i cant narrow the problem down a lil help (PICS)

Johnnyblaze326

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well ive got a small problem comming in to flowering on my 3rd grow! i started 12/12 on 1-22-11
i have some curling tips pointing down and a couple curling up really pissing me off some newer growth doing some funky stuff too ...plz read info given and look at pics before giving false info plz i need to get this problem fixed its clearely not over fert maybe under fert or something else ...Im 11 days into flowering i flushed 4-5 days ago with tap water adjusted to 7.0
today on 2-1-11 i watered plants with 1 3/4 tsp of tiger bloom ph adjusted between 6.5-6.8
i cant wait to finish this soil grow ...last time with soil for a while i have all the equipment to run 4 4x4 flood trays and 4k lights cant wait ....
i have also noticed slightly redish stems on a couple plants normal or def


How long has this problem been going on? about 2 days before flowering
What STRAIN are you growing? Nl & Ai from nirvana
What was the establishing technique? (seed or clone?) seed
What is the age of your plants? seeds popped out of soil on 12-14-10
How long have they been in the soil mixture they are in now? 1 week before flowering
Were they in the same mixture when they were seedlings/smaller plant? If not, what mixture were they in before? seeds started in FFLW untill roots took hold then taken to 1 gallon pots with FFOF . then on 1-15-11 i transplanted to 3 gallon to finish out in 1 week for stress recov
How Tall are the plants?
What PHASE (seedling, vegetative or flower) are the plants in?flowering 8 days in 12/12
What Technique are you using? (SOG, SCROG etc) el naturale with a small pruning at the bottom for air circulation went up about 3 nodes upfrom bottom
What size pots are you using? (Include how many subjects to pot)1 plant per 3 gallon pot
What substrate/medium are you using? What brand of soil mixture are you using?(percentage of perlite, vermiculite...etc?) FFOF
What brand Nutrient's are you using? FF grow big big bloom and tiger bloom
How much of each nutrient are you using with how much water? *Knowing the brand is very helpful*i didnt use Grow big at all during veg only used big bloom at veg time 6 TSP gallon
How often are you feeding?water water feed
If flowering, when did you switch over to using Bloom nutrients?ive only foliar fed once 4 days ago with no ill effects didnt want to put anything into soil till i get this figured out
What order are you mixing your nutrients? (example: veg nutes 1st, bloom 2nd ect)
What is the TDS/EC/PPM of your nutrients used?sorry no meter yet on the top of my list to get next
What is the pH of the "RUN-OFF"? when i did a flush on 1-26 run off was 6.5 ph of water fed to plant was 7.0-7.1
How often are you testing pH/ppm/EC/TDS? i test ph every watering 6.5 everytime
What method of pH test was administered? Using Strips? pH pen? digi pen
How often are you watering?when pots are light
When was your last feeding and how often are you feeding?i foliar fed with tiger bloom on 1-24
What size bulb are you using?1000 watt digi hps aircooled hoods
How old is your bulbs?only been run for 2 flowering cycles
What is the distance to the canopy?18-20 inches from middle plant maybe 15 inches on edge of tray
What is your RH Factor? (Relative Humidity)did have problem with low humidity in the grow tent at 29% but in flowering room its between 40-60%
What is the canopy temperature?75-78f
What is the Day/Night Temp? (Include fluctuation range)never above 80 during the day never below 73 at night have a small heater in room to turn on at 75
What is the current Air Flow? (cfm etc.)
Tell us about your ventilation, intake exhaust and when its running and not running ?8 in vortex vented through 1 hood i have 2 hoods but that side of flowering is a month behing the ones in the pictures
Is the fan blowing directly at plants?nope just over the top of them it moves the leaves every pass though
Is the grow substrate constantly wet or moist?i dont think it is i dont have a moisture meter but when lifted they are light in weight
Is your water HARD or SOFT?not sure i think soft well water i dont havesalt build up or calcium build up . clay in the well water that is in the groud and it is visible some what if it sits in a container
What water are you using? Reverse Osmosis (RO)? Tap? Bottled? Well water? Distilled? Mineral Water?well
If using tap water, what is the ppm/EC/TDS of the water right out of the tap?(Only if you have a tds pen)
If using RO,Distilled,mineral water, what is the ppm/EC/TDS without any additives?(Only if you have a tds pen)
Are you using water from a water softener?
Has plant been recently pruned, cloned or pinched?cut 3 -4 nodes from bottom for aircirculation
Have any pest chemicals been used? If so what and when?never seen a bug besides a couple black flies but never more than i can count on 1 hand
Are plant's infected with pest's?i hope not if so im fucking blind


i do also have a line of nutes that i havent used yet which is
CaMg+
Chaching resin production probably wont use this run
Gravity bud hardener
Bushmaster for the ones that try to get outta control in stretch
snow storm ultra more trichome production ganna use this along with gravity

some pics are with lights out and some are light on
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Hey,,
Had a good read threw and nosiey at them pics. Firstly you have got your shit together aye....
With all that info, and looking at them pics its clear what evers wrong you have caught it very early. Id say since you havnt added anything to the soil there wanting food,,yellowing between viens with green veins would indicate lack of nitogen. But you know this so maybe not.
So they havent been feed anything yet? aprt from that foilar feed. Id say its that,I could be wrong though,
also i dont recommend foilar feeding,im abit oldschool ,,I dnt know if its still true but most liquid foliar ferts(inculding fish elumsion) contain nitrates. Leaves of cannibis convert nitrates to carcinogenic N-nitrosamines. this is why i dnt recommend or practice foilar feeding,.
,
,you get more rep as thats probly the best asked question with the most info...
good luck and hope somone can nail it on the head for you.
 
Shit mane thats a whole lot of shit to read...
But in my opinion (i basically skimmed threw it).... It really doesnt look so bad...
Yes they do appear to be yellowing a tad early .... one of my flowers is doin the same thing (6th grow)....
Keep in mind since you just transplanted not to long ago into ff soil??? correct??? Then there is still nutes in the medium ...
So u dont wanna pump nutes too fast into her... I know what your thinking.... it looks like the yellowing could be caused by a deficiency ...
But its better to be safe and flush every other water... and not to put allot of nutes through the first couple of weeks in new soil....

By this time hopefully by week two flower you can pump the stronger product into her.... and the deficiency will be gone...

One last thing i wouldnt use tap water..... at all... 6.8 is alil high to me ...
I feel safer in the 6.5 to 6.7 range with nutes that are a little lower....
And dont go to nirvana ... they have allot of old school stuff... id check out some newerr strains if i were u....
 
Hey,,
Had a good read threw and nosiey at them pics. Firstly you have got your shit together aye....
With all that info, and looking at them pics its clear what evers wrong you have caught it very early. Id say since you havnt added anything to the soil there wanting food,,yellowing between viens with green veins would indicate lack of nitogen. But you know this so maybe not.
So they havent been feed anything yet? aprt from that foilar feed. Id say its that,I could be wrong though,
also i dont recommend foilar feeding,im abit oldschool ,,I dnt know if its still true but most liquid foliar ferts(inculding fish elumsion) contain nitrates. Leaves of cannibis convert nitrates to carcinogenic N-nitrosamines. this is why i dnt recommend or practice foilar feeding,.
,
,you get more rep as thats probly the best asked question with the most info...
good luck and hope somone can nail it on the head for you.

well they look pretty healthy today wouldnt ya know i think i was under feeding them oh well ...evertthing is good today besides i found a fucking herm aurora indica well i still have for of them and 4 nl.. i have 15 more to flower all behind each other to get that perpetual thing going lol


Shit mane thats a whole lot of shit to read...
But in my opinion (i basically skimmed threw it).... It really doesnt look so bad...
Yes they do appear to be yellowing a tad early .... one of my flowers is doin the same thing (6th grow)....
Keep in mind since you just transplanted not to long ago into ff soil??? correct??? Then there is still nutes in the medium ...
So u dont wanna pump nutes too fast into her... I know what your thinking.... it looks like the yellowing could be caused by a deficiency ...
But its better to be safe and flush every other water... and not to put allot of nutes through the first couple of weeks in new soil....

By this time hopefully by week two flower you can pump the stronger product into her.... and the deficiency will be gone...

One last thing i wouldnt use tap water..... at all... 6.8 is alil high to me ...
I feel safer in the 6.5 to 6.7 range with nutes that are a little lower....
And dont go to nirvana ... they have allot of old school stuff... id check out some newerr strains if i were u....

i know the problem isnt that bad but who likes to see there bitches fuct up i know i dont lol....im going to get away from tap water starting tomorrow for now i just went and picked up 10 - 5 gallon jugs from wally world next is a tds meter .....
so in ur opinion which seeds were u thinking of ...i would love to grow some legandary shit starting soon ..its just to bad most of the legenday shit is clone only ...im not in a state that supplys them
 
try out reseva privada , dna genetics, maybe greehouse, and barneys got good stuff i hear....
Nirvana gear isnt horrible... just old school... i used nirvana on my first grow cause its cheap and i firgured i would mess the whole thing up... and i did...

Thats good your plants are looking up... early yellowing is typically a mag deficiency....
Even tho ... i hate to pump to many nutes in any plants...cause nute burn is a killer...

keeep us posted....
 
well i went out and bought water from the store in 5 gallon containers insted of the well water which i think is causing problems for me ...ph reads at 6.2 and ppm is at zero cause my tds meter doesnt ready anything is this normal? The water is by premo and this is what they put into it calcium chloride, magnesium sulfate, and sodium bicarbonate IS this water ok to use this is the website and additional info there. http://www.primowater.com/Water/Taste-Perfection.aspx I havent used it yet...Is this water ok to use


well i guess everything is looking on the up and up besides one plant shes doing the funcky chicken ...pics below not sure what it is ive grown 2 times with bag seed and never had a single problem no nute burn no ph problem nada then i buy seeds and keep them happy for the life of me..bud sites are starting to form everywhere ganna do a lil lower branch removal so all the energy moves up the plant ...i found a damn hermi amongst them and removed that day .....fucking fem seeds oh well last time i use fem seeds .....i wish i lived in a state that was legal so i could get clones ....grrrr......well i already started mothers anyways sooo i can start that perpetual 4 4x4 trays 2 week harvest =) heres some pics of the plant with some burn or deficency not sure it only happend to the leaves that are about 2 nodes from the top nothing else
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