hows the trim?

Knott Collective

Knott Collective

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Nice work on the buds. I see a little PK burn on the leaves but good color retention, fillout and trichome development. Are you trimming before chopping? Wow, that must be a lot of work. Respectfully on the trim - they need to be cleaned up a bit to make top shelf in today's market. Prices have been hammered down in the last few years and a hippy trim is the second thing purchase agents bitch about. First thing is the nose, aroma, smell, stank, etc.

Please consider dry trimming instead of trimming before or immediately after cutting the plants down. Chop it, remove big water leaves, hang & dry. Leave sugar leaves on. Really makes for a much better aroma in the final product. Easier trimming too. Just our humble experience.

Take what you need and leave the rest.

bongsmilie
 
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ag843

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Knott Collective said:
Nice work on the buds. I see a little PK burn on the leaves but good color retention, fillout and trichome development. Are you trimming before chopping? Wow, that must be a lot of work. Respectfully on the trim - they need to be cleaned up a bit to make top shelf in today's market. Prices have been hammered down in the last few years and a hippy trim is the second thing purchase agents bitch about. First thing is the nose, aroma, smell, stank, etc.

Please consider dry trimming instead of trimming before or immediately after cutting the plants down. Chop it, remove big water leaves, hang & dry. Leave sugar leaves on. Really makes for a much better aroma in the final product. Easier trimming too. Just our humble experience.

Take what you need and leave the rest.

bongsmilie
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from what ive read its always been to trim BEFORE hanging to make for a cleaner dry and l. i have 10-15 more to go so i can def alter my methods. it has taken a shit load of time thus far. are you leaving sugar leaves on even after final trim??
 
WeedFreak78

WeedFreak78

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That looks really good. I got OCD with my first couple of trim jobs, snipping every little sugar leaf that stuck out, until i realized many of them will receded into the bud as they dry. I like leaving material on for drying, in my situation it helps to slow the process, I'm in a very dry environment. I'll usually pick big leaves withing a day of cutting, give it a few days, pick off any of the smaller sun leaves after they've dried, then do a final trim. When i trimmed then dried I'd have bone dry buds in 4-5 days, then I'd be trying to reintroduce some moisture. I'm hopping to build a controlled cab for drying at some point.
 
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ag843

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WeedFreak78 said:
That looks really good. I got OCD with my first couple of trim jobs, snipping every little sugar leaf that stuck out, until i realized many of them will receded into the bud as they dry. I like leaving material on for drying, in my situation it helps to slow the process, I'm in a very dry environment. I'll usually pick big leaves withing a day of cutting, give it a few days, pick off any of the smaller sun leaves after they've dried, then do a final trim. When i trimmed then dried I'd have bone dry buds in 4-5 days, then I'd be trying to reintroduce some moisture. I'm hopping to build a controlled cab for drying at some point.
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fast drying was my issue b4 now i dry in a tent. Usually takes about 7-10 days to dry. I was def OCD with my intial trim but clearly im still in the learning/fig out what works. Appreciate the feedback
 
Knott Collective

Knott Collective

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ag843 said:
from what ive read its always been to trim BEFORE hanging to make for a cleaner dry and l. i have 10-15 more to go so i can def alter my methods. it has taken a shit load of time thus far. are you leaving sugar leaves on even after final trim??
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Yea, in the beginning we were of that mind; however, we've learned a lot in the last decade or so. On the surface it might seem that trimming wet is easier, but if you try dry trimming you might learn the same things we did. Better end result by far. And an overall easier process.

Before harvest we don't play any tricks on the plants, we just keep em as healthy as possible right up to the very end. All of our large plants are on small dollies that we can roll about. We roll one into our work room, move it into an open area and pull off all the big water leaves. We leave all other leaves on the plant. Easy to do because we can spin 'em around to access all areas quickly. We cut small branches from the plant so that a "v" is created and the length will fit in medium sized cardboard "drying boxes". We dry slow and steady for a minimum of 10-14 days if we can stretch it that long without getting too dry.

At the right time we pull the boxes and trim em up. Much easier to trim when the sugar leaves are dry, almost brittle. Many of them simply break off. There is less goop on the scissors and gloves. Trim is already dry and ready for extraction. No need to wait. And the nose is the key - far, far better than wet trimming. Those sugar leaves that wrapped around the buds as they slowly dried have encapsulated the microscopic processes to retain more of the terpenes, lipids and waxes in the buds. These aromatics, fats and ether oils are what make up the smell. Retaining as much of them as possible helps make the buds more aromatic, hence more stanky (to use a technical term).

Oh, and no, we don't leave the sugar leaves on after final trim. Here's the Skywalker bud from my avatar shot:
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narkush

narkush

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Knott Collective said:
Yea, in the beginning we were of that mind; however, we've learned a lot in the last decade or so. On the surface it might seem that trimming wet is easier, but if you try dry trimming you might learn the same things we did. Better end result by far. And an overall easier process.

Before harvest we don't play any tricks on the plants, we just keep em as healthy as possible right up to the very end. All of our large plants are on small dollies that we can roll about. We roll one into our work room, move it into an open area and pull off all the big water leaves. We leave all other leaves on the plant. Easy to do because we can spin 'em around to access all areas quickly. We cut small branches from the plant so that a "v" is created and the length will fit in medium sized cardboard "drying boxes". We dry slow and steady for a minimum of 10-14 days if we can stretch it that long without getting too dry.

At the right time we pull the boxes and trim em up. Much easier to trim when the sugar leaves are dry, almost brittle. Many of them simply break off. There is less goop on the scissors and gloves. Trim is already dry and ready for extraction. No need to wait. And the nose is the key - far, far better than wet trimming. Those sugar leaves that wrapped around the buds as they slowly dried have encapsulated the microscopic processes to retain more of the terpenes, lipids and waxes in the buds. These aromatics, fats and ether oils are what make up the smell. Retaining as much of them as possible helps make the buds more aromatic, hence more stanky (to use a technical term).

Oh, and no, we don't leave the sugar leaves on after final trim. Here's the Skywalker bud from my avatar shot:
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Man.....That IS a work of art.....!
Bravo !:clap:
 
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