Growing With No Light?

Hey guys,

Im new here and I don't want to make this my only thread I really like this forum but I searched around for awhile and couldn't find anything on Growing indoors without a light.
Basically im sick and tired of waiting for people to get smoke and then pay a hefty ammount for it, what I want to do is just grow 1-2 plants in my room maybe on the window ledge inside and just use day/night cycle would this work?
my room is pretty hot with alot of eletrical equipment on, I dont really want to buy a light to keep it on all the time as I am on a Electric Meter so I have to pay for each bit of energy used ( any ideas on how much it would cost for a light to run like this? )

I have read up on allot of methods for germinating etc and I have found the seeds I want, and yeah I don't want to add chemicals to my plant for fast grow or anything as this will just be for myself and I want the nicest stuff I can make, I am just wondering if a light is only necessary for say growing allot of plants in a dark room as my room is pretty open with sunlight etc and I am hidden away no one can see it.

So yeah can I grow just with sunlight and darkness in a mild hot room through the window?


Regards

well.......first off, you would need an autoflowering strain. With that being said, if your grow succeeds, you're barely gonna have any yield and it's gonna be the crapiest shit you've smoked.

What about the days where it's cloudy or wtvr? I forsee A LOT of stress and hermis, stretching and a hit miss situation. You're gonna need to grow (attempt to) a lot of plants in order for one or 2 of them to succeed.

Honestly you're better off buying your weed that way.

Why are you intent on no lights?? heat is barely an issue with CFLs. Go to walmart (cheap) and grab a pack of those bad boys and that's good for 1-3 plants.

well its just im trying to save on electricity bill atm :L erm could i say grow under a table with a lamp next to it, as i dont really have any spare rooms etc to do this in, erm only other place i could think of is i have like a 3 foot open area where a tiny wardrobe was meant to be i could attach the lamp to the side of the wall and grow my plant maybe if i put like card board around it or something maybe? ergh all I have read up on is germinating and harvesting and drying i was just trying to find a nice method that isent to expensive but will get good results. whats your ideas.


actually I have my old PC Tower case Box it is about 3ft hegit and about 1ft width, if i put a light at the top the one you mentioned and a sucktion fan at the top aswell should that be okay?

did you consider smell ?

if you succed in growing a nice plant or two till haverst ..

think about how a few grams in a bowl on your table smells .. then imagen 50x that ammount (hopefully) and fresh with stems and fan leaves ..
you wont even be able to stay ther yourself the last few weeks ..

and it need light .. strong light .. sun blow out 10,000 Lumens per sq ft. .... a 23W CLF provide in the neighborhoods of 1000 Lumens .. and that is like 4 inch`s away need a few to light up a sq ft of a plant ..

you realy cant do this half .. its not a magic trick .. its a plant .. need to copy nature in your room .. its not a house plant that can go around year after year on shitty water .. in a small pot with no nutriens (witch is`t chemicals .. its food for the plants .. like we need food and vitimins aso. and weed are hungry boath when it comes to food and light and fresh air/co2 for that mather)

if you dont want to make a effort (and I would also suggest a few days reading .. not just about germinating .. you need to get a basic picture of what this demands... and are ready to spend atlest 300$ I would just forget it and continue to buy it .. ther is a reason why Ppl. do take some money for it .. it will cost you power .. work ... and some invesments ..


as somebody said .. do some autos .. thats your best choise I belive .. get a 8 tube T5HO fixture or some LEDs .. then heat and ventilation wont demand so much from your and they are also cheap in power use and can grow some decent buds .. if you know what your doing ..

SOMEBEECH said:

Welome to RIU,just buy a 4 pack of cfls of 23w 100w eqv,you wont even notice them on the electric bill.When i first started bought cheap bathroom fixture, i used 42w cfls and they work close to my T5ho if not better until plants get over 3ft.

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awesome thanks well I have just set up my Pc Tower box its pretty big I think its perfect for it, and im only doing this just for 1-2 plants for myself I really dont care about selling it, in fact I don't think ill even sell it at all, I have set up 2 15mm fans at the top which are actually powered by my PC ( its on 24/7 for my server ) I use about 30p every 24 hours for having my PC on so I am fine there, I am getting a light tomorrow to fit at the top, and I have red some more guides on this website, I think I understand it now, Ill ofc search for how many hours to keep light on etc but yeah I just want this weed for myself as I cant afford to buy it anymore but still enjoy it.

EDIT: ill take a picture quickly just so you can see and tell me if you think this will be okay for 1-2 plants or maybe just 1 ( Also for smell, Its going to be on my Computer desk next to my window so i can have it blowing out the window

UPDATE: Added Pictures - I will put the bulb at the top with the fans and seal it but then make a small little window on the side so i can feed my plants but will make sure I am able to seal it again, its about 70cm height and 30cm width ( Rough Guess ) also I longer cables for the Fans I know they look tiny in the picture. Also This is the Seed I am Getting With a OG Kush http://www.cannabis-seeds.co.uk/feminisedseeds/the-widow.html

@SOMEBEECH What do you think

you schould realy do autos .. in my oppinion ..


the pros:

they finish fast .. some in less then 60 days from seed .. so less power and early haverst ..

they can be grown from start to finish with what ever light time you like .. most do 18/6 or 20/4 tho ..

and you dont need to worry about light leakes aswell doing night time .. like with normal plants .. can realy fukc up a flowering plant if your grow tent/box is`t 110% light proof .. autos dont realy care .. they will flower nomather what ..

smell will mostlikely also be la littel less as you have smaller plants ..

you dont need as big pots (I would use coco fibers in 3 gallon pots)

they stay small so they are kind a perfect for tubes and CLFs

and Bc. they finish fast and stay small you will also need less space and will most likely bump in to less problems .. as ther is less time to do so ..

all in all a easy way for a small stelth grow .. and a nice auto can easily yild a Oz .. keep 2 plants and you can pull 2 oz evry seccon month .. with some pratice maybe even double that .. maybe with some hydro later on ?



cons:

seeds can be a littel more expensiv if you want some good once .. but its not a hugh cost ..

you wont haverst more then 2-3 OZ per plant max ..

some is`t as strong in THC contens .. but I dont belive you will notice the diffrent ..

you cant realy clone em ..

and topping and other training forms is not adviced ..

Growing without a light...are you growing mushrooms?

Slipon said:

you schould realy do autos .. in my oppinion ..


the pros:

they finish fast .. some in less then 60 days from seed .. so less power and early haverst ..

they can be grown from start to finish with what ever light time you like .. most do 18/6 or 20/4 tho ..

and you dont need to worry about light leakes aswell doing night time .. like with normal plants .. can realy fukc up a flowering plant if your grow tent/box is`t 110% light proof .. autos dont realy care .. they will flower nomather what ..

smell will mostlikely also be la littel less as you have smaller plants ..

you dont need as big pots (I would use coco fibers in 3 gallon pots)

they stay small so they are kind a perfect for tubes and CLFs

and Bc. they finish fast and stay small you will also need less space and will most likely bump in to less problems .. as ther is less time to do so ..

all in all a easy way for a small stelth grow .. and a nice auto can easily yild a Oz .. keep 2 plants and you can pull 2 oz evry seccon month .. with some pratice maybe even double that .. maybe with some hydro later on ?



cons:

seeds can be a littel more expensiv if you want some good once .. but its not a hugh cost ..

you wont haverst more then 2-3 OZ per plant max ..

some is`t as strong in THC contens .. but I dont belive you will notice the diffrent ..

you cant realy clone em ..

and topping and other training forms is not adviced ..

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ah thank you man very informative Love It, I am deffiantly going to use those autos, and I can really get an Oz from each plant? I dident think id get more than a quarter xD but meh ive just started, thanks again <3 You think that box will be good with the fans for those 2 autos yeah?

a Oz for a auto would be kind a avages I belive .. if you do it right .. you need some good lights and you will need some nutriens .. and also a way to provide fresh air/co2 for them ..


if it was me I would either get a nice 6 tube T5HO fixture




or 10x23W CLFs ..

4/8 of them in 2700K and two of them in 5000K (K=Kelvin the color of the light)

and grow two small autos .. in 3 gallon pure coco fibers with hydro nutriens ..

make some kind of box with some of them PC fans Im sure you have plenty of

sumthing like this:




or this:




can even get some of them cheap cooker ventilation carbon filters



from your local "walmart" .. replacement filters .. cost like 8-10$

I belive they easily can be fittet on a PC fan with a littel creativity and some dutch tape ..

and Im sure it atlest will take the top of the smell ..

place two PC fans in the top of the box and make em pull old air out .. a passiv intake in the bottom will be enough .. as the presure will pull air in automaticly ..

also place a small table fan near em for some air circulation .. a small clip on fan will proberbly do ..


then I guess your ready to go ..

but continue to do some research .. a nice place is here:

http://www.420magazine.com/forums/how-grow-marijuana/81264-how-grow-marijuana-everything-you-need-know.html

can answer many basic questions ..


best of luck ..

netherspike said:

ah thank you man very informative Love It, I am deffiantly going to use those autos, and I can really get an Oz from each plant? I dident think id get more than a quarter xD but meh ive just started, thanks again <3 You think that box will be good with the fans for those 2 autos yeah?

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Hate to break it to you 1zip per is not gonna happen.You will need a high yield strain like the Big bud and a Hid light,dont think a auto IMO will get big enough and i know alot of growers on this site that cannot do 1 zip even with a 400HID.I hope you prove me wrong.I use about 50wpsft of hid and everything has to be almost perfect,i get on average 1.2 to 1.8 per plant.I can do better i just dont sog i like Bigass pretty plants even tho gonna do a Sog with my BB i just got.Single seed centre is nice and very good sevice atleast for me and you can buy just 1 seed of a strain i got 5 females and some BB plus they give ya to 2 free FEM for free.

Slipon said:

a Oz for a auto would be kind a avages I belive .. if you do it right .. you need some good lights and you will need some nutriens .. and also a way to provide fresh air/co2 for them ..


if it was me I would either get a nice 6 tube T5HO fixture

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or 10x23W CLFs ..

4/8 of them in 2700K and two of them in 5000K (K=Kelvin the color of the light)

and grow two small autos .. in 3 gallon pure coco fibers with hydro nutriens ..

make some kind of box with some of them PC fans Im sure you have plenty of

sumthing like this:

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or this:

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can even get some of them cheap cooker ventilation carbon filters

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from your local "walmart" .. replacement filters .. cost like 8-10$

I belive they easily can be fittet on a PC fan with a littel creativity and some dutch tape ..

and Im sure it atlest will take the top of the smell ..

place two PC fans in the top of the box and make em pull old air out .. a passiv intake in the bottom will be enough .. as the presure will pull air in automaticly ..

also place a small table fan near em for some air circulation .. a small clip on fan will proberbly do ..


then I guess your ready to go ..

but continue to do some research .. a nice place is here:

http://www.420magazine.com/forums/how-grow-marijuana/81264-how-grow-marijuana-everything-you-need-know.html

can answer many basic questions ..


best of luck ..

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Dude theres noway he will get 1oz with the lights he has,Have you ever grown a Auto?Not saying impossible just show me!! A auto grown and flowered with cfls that produced a zip.

brotherjericho said:

Growing without a light...are you growing mushrooms?

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cant even grow most mushrooms without light....

not to bad for a low budget fist grow ...

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at 0:48 when i mess with those flaps that's where im going to put 2 intake fans one for each each plan on each side an ill put another 2 suction fans above them just under the lights, the white poly at the bottom is just for drainage so i can have a tray under there and get the water out etc, but yeah could anyone name like the best lights for a descent price and low energy consumption, or are the ones posted on first page of threads good enough? as people are saying about different lighting now :L

Nice looks like my first was that aluminum pan Hood?What ya get Dry?

SOMEBEECH said:

Nice looks like my first was that aluminum pan Hood?What ya get Dry?

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its just plain card board but its very strong and the bottom is strong aswell, im currently adding braid around my wires for my 2 fans for the bottom, i need another ac adapter to power the 2 at the top, good thing i already have loads of fans xD and there using about 12v so it wont affect the electric bill all i need now is the lights and seeds ill order at the same time i have miracle grow fertilizer but i heard miracle grow is crap for growing weed :/

SOMEBEECH said:

Dude theres noway he will get 1oz with the lights he has,Have you ever grown a Auto?Not saying impossible just show me!! A auto grown and flowered with cfls that produced a zip.

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maybe not .. dunno .. and no not been doing any autos .. but in terori is schould be possible .. and I did also say if he do it right ..

if you get it spot on I would belive 1 oz is possible .. even with out a big HDI lamp ..

but yea .. you need a nice set up .. a nice light fixture is a must .. Im thinking T5HO .. maybe 6-8 tubes .. with the right bulbs .. and maybe even in hydro/DWG in time ..

schould be possible to pull up to two OZ with a HDI on a auto so why not one Oz if you have a nice set up ..

so yea the light fixture is what I would spend most money on .. belive you can get some nice 8 tubes for around 200$ (badboy or lightwave ..sun blast or what ever) that would be a good investment for a set up like that ..



and he is also happy with 1/4 I belive .. so I guess half a Oz per plant would do .. and schould be possible .. can always upgrade later on .. its easy to shop

You could go T5 florescent a 2 ft 2 bulb puts out 4000 lumens and only take 44 watts of elect. less than a 50W light bulb. you could easily grow 1 to 2 small indicas for personaly use. Yes they will smell towards the end.

Slipon said:

maybe not .. dunno .. and no not been doing any autos .. but in terori is schould be possible .. and I did also say if he do it right ..

if you get it spot on I would belive 1 oz is possible .. even with out a big HDI lamp ..

but yea .. you need a nice set up .. a nice light fixture is a must .. Im thinking T5HO .. maybe 6-8 tubes .. with the right bulbs .. and maybe even in hydro/DWG in time ..

schould be possible to pull up to two OZ with a HDI on a auto so why not one Oz if you have a nice set up ..

so yea the light fixture is what I would spend most money on .. belive you can get some nice 8 tubes for around 200$ (badboy or lightwave ..sun blast or what ever) that would be a good investment for a set up like that ..



and he is also happy with 1/4 I belive .. so I guess half a Oz per plant would do .. and schould be possible .. can always upgrade later on .. its easy to shop

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ive just set up all my fans now and made the 2 trays for drainage at the bottom fits in and out perfectly everything else is sealed and I think I could only get a maximum of 4 tubes at the top so im going to go with hanging light bulbs that i can adjust my self but yeah if it is worth getting an expensive bulb for a bigger yeild then ill wait 3 more weeks till i get paid and start it up, im gona leave all 4 fans on tonight see how much its costs in pence from now till 18 hours later on the meter :L