platypusmann
Well-Known Member
Sorry this is so long, but I am trying to be thorough.
I am a newb, with a few ebb & flow grows under my belt. I moved at the end of last year, and went from having a 4'x4'x11' closet to having a full room to use..the room is 15'x17'x9'.
I had very few problems in my closet. I ran 3 crops to the end, and a 4th that got root rot from res temps and organic nutes, and went to making hash & butter.
Since I moved and set up my room, I have been plagued with troubles. DWC that went bad really fast and got scrapped and now my current issue.
Please, anyone with experience, HELP ME FIGURE OUT WHAT IS WRONG!!!.
I have 6 Nirvana Hindu Kush in a 3'x3' ebb & flow table. They are in 1' rockwool cubes in 6" nursery pots full of hydroton. The rockwool is 1" above the flood line.
The 10 gallon res is filled with aged tap w/ 35% H2O2 added @ 1.7ml/L. Res also has 4 air stones running 24/7 for aeration.
Res pH is ~5.8, with swings between 5.6 and 6.0 being as drastic a change as I have had in pH.
Res TDS is 148.
Res temp has not exceeded 63f. I use frozen water bottles to keep the temp down, if I have to.
Room temp is ~73 lights on and ~60 lights off.
Humidity is kept between 45 and 55%.
Table get flooded 3xdaily for 5 mins.
Light is a Sunmaster cool deluxe 600w MH in a Sunsoaker hood. It runs 18/6 and is 20" from tops of plants.
Three oscillating fans run 24/7, blowing on the plants all the time.
As I said the room is 14'x17'x9'. The table is open to the room on three sides, with the walled side being covered with mylar.
The seedlings were germinated in the rockwool cubes under two 42 watt CFL's at 24/7 lighting schedule.
When the roots were coming out of the cubes and the first real leaf set had formed (about 3 days after they sprouted), I put them into the pots and under the MH.
I top fed them plain pH 5.8 aged tap water for three days, then started their current flood schedule.
This was 11 days ago that they strtaed feeding from the bottom, 14 days since being put under the MH, and 17 days since sprouting.....19 from seed.
All 6 plants are still only 1 to 2" tall. They all have second leaf sets, but no sign of third. They just are not growing uwards.
I checked their roots and all 6 have at least 10 roots tendrils coming 2 to 3" out of the bottom of the cubes. These roots are thick and white.
I have tried misting the plants with pH 5.6 distilled water for the past three days, and it has not done any good. They are still not growing. They have not grown at all in 6 days, other than the exisiting leaves have gotten slightly wide.
The leaves have a definite light green cast, and not the rich green I am looking for.
The cotyledons are dead or dying, and the first leaf set are curling downwards.
By 11 days under HID lights, my experience is an average of 6" plants, and maybe even on their 5th node. These look like 3 day old sick seedlings with good roots. WTF???
ANYONE GOT ANY IDEA HOW TO MAKE MY PLANTS TAKE OFF!!!!
I am willing to listen.
PLEASE??????
ppm
I am a newb, with a few ebb & flow grows under my belt. I moved at the end of last year, and went from having a 4'x4'x11' closet to having a full room to use..the room is 15'x17'x9'.
I had very few problems in my closet. I ran 3 crops to the end, and a 4th that got root rot from res temps and organic nutes, and went to making hash & butter.
Since I moved and set up my room, I have been plagued with troubles. DWC that went bad really fast and got scrapped and now my current issue.
Please, anyone with experience, HELP ME FIGURE OUT WHAT IS WRONG!!!.
I have 6 Nirvana Hindu Kush in a 3'x3' ebb & flow table. They are in 1' rockwool cubes in 6" nursery pots full of hydroton. The rockwool is 1" above the flood line.
The 10 gallon res is filled with aged tap w/ 35% H2O2 added @ 1.7ml/L. Res also has 4 air stones running 24/7 for aeration.
Res pH is ~5.8, with swings between 5.6 and 6.0 being as drastic a change as I have had in pH.
Res TDS is 148.
Res temp has not exceeded 63f. I use frozen water bottles to keep the temp down, if I have to.
Room temp is ~73 lights on and ~60 lights off.
Humidity is kept between 45 and 55%.
Table get flooded 3xdaily for 5 mins.
Light is a Sunmaster cool deluxe 600w MH in a Sunsoaker hood. It runs 18/6 and is 20" from tops of plants.
Three oscillating fans run 24/7, blowing on the plants all the time.
As I said the room is 14'x17'x9'. The table is open to the room on three sides, with the walled side being covered with mylar.
The seedlings were germinated in the rockwool cubes under two 42 watt CFL's at 24/7 lighting schedule.
When the roots were coming out of the cubes and the first real leaf set had formed (about 3 days after they sprouted), I put them into the pots and under the MH.
I top fed them plain pH 5.8 aged tap water for three days, then started their current flood schedule.
This was 11 days ago that they strtaed feeding from the bottom, 14 days since being put under the MH, and 17 days since sprouting.....19 from seed.
All 6 plants are still only 1 to 2" tall. They all have second leaf sets, but no sign of third. They just are not growing uwards.
I checked their roots and all 6 have at least 10 roots tendrils coming 2 to 3" out of the bottom of the cubes. These roots are thick and white.
I have tried misting the plants with pH 5.6 distilled water for the past three days, and it has not done any good. They are still not growing. They have not grown at all in 6 days, other than the exisiting leaves have gotten slightly wide.
The leaves have a definite light green cast, and not the rich green I am looking for.
The cotyledons are dead or dying, and the first leaf set are curling downwards.
By 11 days under HID lights, my experience is an average of 6" plants, and maybe even on their 5th node. These look like 3 day old sick seedlings with good roots. WTF???
ANYONE GOT ANY IDEA HOW TO MAKE MY PLANTS TAKE OFF!!!!
I am willing to listen.
PLEASE??????
ppm