How Canada can ensure legalized pot trumps the black market

gb123

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This stuff just screams !!!

TOLD YOU SO!!!!!! (:

good luck forcing people to smoke your shwag!!
Rec is the as medical? Your head needs a good shake!


The biggest growers of medical marijuana in Canada want to be first in line when the market for recreational pot opens up, arguing that only they can guarantee a high-quality product that is securely distributed by mail.

The operators of the Canopy Growth Corp. and Tweed Marijuana Inc. want the federal government to shut down the pot dispensaries that are popping up around the country. Instead, they argue, the strictly regulated and licensed firms in the medical field should be the first ones allowed to provide marijuana to recreational users.

The new lobbying campaign is aimed at the top Liberal officials who will devise plans to legalize marijuana in Canada, mainly MP Bill Blair, the former Toronto police chief who is the Trudeau government’s point person on the file.

The firms want Canada to avoid the “wild west” system that exists in some U.S. states, and simply start by expanding the existing model that supplies medical marijuana across the country.

“If the government wants to introduce a controlled system, which they have said they would do, this – or something very similar to this – is the system they will follow,” said Mark Zekulin, president of Tweed Inc.

Located in Smith Falls, southwest of Ottawa, Tweed operates a large medical-marijuana facility in a former chocolate factory. The multimillion-dollar plant is part of a network of facilities owned by the publicly listed Canopy Growth Corp., including one in Mr. Blair’s Scarborough riding.

The CEO of Canopy Growth, Bruce Linton, said his firm produces about 25 per cent of Canada’s supply of medical marijuana.

The Tweed factory is surrounded by fences and razor wire, and includes a vault that can contain 15,000 kilograms of marijuana – worth about $150-million. The thousands of plants in the facility are carefully nurtured, grown without pesticides, slowly dried and tested before being shipped by mail to clients.

Each shipment of marijuana offers a precise percentage of THC and CBDs, the chemicals that offer a buzz but also medical benefits to users.

Mr. Zekulin said recreational users of marijuana deserve the same level of quality as medical users, given the Liberal government’s promise to “legalize, regulate and restrict access” to the drug.

“If you accept as a starting point that you should have secure production, traceability, and keeping it away from criminal elements and out of the hands of children, then you can’t have unregulated shops opening on street corners all over the country where the regulation is, basically, ‘Trust me,’” he said.

Canopy Growth has been working since December with lobbyists from Ensight Canada to persuade the government to start the production of recreational marijuana along the same lines as medical marijuana.

They propose that marijuana be sold to adults who are at least 19 years old, arguing that Canada Post, with its ability to check the age of its clients, should be the first distributor. Over time, according to this proposal, the sale of recreational marijuana could be expanded to provincially regulated outlets that already sell alcohol.

The proposal would limit production of legal marijuana to large facilities, leaving out small shops such as the ones in Colorado that sell their own products.

“In Colorado, they started off with a really open system, and now they are looking for ways to contract the system, based on lessons learned,” Mr. Zekulin said. “We don’t have to go through that process. We can move incrementally and then expand the system.”

Tweed Inc. has plenty of room to expand. The current facility has 12 grow rooms, and the capacity to add another 18. The firm sells its medical product – made up of dried flowers or “buds” – for $6 to $12 a gram. It is working to obtain a licence from Health Canada to sell cannabis oil, which is easier to use for many patients.

Under rules designed by the Conservative government, mail is the only legal way to obtain medical marijuana from one of 27 producers that have been licensed by Health Canada.

Federal Health Minister Jane Philpott said on Thursday in Vancouver that mailing recreational marijuana will remain illegal until the legislation changes.

Jamie Shaw, president of the Canadian Association of Medical Cannabis Dispensaries trade organization, said illegal storefront sales of marijuana have bloomed because the medical-marijuana system “needs to be fixed.”

“If you can prove that there’s a better model for patients, and the public at large, than dispensaries, then great we would have to look at that and support that,” said Ms. Shaw, who works for Canada’s oldest dispensary based in Vancouver.

Under rules designed by the Conservative government, mail is the only legal way to obtain medical marijuana from one of 27 producers that have been licensed by Health Canada.

There are roughly 500,000 medical-cannabis users in Canada over the age of 25, according to a survey commissioned by Health Canada. Fewer than 37,000 people were registered under the federal government’s mail-order medical pot system at the end of last November.

That mean illegal dispensaries and compassion clubs are likely supplying between 100,000 and 200,000 patients, while a remaining 300,000 or so people use the black market, cannabis consultant Eric Nash told The Globe late last year.

Ms. Shaw said she could see licensed producers mailing products, both recreational and medicinal, to those in rural areas under-served by dispensaries.

“The reason we’re behind this dispensary model in the first place is because that is the best model that we’ve got to date,” she said.

With a report from Mike Hager in Vancouver.
 

CannaReview

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Fuck off with the kids shit. Do I have to have a special locked cabinet in my house for alcohol, cigarettes, glue, paint cause Bob JR might get his hands on can of paint and huff on it? Best way to get rid of LP's is to have it like George Smitherman. The underground will flourish and with in two years most LP's will be broke ass.
 
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CannaReview

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i wish they'd get on with the medical problem instead of fear mongering about it going to the kids and who can make $$ in the rec market
Why is that someone involved with a LP's which is for Medical Only is talking and promoting the rec market. That should be some kind of violation of MMPR. LP's should have NO say about the rec market they ARE operating under Marihuana for Medical Purposes Regulations. If they want to be in rec they should have to re-apply for it when/if the rec market is legalized.
 

ttystikk

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Fuck. Colorado is only tightening things up because the big warehouse growers want the market to themselves and hire tons of lobbyists to get their way. Talk about circular logic!

Wasn't legalization supposed to mean that you DON'T break the law or go to jail to grow it?
 

CannaReview

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Wasn't legalization supposed to mean that you DON'T break the law or go to jail to grow it?
Silly plebeian legal marijuana is only for those that have the money to control it. So, so far seems in Canada we have two options. Keep it illegal like its always been or have it legal but you can only smoke it legally if you buy it from a few connected LP's and we'll still send you to jail if you try to grow it.
 

JungleStrikeGuy

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Silly plebeian legal marijuana is only for those that have the money to control it. So, so far seems in Canada we have two options. Keep it illegal like its always been or have it legal but you can only smoke it legally if you buy it from a few connected LP's and we'll still send you to jail if you try to grow it.
Given these options I'd rather it stay illegal, rather than hand over the keys to the industry to slimeballs like Smitherman. The part where the Colorado democrat took a second to compose his thoughts around where people are buying, and Smitherman later goes "SEE!!! SEE!!! THEY DONT KNOW WHERE PEOPLE ARE BUYING IT" is hilarious, as is his 'Well any time you let people grow a plant there's problems'. These guys are such losers.
 

Medipuffs

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i cannot wait until somebody actually does an impartial test of their products in a lab and reveals they are shinning a bunch of unknowing patients on so an investigation of business practices comes to light.

they have no idea what they are doing in regards to the long term health effects of combusting irradiated cannabis nor do they even care to study those effects before putting it into practice.

who is really looking out for your health? I hope patients realize that nobody cares about them if they don't care about themselves first. Be proactive, not reactive.

i don't smoke any cannabis. I eat it 24 hrs a day. honey oil extracts in gel caps made by my hands with my crop. I've been making oil for about 15 years and have a good deal of respect for the process and its safety needs.

before someone tells me im consuming concentrates with solvent residue ill tell you this, once the initial evaporation of alcohol takes place, drop a few milliliters of water into your oil and have it evaporate. the solvent evaporates at a lower temperature than the water therefore once the water is gone so are the solvents leaving you with a nice batch of oil.

this method removes some of the terpenes with the water wash but it cleans the product up perfectly for sake of mind and since im not combusting the oil i don't care if the terpene profile is reduced.

they have medical benefits but are not as prevalent in gel caps in my experience. If i was vaporizing it id turn it into shatter or wax and by pass the water stage for a similarly clean product with a full terpene profile.

long story short, make your own medicine. put the power to heal and help yourself in your hands. be self sufficient and you have nobody to get upset with. I am strong willed and passionate about this because my life depends on it.

I hope we all find sanctuary from pain and inner peace from our suffering, all my brothers and sisters
 

ttystikk

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Given these options I'd rather it stay illegal, rather than hand over the keys to the industry to slimeballs like Smitherman. The part where the Colorado democrat took a second to compose his thoughts around where people are buying, and Smitherman later goes "SEE!!! SEE!!! THEY DONT KNOW WHERE PEOPLE ARE BUYING IT" is hilarious, as is his 'Well any time you let people grow a plant there's problems'. These guys are such losers.
Yes. People can have their freedom, but we will tell them what to do with it. Despicable attitude.
 

torontomeds

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I saw Smitherman at Green Rush only like 1 year after his boyfried/boytoy killed himself, he seemed to have a new boytoy I mean friend, he seems to like em young.
 

torontomeds

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He was walking around Green Rush with his business partner and his toy. He seemed super cocky and he was walking around like king shit, I think he was even looking at me like a piece of meat (Ewww grosss,lol)
 

The Hippy

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He was walking around Green Rush with his business partner and his toy. He seemed super cocky and he was walking around like king shit, I think he was even looking at me like a piece of meat (Ewww grosss,lol)
Did he " wink " your way.....Dead-give-away.
Flaunting a boy toy.....glad I never saw that. Some things can't be unseen.

Like the lineup of knee-droppers for the LP fanboy clubs....yucky !
 

torontomeds

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Did he " wink " your way.....Dead-give-away.
Flaunting a boy toy.....glad I never saw that. Some things can't be unseen.

Like the lineup of knee-droppers for the LP fanboy clubs....yucky !
It more less a wink and more like a look of hunger, lol. LAMO. but on a serious note he totally had his new toy with him.
 

CannaReview

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With the money spent on Conroy would have been better to set up a lobbying group on behalf or MMAR licensees. Couple session of hookers and blow and photo op and wouldn't need to wonder why Phelan hasn't made his decision yet.
 

OGEvilgenius

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Fuck. Colorado is only tightening things up because the big warehouse growers want the market to themselves and hire tons of lobbyists to get their way. Talk about circular logic!

Wasn't legalization supposed to mean that you DON'T break the law or go to jail to grow it?
This is what governments do.
 
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