level. gravity has a pull on CELLS ( matter) toward earth. so it has a pull on nutes. is it easier for water to go uphill or downhill ???? if nutes are going with, instead of against gravity i think it will have an effect. even if its .5 grams more or just a little denser or a little more trichs.... it will have an effect.
tybudz
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this is an outdoor grow. and you think that is using advanced techniques. common. anything on indoor.
and you dont think gravity has an effect.....
upthearsenal
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okay, well i didn't say plant. i said pot... "read my post". when did i ever say gravity didn't have a pull? actually, i think that was my point... and also, i don't think anyone needs to go to school for a long time to study physics to understand that gravity has a pull and effect...
tybudz
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but kind sir. the only point you ever made was referrencing someone elses post.
then you state
"naw, it's all about what sleet or whatever said. there's been tons of studies on it, some are very old as well. gravity doesn't affect nutrient uptake. plants absorb through their own mechanism, not gravity."
so how was that gravity has an effect your point?
then you state
"naw, it's all about what sleet or whatever said. there's been tons of studies on it, some are very old as well. gravity doesn't affect nutrient uptake. plants absorb through their own mechanism, not gravity."
so how was that gravity has an effect your point?