Yea from seed. The seeds are from growerschoiceseeds and so far terrible. Bad germination rate and i grew 3 gorilla glue autos that all looked different. Lol same with the bubble gum. So it wouldnt surprise me if they just sent me whatever seeds they had laying around. The only strain so far that has even grew decent was the afghan. Out of gorilla glue, bubble gum, northern lights and afghan all from them.