hermie good or bad?

smokersdream5618

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I just had the worst luck and crop ive ever dealt with in 15 years of cultivating. I believe it was grey mold which began after my timer had become faulty on twelve and twelve which also made my new seed plants ( sense star) to become hermaphrodites and it spread all over my own breed I call sugar that were also started from seeds since I had to move and leave the p1 behind w a friend. I have seeds from both strains from the herm but no selfies. Should I try to use these seeds obtained by being pollination from a herm to female or start over. I plan on getting a new strain or two anyway and would like to ask if someone could tell me of some strains that are pretty resistant to bacteria and viruses, have a sweet flavor, high yield, and finish in 8 weeks. Thank you in advance.
 
malicifice

malicifice

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Try pineapple express from g13 lab's, it's got all your looking for. So the sense star hermied, and that pollenated your "sugar" if I'm reading that right? Then I would guess that the "sugar" is now full of basically regular seed's. I don't know somebody else may know better but I'm not totally on board with hermied seed's make hermie plant's. Especially since that hermied pollen got on the female sugar.
 
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[QUactually they femanize "malicifice, post: 10426994, member: 290107"]Try pineapple express from g13 lab's, it's got all your looking for. So the sense star hermied, and that pollenated your "sugar" if I'm reading that right? Then I would guess that the "sugar" is now full of basically regular seed's. I don't know somebody else may know better but I'm not totally on board with hermied seed's make hermie plant's. Especially since that hermied pollen got on the female sugar.[/QUOTE]
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smokersdream5618

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I do know changes to your light cycle will make the ladies turn hermie and they use herms to feminize seeds. But today was informed told all females have the gene to be hermies. Was also told hermie plants do not pass male genes. They still didn't explain if the plant would be more likely to turn from girls to herm. Im really studying up on genetics now but the seed banks are using a system from 1981. So I need fresh studies you know.
 
smokersdream5618

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Thank you for our input on the strains. Can you recommend any that has areal sweet and sskinny flavor with same qualities like high yield, finish in eight weeks and tough to kill by something messing up?
 
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malicifice said:
Try pineapple express from g13 lab's, it's got all your looking for. So the sense star hermied, and that pollenated your "sugar" if I'm reading that right? Then I would guess that the "sugar" is now full of basically regular seed's. I don't know somebody else may know better but I'm not totally on board with hermied seed's make hermie plant's. Especially since that hermied pollen got on the female sugar.
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smokersdream5618

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Yeah im confused with them being feminized or not since its not a selfish. If the herm pollinated itselfno problem but it got all the females. The grey mold thing really sucked. Someone could make a lot of money with a good solution to kill that stuff.
 
malicifice

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I've got mold before too during the drying process, live and learn. I'll try to break it down to the best of knowledge. When you use a silver spray like Tiresias mist on a female you have a pretty damn good chance that those seed's are going to be female I would say like 99%. Now if that pollen from that plant is used on any other female plant it will produce feminized seed's. A selfie I guess is what your referring to when a female plant makes that one or two seed's at the very end of her cycle if your lucky. Then yeah in my experience that seed is always a female, 100% of the time. Now when it hermies from stress or bad just bad genetics which may be the case as f2's like the sugar you created take a while to stabilize, if you got that part done than genetics wasn't a factor. I have had plant's hermie on me and when they do I don't even worry about keeping the seed's. Not because of some "hermie gene" but because the genetics of that plant had a flaw in them that caused them to change under stress. The hermied seed would be as weak as it's parent in that sense. Same as the pollen. I would say that your seeded sugar plant might be something good, might not. Grow a few out and keep the best one's, cross your finger's and hope for a female. Repeat as necessary!
 
smokersdream5618

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malicifice said:
I've got mold before too during the drying process, live and learn. I'll try to break it down to the best of knowledge. When you use a silver spray like Tiresias mist on a female you have a pretty damn good chance that those seed's are going to be female I would say like 99%. Now if that pollen from that plant is used on any other female plant it will produce feminized seed's. A selfie I guess is what your referring to when a female plant makes that one or two seed's at the very end of her cycle if your lucky. Then yeah in my experience that seed is always a female, 100% of the time. Now when it hermies from stress or bad just bad genetics which may be the case as f2's like the sugar you created take a while to stabilize, if you got that part done than genetics wasn't a factor. I have had plant's hermie on me and when they do I don't even worry about keeping the seed's. Not because of some "hermie gene" but because the genetics of that plant had a flaw in them that caused them to change under stress. The hermied seed would be as weak as it's parent in that sense. Same as the pollen. I would say that your seeded sugar plant might be something good, might not. Grow a few out and keep the best one's, cross your finger's and hope for a female. Repeat as necessary!
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smokersdream5618

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That was very helpful And I really appreciate it. I will ask my buddy which bank he got the sensi star. I am going to stay away from that bank. Which banks do you recommend that will send to the U.S.?
 
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I may have wrote down the wrong thing on the sugar it is one I got that is an F2 and it is an F4 but that is as far as I go into generations for safety. I get something knew ants the first herm in 8 years.
 
malicifice

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That doesn't mean that sensi star or that bank suck's. There are many factor's that can cause a plant to do that, even the best strain's will turn under enough stress. I personally love attitude seed bank. They are the cheapest, have the most choices, ton's of free seed's and best customer service I've seen. They guarantee shipment if you chose to pay for it. That mean's you are covered no matter what. They will reship over and over and over till you get it or you want a refund. Herbies head shop is also very nice, just like attitude but a little more expensive. Attitude has had a tough time getting past customs lately. Not for every one but for a few of us. Herbies seems to be a little bit better at getting through.
 
ProHuman

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From what I have read to understand, Hermies caused by stress produce seeds that will also be more likely to hermie. It's as if the hermi mother tells it's children, "this is a tough place to thrive, grow both sex organs."
Fem seeds created from applying colloidal silver is more of a chemical sex change, and the seed produced is not from a 'stressed' plant, but rather a chemically altered plant.

As for strains resistant to problems, try some AK-47, Northern Lights, or Jack Herer.
 
smokersdream5618

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I agree with you on the bank not being at fault but when my timer messed up my plants couldn't figure out when it was time for the light to come on or it to be dark in the room. I am thinking towards a super skunk x Big bud or something also. After lookingg at the strains you mentioned.
 
smokersdream5618

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I bet guys that live in Holland get seeds a lot cheaper. I'd like to see about having a wide variety of seeds that way ifI can find ssomeone to trust.
 
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i'd think it would be near impossible to predict if the offspring is going to be a strong hermie risk or not
no shortage of bad experiences mentioned, but some can work out, there could be hiiden gems in the genetics
the problem is the risk of the grow, disaster if 1 she/boy is in the henhouse?
i've grown out some hermie seeds of my own, some have been good and male free, others were less good
 
smokersdream5618

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It takes a good f4 before you get them stable and 95% is caused by stress and makes the lady go into survival mode to have babies. So the real question is which mothers can hold up to the most stress without the herm gene popping out. I have a plan on taking the seeds from my strain that had no herms at all and going to pop the seeds as the f2s that are now seeds has all female chromosomes but it depends on how much stress will pop out the herms. Say I grow 8 seeds im pretty sure I can watch close enough to see if any do at all. My stress came mainly from the faulty timer and it messing up the light cycle it was accustomed to and in that stress and dampness from shock and not sucking up the water caused the mold. I am pretty sure I have a good grasp on it now from everyones input even Mr. Rosenthal had some words of wisdom. I wish I could purchase some strains and maybe do some trading with someone on here for the variety and to help each other out. If I get another breed like I had at one time I'd like to get it out of the U.S. and over to Holland or more bud friendly governments. That way I have a strain in the cup and everyone can get something close from the banks. Im not greedy but do not want to compete against my own strain in my area. I do think it was dynamic and wish We could have shared it with the smokers that appreciate it.
 
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