help my plants leaves aare turning yellow.

Beblunted

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well your ph is a little high. Are you giving them nutes or just water. What soil are you using. What lights give some details
 
Hi there,

No nutes at the minute.

Im using a coco coir soil mixture.

Im using a 600 watt hps i know i should prolly use some CFLs but i currently have no funds to buy anything extra.

Cheers


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jondamon

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Coco coir has very little nutrients.

I precharge my coco with a 0.8EC nutrient solution.


I NEVER use plain water.

Your pH should be ideally 5.8 but 6 would be ok for now.



J
 

Cannabis.Is.Free

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My PH is ??
lol I never check it I swear.

Although yes what Jondamon says is very true.

Coco comes with little to no micronutrients, which means you need to supplement it.
Seedlings only have enough food stored for about 2 weeks of growth, after that you're going to want to feed very lightly till you feel the need to give more.

K.I.S.S

Keep it stupid simple.

Feed only when needed and your plant will be happy.
 
Do you know a good ratio? 1/4 nutes for 1litre of water.

Do you recon this will sort out the yellow colouration thats developing on my plants leaves.

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Cannabis.Is.Free

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What nutrients do you have available to you right now?

All depends on what you have.

A simple 1-1-1 will fix everything.
Look at the NPK ratios on your bottles, look for one that is even, or has a little more N than PK.
This is the bottle you want to use, now most will say 1-2ML per liter, you want to use whatever they ask but cut in half.
So a 3L Pepsi bottle filled with 2ML would be fine, or even a little less.
Dilute it to 1/4th basically like you said.

The yellowing is from not being fed, but feeding the plant any amount of N will fix that issue quickly.

To give you an idea, my grow area is being recorded 24/7.
One of my plants had yellowing at the bottom, this was because I was actually flushing nutrients out of the container rather then letting them soak in. I was getting a reading of 2000PPM in runoff so I thought 1/4 nutrients than full strength would help sort out the high PPM, it only made things worse because I had flushed out so much nutrients, when I did another reading, the PPM was below 300. I added some 20-20-20 at full strength, and within 24 hours the yellow turned green (Even saw it in the timelapse of the recording, really cool shit.)
 
Are you familiar with the canna brand nutrients.

Yeah well ive got a vegetative, flowering and sort of flowering stage booster.

Ill definatly sort those nutrients out and give them to them tonight, so they have the night to absorb them.

Cheers for the help mate.


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churchhaze

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For coco, you should be using nutes designed for hydroponics, and you should be feeding with every single watering. Coco doesn't really hold nutrients in it, which is why people using hydroponic formulas like using it.

Anything where N is from nitrate and not ammonium or urea is meant for hydroponics.
 

churchhaze

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That should work for hydro mediums. You should be able to get the plant sorted out with just that.

Never give coco plain water unless you're trying to flush a buildup of salts.

Are you familiar with the canna brand nutrients.

Yeah well ive got a vegetative, flowering and sort of flowering stage booster.

Ill definatly sort those nutrients out and give them to them tonight, so they have the night to absorb them.

Cheers for the help mate.


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BestDirt

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HPS lights for veg work is too much light.

Second those girls need some minerals - use some seaweed - light spray feeding and water in - use 1/4 strength for spray and 1/2 for water. Along with a 1/2 dose of some balanced fertilizer - don't overdo the nitro part in the fertilizer.

Next day or two keep watering with fertilizer lightly maybe 1/4 dose and perhaps another spray feeding of seaweed in 4-5 days and keep lightly incorporate seaweed into almost all waterings - say 1/8 strength after the first few days of heavier feeding.

Also give them less light for a few days until they get their strength back.
 

Cannabis.Is.Free

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HPS lights for veg work is too much light.

Second those girls need some minerals - use some seaweed - light spray feeding and water in - use 1/4 strength for spray and 1/2 for water. Along with a 1/2 dose of some balanced fertilizer - don't overdo the nitro part in the fertilizer.

Next day or two keep watering with fertilizer lightly maybe 1/4 dose and perhaps another spray feeding of seaweed in 4-5 days and keep lightly incorporate seaweed into almost all waterings - say 1/8 strength after the first few days of heavier feeding.

Also give them less light for a few days until they get their strength back.
I have to disagree strongly.
If anything HPS would be lighter on plants than an MH.(Heat being the only real issue, HPS put out more heat than MH)
People do seed to harvest in HPS's only.


the only issue is he hasn't fed them yet is all.
 

Cannabis.Is.Free

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Runoff is what comes out of your pots after you water. You can ph and see the ppm as well.
Correct, but if you do this, please make sure you test both.
I made the mistake of just testing run off as my base to getting things fixed, ended up making things worse for a few days.

Now I test both run off and container and average it out.
 

BestDirt

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HPS lights too close will burn the plants. They are young and tender. I am not sure what watts or how far but much easier to burn with HPS.

Second point is for sure they need fertilizer. Problem is giving them fertilizer and asking them to grow immediately is not good. They need to soak up those nutrients and then give them more light but for now move away some. Don't take out but ease up on those lights a little.
I have to disagree strongly.
If anything HPS would be lighter on plants than an MH.(Heat being the only real issue, HPS put out more heat than MH)
People do seed to harvest in HPS's only.


the only issue is he hasn't fed them yet is all.
Agree on feeding but disagree on HPS for seedlings but it can be done but you just be careful with exposure - getting too close.

My statement about HPS was not correct though and HPS lights generally work best for flowering but this 430 watt HPS works very well for both - I know I have used but started plants under florescent lights and slowly worked them into HPS much more lumens especially the bulb I used some 58,000 lumens for 430 watt HPS. This HPS light has more blue than most, nice bulb.

http://www.usa.lighting.philips.com/pwc_li/us_en/connect/tools_literature/downloads/p-2707b.pdf

MH lights work well for vegetative work

T5 lights best for seedlings

And yes he needs fertilizer but also needs trace elements and minerals.
 
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