hypothetical: light penetration and cfl's

if I am able to use an unlimited number of cfls, in a fairly reflective, small space, and get them right onto the nodes and buds during flowering, then do rituals such as lollipopping and lst become unnecessary?

would it also make having to do basic canopy management obsolete?

really, what techniques would actually prove beneficial under this "unlimited light sources" scenario?
 

Pipe Dream

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well with an unlimited amount of cfls yes those would all be obsolete but in a small space you still have height concerns so lst would still be a good option and you wouldn't have tall plants anyways to worry about a lot of lower lighting.
 
good point, but what if the ultimate goal is to have maximum yield, wouldn't it make more sense to avoid stressin' the lil fella out? the space in question is five square feet with seven feet of height.
 

Pipe Dream

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well that's why it's calle low stress training because it doesn't stress the plant. It's just like a vine it just grows how it can LSTing isn't going to stop the plants from growing it just changes the shape they grow in. Personally I have used fishing lures on my small plants just to get som light to penetrate the foliage better and they stay lower. The plants actually become stronger from this because the trunk has to get thicker to support it's weight and it encourages branching. Maybe if yeild was your only concern just staking them would be a little better because the plant can concentrate on growing foliage rather than stem in theory but those plants will be much taller and unless you have ample light all the way down your yeild will be much smaller. If your really going for yeild the best results are from smaller clones packed into the growing area becasue that way the light's energy is used up more efficiently and you skip a lot of the veg time and height of course the drawback is you need two seperate grow areas and you are growing more plants whis is more risk.

that's how i see it anyways
 
ah perhaps a small sea of green (pond of green?) setup using maybe six plants at the most would be the true perfect style. in theory it sounds like it would produce better results than just focusing my energy on one big beauty. multiple rooms isn't a nonissue since there are enough types of bulbs suitable for both stages and a plan to harvest enough to tide a solitary man until he harvests again.
 

Pipe Dream

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With a small area a great way to go is scrog. Basically the sea of green SOG method is when you have mother plants who are left in veg constantly. The mother is cloned once every 2 weeks and every 2 weeks you put small clones inside your flowering area. They will grow short will be all female and be the same. Every 2 weeks you harvest some and move new ones in. A screen of green or scrog is basically where you train the plant to a screen like chicken wire and the plant will grow similar to how a room full of clones would grow but your only growing one plant. The Screen supports the weight and encourages them to grow straight up through the holes.
 

GidgetGrows

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I would still recommend using the LST method, simply because it helps make your canopy nice and even, easier to get the lights on the nodes.

attached a shot of my current grow, the LST(rhinowreck) is on the right, the nonLST(blueberry) in the middle.
 

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BTW, it isn't only nodes and buds that use light it's mainly the larger foliage. Get as much light hitting as much green as possible.
 
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