So I've probably spent near 1k on SNS 217 / Guardian / Green Cleaner and I still am getting re-infestations all over my walls n shit. Im not going to be flowering for a long time so im looking for any advice on extremely deadly systemic only spider mite killers. I used floramite in the past with lots of success but in WA state you cannot use it without a license so I got myself some BAYER Tree & Shrub and BAYER Complete insect Killer and was wondering which one was better or if there is something else that is even stronger than BAYER? I had success using the BAYER T & S on root gnats but not sure about spider mites.
Hardcore* Spidermite Killer
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mr sunshine
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Amazon will ship you whatever you need. I think!
I was kinda thinking the same thing, just get a friend to get some floramite from cali and ship it to me, or amazon.... good idea
However I think I want to use BAYER today to help the horrible situation im in... but will it burn my plants or is it ok for spidermites... im using coco and DWC as well..
propertyoftheUS
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Forbid 4f, or Avid.... expensive but definitely worth sleeping better!!!!
*BUDS
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Medical Grade
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hotshot pest strips, seal up the room, keep it warm and leave it be for a few weeks to kill any cycle of eggs waiting to hatch.
SPLFreak808
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Forbid 4f and mighty wash was just about the only things that COMPLETLY got rid of them. Eggs and all. Of course i had to bleach the hell out of my grow. A complete spray ONE time of 4f will make them run far far away! Hit em once with mighty wash, wait a week then once with 4f and clean up the area good. Your done.
I think there's something to cleaning the entire area as well. I've gotten rid of all the plants and restarted and gotten them again. I think they are all over the grow room searching for more plants and unless you bomb the room and clean everything, you might not get a stragler that runs up the plant and makes it home again.
How does hot shots work? I heard it wasn't for indoor use and it's just a bug magnet that bugs come to and stick on? How would that kill their eggs?
How does hot shots work? I heard it wasn't for indoor use and it's just a bug magnet that bugs come to and stick on? How would that kill their eggs?
SPLFreak808
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95% of the time, there are enough mites left behind in the grow room floor/walls even outside of the grow room. They will NEVER leave untill a 100% clean down is done. Hot shot no pest strips work by emitting a poisonous (to human and mites) vapor. It sure keeps them away and it does kill them. Not reccomended to have in your living space for more then 6 hours
So I been keeping my mothers small enough to dunk in a 5 gal bucket and thats what I've been doing... dunking all of my plants when they get spidermites. I typically fill the 5 gal with water and lots of azamax but azamax does not kill on contact so I add a little SNS 217 as well... It seems to wash a lot away but obviously not something that is eradicating them completely, probably a couple left over eggs or something. Is Mighty Wash something that would be more appropriate for dunking, is that why its called a Wash?
Anyway I would like to try Doctor Doom or Hotshots but I dont want any vapors hanging around my house primarily because part of my grow is right next to my water heater with a pilot light that I cannot turn off...
Something like Floramite would be best I think, if I am not consuming any product within another 6 months, right? I mean Floramite will kill any bugs that come back within 3 - 6 months, which would kill off everything right? So all the stragglers that come back and start eating again will all die off? Someone told me BAYER Tree n Shrub was just as good as Floramite but it doesnt say specifically spidermites on the BAYER bottle
Anyway I would like to try Doctor Doom or Hotshots but I dont want any vapors hanging around my house primarily because part of my grow is right next to my water heater with a pilot light that I cannot turn off...
Something like Floramite would be best I think, if I am not consuming any product within another 6 months, right? I mean Floramite will kill any bugs that come back within 3 - 6 months, which would kill off everything right? So all the stragglers that come back and start eating again will all die off? Someone told me BAYER Tree n Shrub was just as good as Floramite but it doesnt say specifically spidermites on the BAYER bottle
I also heard that azamax deactivates over about a 24 hr period, so keeping my bucket filled for dunking over several days or a week probably wouldn't be effective as dumping the bucket every night and refilling with new water and azamax every 24 period? Does that sound about right or a little overboard.
Thanks for the help!
Thanks for the help!
SPLFreak808
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Better to dunk with azamax/neem before you get mites. If you have two dotted mites, most likely you could drown the alive mites, but i find the eggs that survive through a neem dunk/spray, will not mind the taste of neem, therefore preventitive sprays of neem will only kill on contact and not prevent them after the eggs live through a neem session. You will have hatchers and mites from the room find the way back to the plant and re-infest. The trick is to kill them before they re-produce in your environment. If neem stops working, you need to switch it up. Once you get rid of them 100%, you may start a neem dunk program again.