Help with growing

Kevii

Active Member
I felt like learning how to grow one of my favorite things. Anyways i was looking into something easier and cheaper than most of the huge setups. Maybe 1 - 2 plants max. Should i use soil or Hydroponics? If i go hydroponics i can do more plants since seeds come in packs of 10 anyways. I was looking around for a cheap hydroponic set? I found SH Hydroponics > DWC Basic Kit
What do you guys think? Or should i go with soil and pot?
 

mogie

Well-Known Member
For some starting out soil is the most forgiving medium to grow in.

Part 1 Contributed by: Bongaloid
Part 2 : Bush_Grower

First time growers frequently:
Overwater their medium based plants. When you pot your plant, judge its weight dry by hefting. Then, water the plant thoroughly, until water runs through the drain holes. Heft it again. When your pot feels as nearly as light as it did dry, its time to water again. Overfeed their plants. As MrSoul says, beginners rarely under do anything. When all else fails, follow the directions on the fertilizer bottle. [Editor's note: dont follow GH's instructions! Use @ 1/4 their recommended strength, or follow recipes in the FAQ]
Overanalyze their grow. A first grow is like a first born child: you pay attention to every little thing that happens. Further, you worry at the first sign something may be wrong. Pay attention to what happens in your grow, but do not try and find a remedy for every yellow leaf. Frequently, the remedy of flushing your medium causes more problems than it solves. Be responsive when things go wrong, but be conservative in your remedies.
Overspend on grow supplies. New growers frequently commit themselves to unrealistic and expensive first grows. It is much more efficient to learn to grow and then invest in high end equipment rather than the other way around. Most experienced growers don't have room for all of the grow paraphernalia they aren't using. As you will see throughout this FAQ: K-I-S-S.
Overpost. Try the search engine first. Chances are good that any question you can think of has been asked and answered before.
Talk about their grow. Don't tell anybody that does not have to know. How can you expect anybody else to keep a secret that you cannot.
Part 2:
Contributed by: Bush_Grower
1. Don't Overwater
Overwatering kills marijuana plants. Water once the top few inches of the soil dries out.
Hydroponics is harder to over-water than soil, due to the abundance of water roots.
2. Don't Tell People
Why? They will only be jealous. People love to feel important and that is why they will tell other people; because others will listen to them.
Keep it to yourself.
3. Touch/kill Germinating Seeds
It can take up to 10 days for a seed to sprout. The paper towel method is not recommended because you must handle the seeds when transferring them from the paper towel to your growing medium.
4. Grow seeds from seeded marijuana (hermaphrodite seeds)
Unless you are prepared for possible disappointments don’t use "unknown" seeds. This is why people buy seeds from seedbanks.
Self-seeding MJ is produced from hermaphrodite plants or a very stunted and late flowering male the grower did not notice. Flowered hermi seeds will produce tall late flowering females coupled with early flowering males.
5. Don't Over-fertilize
Fertilize after first 2 spiked leaves appear.
Start with 25% of recommended label strengths and work your way up. If the leaves suddenly twist or fold under, Leach and Spray with pure water for several days!
Don’t fertilize your plants every time you water! (Soil)
A common watering schedule is to fertilize at full strength, then water at half or quarter strength. This prevents excess salt buildup, leaf and root burn. In addition, don’t water at full strength if the medium is too dry – root burn can occur.
As a precaution, leach the plants with lots of pure water every 2-4 weeks.
6. Don't Under-fertilize
Under-fertilizing is less common. If you prefer to give the plant ‘just enough nutrients’, use a organic soil mixture with blood meal and bone meal or some slow release fertilizer with micro nutrients.
7. Don't Start with Clones
Start with seeds. Bugs are a pain, as are plant diseases. Many growers are able to grow indoors without pest problems for years. Another grower’s cuttings are almost guaranteed to have diseases &/or pests.
8. Don't Provide A Bad Environment
Always provide air circulation and fresh air even during the night cycle. All the air indoors should be replaced every 5-10 minutes.
Humidity between 30-70% temp aim for around 75-85' Even seedlings need a gentle fan to strengthen the stems.
9. Don't Harvest Too Early
25% of the weight will form in the last 2 weeks. Begin flushing with 100% pH’d water when the pistil are 25% brown. Harvest when the plants have totally stopped growing and the white pistils are at least 50-75% brown.
*NOTE: Outdoors if security is a factor make your own call on when to sacrifice the fields. Also take buds continuously in case of thieves.

Common questions:
Q. Can marijuana grow in a northern climate?
Marijuana plants can grow anywhere corn can grow. All it needs is three growing months - seed to harvest. 2 if started indoors!

Q. Why do I have to buy seeds? Why can't I use my own that I picked from my own stash?
Most people desire, and want to be guaranteed, certain characteristics in their mature female plants. The seeds from any weed will all grow into something different. This is unprofitable and inefficient. As opposed to knowing the single set of requirements for your entire crop, you must provide a different set of requirements for each of your plants.

Q. What is better for a new grower - hydroponics or soil?
I believe the all around "better", more convenient setup is soil. Hydro makes plants grow faster, but won't make your buds more potent than soil. Hydro should be attempted after you have a few successful soil crops under your belt.
If you are starting from seed and growing for personal, soil is the practical growing medium. If the crop is started with clones and is commercial, a hydroponics setup is more practical.

Q. Why are my seedlings stretching?
Low light conditions. They also need a gentle wind. Plants will also stretch when subjected to conditions of high humidity.

Q. What kind of lights should I use?
Cheap 4 ft. cool white fluorescent tubes : for germination/seedlings
400 watt Metal halide/HPS : for personal home growers
1000 watt Metal halide/HPS : for some personal growers and commercial growers.
*Use at least 40 watts per sq. foot of grow space.

Q. How far should the lights be from the plants?
Fluorescent: tips of leaves almost touching bulbs
400 watt halide : two feet away from seedlings and one foot away from grown plants
1000 watt halide: four feet away from seedlings and two feet away from grown plants
 

VictorVIcious

Well-Known Member
That looks like a nice little set up. I would suggest if you go that route buy good testing equipment and test your nute solution daily. Research a lot while your waiting for it, and keep reading as you see things develop
 

Kevii

Active Member
Well since this is for a personal thing i guess ill take a try at soil. But looking at the how to grow guide is overwhelming with all the lights etc...
 

skunkushybrid

New Member
Take it a step at a time. Growing in soil is easy. Cannabis is a hardy plant, and soil will forgive most of your mistakes.

There will be plenty of help on this site. Just ask, and you will be informed.
 

Godkas

Well-Known Member
If you want a simple one check out my box (its in my profile) I have spent like $20 bucks on my grow so far.
 

VictorVIcious

Well-Known Member
Information overload is pretty common.lol one of the books I bought spent a few pages talking about perth water in Australia. Interesting, but not useful.
All of us see things from our perspective and we want others to be successful, so we try to talk them through it from germination to harvest, right away. We probably all need to learn to spoon feed, like you do with a baby. Give them one spoonful, wait until thats all absorbed before giving another spoonful.
 

Kevii

Active Member
Alright thanks for all the help. Im gonna try to look for some seeds in the buds i have first and try to harvest those instead of buying them :) Update the thread once theyre germinated
 

VictorVIcious

Well-Known Member
I recently started using "Rapid Rooters" for my clones and seeds. I found them much easier to use than rockwool cubes. In my area they are available for under $20.00 including a tray. They already have everything in them you need for good early root development. I put clones in them and had roots out the sides in 9 days. I wish I would have used them first.:?
 

skunkushybrid

New Member
I recently started using "Rapid Rooters" for my clones and seeds. I found them much easier to use than rockwool cubes. In my area they are available for under $20.00 including a tray. They already have everything in them you need for good early root development. I put clones in them and had roots out the sides in 9 days. I wish I would have used them first.:?
Are you sure you haven't changed the environment for your clones? You should achieve equally satisfying results in rockwool.
 

VictorVIcious

Well-Known Member
yep I'm sure. I didn't say they were better, although i believe they are, I said they were easier. You don't have to soak them in ph'd water and you don't have to break them apart. I think its easier for us newbies.
 

Kevii

Active Member
I think i might use the bottom part of my TV shelf as a grow room. ill take a pic once i get my camera back to show you guys. But its kind of cold lately so i think i need some lights..
 

jondoe69

Active Member
Go with Soil...as others have said, much easier for the newbie. Soil is so forgiving....too much or too little..the soil will allow you to screw up and not worry too much. Good luck with your grow.
 

skunkushybrid

New Member
yep I'm sure. I didn't say they were better, although i believe they are, I said they were easier. You don't have to soak them in ph'd water and you don't have to break them apart. I think its easier for us newbies.
Ideally, you should get your first signs of root after 3-5 days.

What do you mean break them apart? I've never had to break open a rockwool cube.
 
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