Hydroguard vs Photosynthesis plus for Bacillus Amyloliquefaciens

Is my thinking correct? Hydroguard contains Bacillus Amyloliquefaciens @ 1.00 x 10 4cfu's ml. Photosynthesis plus contains Bacillus Amyloliquefaciens @ 1.00 x 10 7cfu's ml, does suggest PP contain just short of twice as much colony forming units (cfu's) of the bacterium.

Be great if someone could explain as I don't understand the colony forming unit/ml (cfu's/ml) calculation

@fartoblue

Explanation:

Equation reads as 1.00 x (10 to the 4th power) cfu's (per) ml

Same thing for the next value. 1.00 x (10 to the 7th power) cfu's (per) ml

So then, # 2 is far more then dbl the first.

Understand now?

Many thanks for the reply Dr Who, I still don't understand. Could you break it down an tell me what each number is specific to.

Dr. Who said:

@fartoblue

Explanation:

Equation reads as 1.00 x (10 to the 4th power) cfu's (per) ml

Same thing for the next value. 1.00 x (10 to the 7th power) cfu's (per) ml

So then, # 2 is far more then dbl the first.

Understand now?

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three orders of magnitude...sample one would contain 100,000 units.....
sample two would contain 100, 000,000 units in the same volume..

1 X 10 to the fourth power is 1x 100,000.....10 with 4 zeros....
1 x 10 to the seventh power is 100,000,000...10 with 7 zeros...

Ahh thanks the penny has dropped.
So that makes Photosynthesis plus 10 times stronger than Hydroguard with Bacillus Amyloliquefacien, plus you get loads of other bacteria thrown in.

fartoblue said:

Ahh thanks the penny has dropped.
So that makes Photosynthesis plus 10 times stronger than Hydroguard with Bacillus Amyloliquefacien, plus you get loads of other bacteria thrown in.

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The real kicker is that CFU's should be defined as "potential" colony forming units!


Not all of them will start forming a colony......Viability is a factor....

One maybe not as well sourced or the CFU's are of a lower viable %....

The answer is to try them and see what one work's best for you....

fartoblue said:

Ahh thanks the penny has dropped.
So that makes Photosynthesis plus 10 times stronger than Hydroguard with Bacillus Amyloliquefacien, plus you get loads of other bacteria thrown in.

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It's actually 1000. 10 raised to the 3rd power is 1000.

fartoblue said:

Ahh thanks the penny has dropped.
So that makes Photosynthesis plus 10 times stronger than Hydroguard with Bacillus Amyloliquefacien, plus you get loads of other bacteria thrown in.

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1,0.........NM, i see GB's post ^...

Thanks so much. As you can see mathematical calculations are not my strong point.

Makes Hydroguard look even more of a nonsense against Photosynthesis plus or some of the other similar products.

fartoblue said:

Thanks so much. As you can see mathematical calculations are not my strong point.

Makes Hydroguard look even more of a nonsense against Photosynthesis plus or some of the other similar products.

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like Dr. Who said, you have to look at the whole picture, it says X amount of cfu..not X amount of guaranteed viable active cfu...
i'm not familiar with the photo product, hydroguard has a good reputation, but i've used it once, and wasn't impressed with it...i'd try the other product and if it works, screw hydroguard

Thanks Roger as mentioned Microbe life Photosynthesis plus is the only product I have ever used where I can honestly say I could see a difference for the better within a few days.

Best bang for the buck...
https://southernag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Garden-Friendly-Fung-1.pdf

I was just going to chime in on the Southern Ag. Just mentioned it in another thread. It's 10^10 cfu.

but most of this shit we can not get in canada

Smokey57 said:

but most of this shit we can not get in canada

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see if you can find BASF Integral. or a dry version called Double Nickel (manufacturer unknown)

@fartoblue the double nickel was the dry version, finally remembered the name of it. not sure if it's in the UK

Jypsy Dog said:

Best bang for the buck...
https://southernag.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Garden-Friendly-Fung-1.pdf

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I'm in UK mate not available here.

rkymtnman said:

see if you can find BASF Integral. or a dry version called Double Nickel (manufacturer unknown)

@fartoblue the double nickel was the dry version, finally remembered the name of it. not sure if it's in the UK

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Thanks Rky
Double Nickel LC not available in Uk. I think Certis is the manufacturer.

I am now totally bamboozled now,what the heck is this calculation (1.3×1011cfu/kg) and how does it compare to Hydroguards 1.00 x 10 4cfu's m.

I presume a gram of water weight is around 1 ml so the 1.3×1011cfu/kg could read 1.3×1011cfu/1000ml

I've been using Great White in place of Hydroguard for a long time now...same bennies as hydroguard, plus myc's. Is there much of a difference between Great White and the Photosynthesis you mentioned above, Fartoblue?

I would assume that if it's measured in g or kg it would be a dry product. You would measure the dose with a scale rather than teaspoon or whatever you choose to use for liquids.