HELP!!! PLEASE why do my buds bud like this?

DADSGROW

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been in flowering for almost 10 weeks.
water only for the last 2
light 13 hours on 11 off.
lighting 2750 cool watt per pair
8 lights total.
ANY HELP IS APPRECIATED!
what am i doing wrong? what do i need to do?
the plants are sativas
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PSUAGRO.

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Is that BF's Drgrinspoon:P..........yeah too much N, the claws are crazy.......flush with water double the size of your container(4g of water for 2g container/etc)
 

eDude

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Nitrogen will not do that to a plant.

Try 12 hours of dark next time..

What is that lighting? Fluorescent? You'd do much better with and HID and like SC says. Get a fast flowering indica.
 

eDude

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Looks like nitrogen toxicity to me........too much nitrogen can delay flowering...

Nitrogen might offset ripening. Not really flowering. Flowering is not controlled by the food. It's controlled by hormones that are triggered by dark periods.
 

PSUAGRO.

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Too much nitrogen at an early flowering stage WILL SLOW down bud growth......an NH4 toxicity( probably using chem ferts) will show the claw effect on large fan leaves and new growth will be twisted.........this is a classic case IMO
 

jcdws602

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Nitrogen might offset ripening. Not really flowering. Flowering is not controlled by the food. It's controlled by hormones that are triggered by dark periods.
Nitrogen (N) is a major component of proteins, hormones, chlorophyll, vitamins and enzymes essential for plant life. Nitrogen metabolism is a major factor in stem and leaf growth (vegetative growth). Too much nitrogen can delay or prevent flowering, while deficiencies can cause yellowing of the leaves and stunted growth.

Also I have noticed that too much nitrogen will cause internodes to stretch so flower clusters cannot stack in tight clusters....of course this is strain dependent (how N sensitive).....but by the looks of the op's plants that is what is occurring.....
 

hydrosoil78

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2750 cool watt per pair? sounds like cfls. maybe you can get baked off it, if not get different gentics and re think the grow space
 

fro77

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start over bro throw that shit away you have ben blooming for 8 weeks and just now seeked help??
 

MrGhettoGrower

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You could post a better pic I have bad eyes but it's looking tropical like you had high heat & high humidity you seen my first grow 8 plants I had 2 males didn't pull'em I thought it was good and was shaking them~
 

eDude

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Nitrogen (N) is a major component of proteins, hormones, chlorophyll, vitamins and enzymes essential for plant life. Nitrogen metabolism is a major factor in stem and leaf growth (vegetative growth). Too much nitrogen can delay or prevent flowering, while deficiencies can cause yellowing of the leaves and stunted growth.

Also I have noticed that too much nitrogen will cause internodes to stretch so flower clusters cannot stack in tight clusters....of course this is strain dependent (how N sensitive).....but by the looks of the op's plants that is what is occurring.....

The last part is right.

The N info you've given is from something like this and for most 'regular plants' it is correct.

I found it here. http://www.geraniumsonline.com/nutrition.htm

MJ is different. MJ uses something called "photoperiodism" and it's when flowers are induced into flower by light deprivation. You know when you got 12 on and 12 off. These are called "short day" plants.

If you give them 12 hours of dark. It will flower. No matter what. Flower set might be elongated and weak but it will flower.
 

jcdws602

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In this case we're not talking about too much N causing flower prevention.....just delayed flowering and elongated growth....I just realized that your trying to imply that 13-11 light cycle is what caused his plants to grow the way they did? right.........but that's wrong....lots of people use 13/11 cycle with no problems........without all the other variables the op hasn't included I cannot say for 100% that too much N is the prob......but judging by the pics that is what happened...too much nutrients....especially N......I've had a handful of strains do and look exactly the same as the op's......my soil mix was too hot......also the op did not have enough light intensity which definitely attributed to the prob.....the more intense the light the more plant vigor....making it consume more nutrients......which it could not in this case.....
 

bamacheese

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In my opinion, the 13/11 light cycle is completely the problem. Plants are extremely sensitive, so much that they detect the exact time of summer solstice (first day of exactly 12/12) and trigger flowering enzymes that same day. 12 hours of darkness is absolutely essential, if anything, run it 11 hours light and 13 hours darkness. Switch your light cycle to 12/12, how nature intended it to be.
 

jcdws602

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Plants especially these plants are not that sensitive as a lot of newbs would think.....1 hour wont cause that/you really think that a perfect 12/12 cycle occurs everywhere in nature ....plus look at all the fan leaves ,way too green & the "claw" like curling, leaf tips are burnt.....all signs of N toxicity.......
 

MajorCoco

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I'm thinking that the main problem might be your lighting. When you say 2750 cool watts it does sound like you are using cfl, which makes me wonder if you are really running 8x300 watt CFLs. I doubt it, as you would probably be using HID if that were the actual wattage.

If you are using 8x23W bulbs then that would give you less than 200W...and just CFL watts too...!

My guess is that you may have confused the color temperature of the lights with the wattage. If you are running a sativa dom in anything less than 400W then that would be my first suspect for why your buds look so thin.

Can you double check the wattage of your lights...just in case

Edit: On second look, it does look as if you could have some nute problems too, although I'd be amazed if that was the main issue....so I'll wait to hear what you actual system wattage is before commenting further!
 

polyarcturus

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its genetic i had a plant that grew perfectly but every clone and the original all looked like that very potent tho. it was a BF blue chesse(RIP) i would not attribute it to your grow skill
 

Shivaskunk

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its genetic i had a plant that grew perfectly but every clone and the original all looked like that very potent tho. it was a BF blue chesse(RIP) i would not attribute it to your grow skill

Looks a lot like a pheno i got from crossing Chronic strain with shiva skunk a few times. the whole plant just had single or double calyxes up and down all the branches and meristem. Do you have calyx like in your picture running down the stalk too? Very well could be a mutant. I finished the one I had and just rolled joints from it..was nice smoke-
 
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