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UncleJohnsBrand

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  • Hi guys.

    My name is John. I want to start growing. Let me give you the run down. If you see anything I need to know about please fill me in. I have done a lot of homework on this.

    Ok. I live in Michigan. I can get a Medical marijuana license and start growing 12 plants. I live in about a 500 sq foot apartment. I will have around $20000 cash from student loans in Feb for my first grow. I want to cash crop and sell to dispensaries here in Michigan. I have looked into the following.

    For seeds I choose Afghan Kush special. This is recomended as being the easiest to grow for begginers on this forum. It has a high potency and yield of about 400 g per sq meter. Which is roughly what I am going to be doing with twelve plant. The space I will grow in is an 8x8 dining room. Open air and in the corner is a window. The drafty window provides negative air pressure in the grow space. It will be partially closed off by hanging drop cloths to contain the enviroment and allow for temp and humidity controll and make a square grow room. It will be semi open air enviroment. Next door to me where my grow room is there is no apartment. But I am still going to seal the door so it doesn't smell in the hall way. I will also invest in three air purifiers to keep the smell down. Smell is also the reason for the semi closed enviroment.

    I have choosen an automatic humidifier. A dehumidifier. Growth Medium (Fox Farms dirt or Super soil by scotts). I will water them by hand since I don't have the money to create an automated system. The lighting will be two Virtual Sun 1,0000 watt system for a floor coverage of 12 sq feet. It is a complete set with timer and ballist. It comes with both MH and HPS bulbs. And a dimmer setting for seedlings. I know how to germinate a seedling. I know the hand rule for lighting. That if the back of your hand is warm not hot then the lights are far enough from your plants. I plan on watering when the plant soil feels dry. So I won't over water them early on. Instead of watering them when they don't need it I will follow observation. I am going to seal my door.

    I know that when you first start the plant the temp should be about 72 degrees. Humidity should be about 60% from what I have read in the Veg stage. In the flowering stage it will be down as low as I can get it. Low 30s I hope. In the final stages the pistals of the bud become milky and that is how you know it is ready for 12/12 light phase for flowering. I choose all in one potting soil since I want a just add water medium. Since I am inexperienced at Nutrients and don't want to over complicate things on my first grow.

    I am trying to produce quality easy to grow bud. I have no connections to dispensaries. I need this to work ,and work well, the first time. I am a student working at Walmart. I want to continue my pursuit of a music degree and not have to work while I go to school. I want to take my girlfriend to Paris in the summer. I want to make as much money as I can per crop to get there.

    Ok guys, you are the experts. Help me be my girls prince charming and wisk a working girl off to her dream. I am her everything. Also I have given up alchol. IT IS POISON! I love my sweet Herb so dam much....On our first date I asked if she smoked. We got high together and had the best first date ever...I knew she was the one when she said she loved Herb.​




 
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althor

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Look, put the idea of cash cropping to the side for your first few batches. Check out some of the other newbie posts and pictures and consider whether you would be willing to spend your money on their crops.... You are going to need some real experience before you can start competing with experienced growers who are already selling to dispensaries.

If this is your break out idea,you might want to refine it, a lot.
 
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UncleJohnsBrand

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This is no get rich quick idea. I want to become a real cash cropper. If it takes time then cool but I want to get there. I am getting a job as a music teacher. It pays well and will keep me going. But I want to for fill a dream of growing and taking my girl to Paris. Yes it is my break out idea. If it takes time then so be it. I have time. But that is why I am enlisting the help of others. I know I can't learn this all on my own. Drop some links that might help?

If being a cash cropper out the box is unrealistic then I will work towards becoming one. I just want my first grow to be good.
 
junker1

junker1

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UncleJohnsBrand said:

  • Hi guys.

    My name is John. I want to start growing. Let me give you the run down. If you see anything I need to know about please fill me in. I have done a lot of homework on this.

    Ok. I live in Michigan. I can get a Medical marijuana license and start growing 12 plants. I live in about a 500 sq foot apartment. I will have around $20000 cash from student loans in Feb for my first grow. I want to cash crop and sell to dispensaries here in Michigan. I have looked into the following.

    For seeds I choose Afghan Kush special. This is recomended as being the easiest to grow for begginers on this forum. It has a high potency and yield of about 400 g per sq meter. Which is roughly what I am going to be doing with twelve plant. The space I will grow in is an 8x8 dining room. Open air and in the corner is a window. The drafty window provides negative air pressure in the grow space. It will be partially closed off by hanging drop cloths to contain the enviroment and allow for temp and humidity controll and make a square grow room. It will be semi open air enviroment. Next door to me where my grow room is there is no apartment. But I am still going to seal the door so it doesn't smell in the hall way. I will also invest in three air purifiers to keep the smell down. Smell is also the reason for the semi closed enviroment.

    I have choosen an automatic humidifier. A dehumidifier. Growth Medium (Fox Farms dirt or Super soil by scotts). I will water them by hand since I don't have the money to create an automated system. The lighting will be two Virtual Sun 1,0000 watt system for a floor coverage of 12 sq feet. It is a complete set with timer and ballist. It comes with both MH and HPS bulbs. And a dimmer setting for seedlings. I know how to germinate a seedling. I know the hand rule for lighting. That if the back of your hand is warm not hot then the lights are far enough from your plants. I plan on watering when the plant soil feels dry. So I won't over water them early on. Instead of watering them when they don't need it I will follow observation. I am going to seal my door.

    I know that when you first start the plant the temp should be about 72 degrees. Humidity should be about 60% from what I have read in the Veg stage. In the flowering stage it will be down as low as I can get it. Low 30s I hope. In the final stages the pistals of the bud become milky and that is how you know it is ready for 12/12 light phase for flowering. I choose all in one potting soil since I want a just add water medium. Since I am inexperienced at Nutrients and don't want to over complicate things on my first grow.

    I am trying to produce quality easy to grow bud. I have no connections to dispensaries. I need this to work ,and work well, the first time. I am a student working at Walmart. I want to continue my pursuit of a music degree and not have to work while I go to school. I want to take my girlfriend to Paris in the summer. I want to make as much money as I can per crop to get there.

    Ok guys, you are the experts. Help me be my girls prince charming and wisk a working girl off to her dream. I am her everything. Also I have given up alchol. IT IS POISON! I love my sweet Herb so dam much....On our first date I asked if she smoked. We got high together and had the best first date ever...I knew she was the one when she said she loved Herb.​
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John, OOPS I SEE YOUR ABOVE POST, GLAD YOU GET THE IDEA

I aint here to bust your bubble. but the part about not working and going to Paris, throw all that shit right out the fucken window. That shit isn't happening any time soon. Continue with your education and get your degree. I believe that it takes years for a grower to become proficient enough to sustain a good lifestyle. You seem to be a Knowledgeable person, shit you capitalized Paris, that shows some smarts, but when it comes to growing MJ you will never stop learning. It is an art, It has to be in your blood. If you are only doing it for the cash you will be very disappointed for the first year at least. You say you have $20k to invest? Invest it in your education. Now I aint saying its not possible just be prepared for it to take a while before your are truly AHEAD of the game cash wise.
Good luck
 
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UncleJohnsBrand

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Ok, I am hearing you guys loud and clear. The one thing I can't buy or learn right now is experience. Can I at least get some help to make some money? I want to grow for the love, as well as the money. Even if I can't get a lot of it I want to make a second income with it. I can switch to Dutch Passion's The Ultimate. It has a forum report of around a hundred grams per plant. It is super easy to grow from what I understand as well. Or am I just out gunned and have no hope of making money at all? If it takes time to make money fine with me. But shouldn't I be able to make something on my first crop? If it takes a year to save up and go to Paris fine then. I need help with the technical from you guys.
 
GrowinDad

GrowinDad

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Start out with a small grow, don't spend 20k, and then do with the weed as you please. It is hard to fathom combining "I want easy, just add water, and make money" into one strategic plan because that isn't how it works.

Read up, come with a game plan for a set up (my rec is try 5 plants at most), ask some specific questions, and get a few successful grows under your belt with a system you feel at one with before expandingor getting grandiose. it is a hobby and an art. i have been homebrewing for over a decade and i still wouldn't say I am ready to open a brewpub.
 
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althor

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We can help you make it through your first grow, but we can't help you "make some money".

Like the above poster said, start small. 3-6 plants. Make it to the end. After that you will have a much better understanding of what is going on and will probably come back here to try and delete this thread.
 
junker1

junker1

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well it all depends on what you call making money? It would all depend on your yield vs expenses. your initial costs for lights, pots and every thing else and then your reoccurring expenses soils, nutes, electricity etc. put all those together and you need to grow a couple of pounds to just break even. So no you will not be making money your first harvest. you will be paying yourself back the money you invested.
 
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UncleJohnsBrand

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So lets say I spend $2,000 on 12 plants. I grow Dutch Passion seed companies The Ultimate. And I try and form connections with in the dispensaries. I am trying to simplify things so it works and there is less error in my first grow. The Ultimate has field reports of growing large amounts (6-9 hundred grams per sq m) at around %15-%19 THC. Can I aim to make $2,000 a crop? If I start small it is realistic to go from there. $20,000 was a mistake I meant $2,000.
 
GrowinDad

GrowinDad

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You won't yield what is advertised. Assume 1-1.5 oz per plant dried and trimmed as a novice IMHO. i have no idea what dispensaries pay in MI. In CA, I believe it is $500-600 per pound but could be way off. I am on the east coast and grow strictly personal.

This is like any other industry. You are competing against established people with expertise. TANSTAAFL - there ain't no such thing as a free lunch, not that that is what you are implying, just seemed appropriate. You have nothing special to offer so you will be a commodity to the coop.

The finances of investment paid off for me to learn because i was buying at street prices. First grow with 5+ oz covered all capital expense. But when selling at wholesale, it is a different story. Needless to say,legalization will make it harder for the small guy to compete and that is already happening.
 
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bluerock

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You are making a lot of assumptions that likely have no basis in fact. The first and biggest error is assuming that any given batch of seeds is going to live up to the advertisements. They won't. Secondly, quality is almost always inversely proportional to quantity. I have been at this for a while and have yet to find a top notch pheno that is also a big yielder. Thirdly, I can't imagine dispensaries paying top dollar for mids, if they would even consider buying them. Finding a clone that they will want to buy the produce from is a mandatory starting point and more important than any other factor. In my view, you must work from clones and can forget about seeds for anything other than a pheno hunt.

If you want to go to school without working, I think you would need to grow outdoors...but note that it is probably a lot more "work" than anything you will do at Walmart.
 
Chronic Masterbator

Chronic Masterbator

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If you want to grow primo start with bag seed first. Get the hang of it learn their quirks. Get a good grow book. Don't expect to be spoon fed Info here. Oh and don't count Yer dollars yet. That way Yer expectations aren't shot down.

Oh and do yerself and Yer clients a favor get bomb clones. Or pheno hunt through seed packs. Not the cheap ones you'll get what you pay for. See if Yer school offers botany or gardening courses. And most of all practice practice practice
 
dadio161

dadio161

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remember. When you start growing thinking you can sell and make money , there is a thousand other growers with killer buds trying to undersell you. Everybody and their brother wants to grow for a living. You need to learn to grow first. If you do decide to grow a large crop to make money , you can be robbed by idiots or busted by the Feds.
 
Doritos

Doritos

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iuts easy brahs just plant like 1000 plant and tey each make like a pound and sell 1000 pounds for like 4000 that's like $4,000,000 or something good
 
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