How to get Qleaner to look like this?

anomolies

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with the pink / purple leaves.. think I read somewhere that is a rare pheno?

Does qleaner have a lot of variation? How come it hasn't been bred to maintain this pheno?
 

subcool

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Its called Organic fade and the how is spelled out in great detail in my diy section.
If you havnt noticed almost all of our strains can look like this if grown properly.

Yes there is lots of subtle variations in my lines thats the point.

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skunkushybrid01

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try stressing her out... maybe offer poor nutrient availability. IMO you don't want purple leaves... green leaves are better at photosynthesis. You're not going to toke on the leaves.

Extra frost can also be gained right at the end by allowing the medium to go very very dry. This causes a plant to go into a drought response and it will produce extra frost. best left till right till the end though. I've found this way to be the least harmful to yield.
 

subcool

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try stressing her out... maybe offer poor nutrient availability. IMO you don't want purple leaves... green leaves are better at photosynthesis. You're not going to toke on the leaves.

Extra frost can also be gained right at the end by allowing the medium to go very very dry. This causes a plant to go into a drought response and it will produce extra frost. best left till right till the end though. I've found this way to be the least harmful to yield.
I disagree with most of this :)
The Color Purple
By Subcool

Purple Cannabis is all the rage in the Nocal clubs and it is highly sought after by both consumers and producers, lets explore this phenomenon and learn some things about Cannabis and Color. Do we see any great demand for purple today? Not in normal things because they’re readily available but when it comes to Purple Pot it’s another story.
Cannabis floral clusters are basically green, but changes may take place later in the season, which alter the color to include various shades. The intense green of chlorophyll usually hides the color of accessory pigments, Chlorophyll starts to loose it’s vibrant green color late in the season and anthocyanin pigments also contained in the tissues are uncovered and the amazing colors are produced at this time. Purple, resulting from anthocyanin accumulation, is extremely common in Cannabis, this color modification is usually triggered by seasonal change, and also can be influenced indoor by a temperature drop of between 20-30 degrees.
Insert Pictures of Purple Cannabis occurring naturally
This does not mean, however, that Purple is controlled by environment alone and it can be passed on genetically. For purple color to develop upon maturation, a strain must have the genetically controlled metabolic potential to make anthocyanin pigments and be responsiveness to environmental change such as cold nighttime temps. This means a strain can have the genetic potential to change color but if conditions never exist you may never know it. I have grown Jacks Cleaner for a long time and when I moved west and it found some dramatically cooler temps I got a nice maroon/ purple coloring at maturity.
Insert Outdoor Purple Picture here or EQ.

There are other pigments that effect the color of mature cannabis for example Carotenoid is largely responsible for the yellow, orange, red, and brown colors in buds. I find this effect is much easier to accomplish in Organics and soil but in order to really call a strain Purple it needs to have more than colored outer leaves and the inner buds need to actually be Purple.



If ya cant find my forum on this site ya not smart enough to grow sorry..

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subcool

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A Brief History of Purple
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Throughout history Purple has been connected with royalty,
why was purple considered the royal color? The answer lies in economics not in aesthetics. Purple is rare in nature. A Toga's worth of Tyrian purple die, about 1.5 grams, required the beating, drying and extracting of mucus from the hypobranchial gland of some twelve thousand Murex mollusks. Legend records the discovery to Herakles, or rather to his dog, whose mouth was stained purple from chewing on snails along the Levantine coast. King Phoenix received a purple-dyed robe from Herakles and decreed the rulers of Phoenicia should wear this color as a royal symbol.
The practice was later adopted by the Romans; to wear purple, therefore, was to show off your great wealth.
 

Brick Top

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Keen colors for sure.

Back some years there was a member of the now long defunct CannabisWorld who did some breeding and had the most amazing colored plants people ever saw. Of course it later came out that he photoshopped his pictures. It was either a friend or someone who worked with him and he and the breeder had a bit of a falling out and he blew the breeder's cover to the members explaining to them why they were so disappointed and unhappy with the strains.

That was a shame since the pictures were really cool .. but most members who grew them complained about them and said they were unquestionably sub-par genetics.

When grown the colors were not as in the pictures used to pimp the strains and yields did not meet the breeder's claims and potency never seemed to equal the strains descriptions, mediocre was a word fairly often used to describe levels of potency.

The breeder always replied the same saying that when he grew them they came out just as he described them and everyone else must have made errors that caused the plants to be more common colors and to not yield well and to not be as potent he claimed them to be.

I always found that to be more than just a bit odd since that site had more skilled growers than any other site I have seen since and it was the most skilled that seemed to complain the most.

It was a real pity that the member had to stoop so low as to trick people into purchasing his sub-par genetics ... still, the pictures were cool.
 

subcool

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Thats one of the main reasons I have never learned much when it comes to editing pics.
many pros use so many techniques that I have read about like stacking and softening etc I always felt if you didnt get the shot ( or the genetics) you were after load up and try again.


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subcool

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Hes making a reference to the old days and his facts are very incorrect but I let it slide because I know the real story and really dont care about all the drama.
People will believe what they want and minds are hard to change.

he is insinuating I fake all my pics and my genetics are weak without actually saying it outright
 

skunkushybrid01

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I disagree with most of this :)
The Color Purple
By Subcool

Purple Cannabis is all the rage in the Nocal clubs and it is highly sought after by both consumers and producers, lets explore this phenomenon and learn some things about Cannabis and Color. Do we see any great demand for purple today? Not in normal things because they’re readily available but when it comes to Purple Pot it’s another story.
Cannabis floral clusters are basically green, but changes may take place later in the season, which alter the color to include various shades. The intense green of chlorophyll usually hides the color of accessory pigments, Chlorophyll starts to loose it’s vibrant green color late in the season and anthocyanin pigments also contained in the tissues are uncovered and the amazing colors are produced at this time. Purple, resulting from anthocyanin accumulation, is extremely common in Cannabis, this color modification is usually triggered by seasonal change, and also can be influenced indoor by a temperature drop of between 20-30 degrees.
Insert Pictures of Purple Cannabis occurring naturally
This does not mean, however, that Purple is controlled by environment alone and it can be passed on genetically. For purple color to develop upon maturation, a strain must have the genetically controlled metabolic potential to make anthocyanin pigments and be responsiveness to environmental change such as cold nighttime temps. This means a strain can have the genetic potential to change color but if conditions never exist you may never know it. I have grown Jacks Cleaner for a long time and when I moved west and it found some dramatically cooler temps I got a nice maroon/ purple coloring at maturity.
Insert Outdoor Purple Picture here or EQ.

There are other pigments that effect the color of mature cannabis for example Carotenoid is largely responsible for the yellow, orange, red, and brown colors in buds. I find this effect is much easier to accomplish in Organics and soil but in order to really call a strain Purple it needs to have more than colored outer leaves and the inner buds need to actually be Purple.



If ya cant find my forum on this site ya not smart enough to grow sorry..

Sub
Yeah thanks man... i already know that. I'm growing a true purple strain right now, no purple leaves at all, just the calyxes are purple. The chlorophylls are the best at photosynthesis, so once the leaves start to go purple and the chlorophylls die off the carotenoids take over and they don't harvest red light. so if this is happening at the end of the grow the best light to use would be MH. Of course the best thing in the first place is to keep the leaves green.

But that's my preference. I'm not a hater, i have much respect for a lot of your strains. especially JTR and Vortex was good back in the day, i first grew those 4 years ago and was one of the first to do so. I also grew them at this forum under a similar handle.

However i'm also opinionated when it comes to growing plants, i find it helps me learn when i share my own knowledge.
 

subcool

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Just start at the front of this forum and read it all there are layers and layers of info here in my organic forum.
 

mame

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Been there done that a decade ago most herm prone strain ever.
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Would you say dutch Passions Blueberry is anything like DJ shorts? I saw your thread about DJ shorts Blueberry and like a week later saw a grow that the guy had the blue pheno.. but said he cracked ~60 seeds before he found it and kept it as a mother.

I'm in the process of growing some DP Blueberry atm (just two sprouts, $25 a seed is a little steep) alongside some JTR and hope that DP's strain is stable enough to find the pheno I'm after.

If I dont find the pheno I'm looking for, I'll be going with another one of your strains as they seems so stable (out of 10 JTR seeds many of them looked like they could be clones of each other :hump:

btw check out this monster in the making! (JTR)
 

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subcool

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Its all DJ's Blueberry thats what people dont understand
DP version came from the same weak ass gene pool its just an f2 or worse a fem version.

Nice huge JTR

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mame

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Its all DJ's Blueberry thats what people dont understand
DP version came from the same weak ass gene pool its just an f2 or worse a fem version.

Nice huge JTR

Sub
Ah I see, hopefully one of these two ends up being a keeper but if it is not... I'm going to be looking for something else(from you this time, have great luck with your seeds!) with similar traits... fruity taste, short flowering period(because I'll be rolling them alongside JTR), color is def beautiful... Querkle? Jillybean?!

I grow for a small group of people(friends, family) and they all love fruity, heavy hitting strains, color is a plus and me being the grower something with a nice yeild is awesome.

Thanks for spending time on RIU btw, I'm sure you hear it a lot but we all very much appreciate you not only for your beautiful creations but for your vast knowledge as well.

Any recomendations? I look at your selection and really cannot decide...
 
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