I suggest... Wine?

angrybudcom

Member
Right, it should not be popular here, many disgrace alco by no actual reason (but gov's promotions)

I will make a try, here are the statements about grape-based psychedelics:

1) The promoted cognac is hell expensive, and dehydrates body giving stupid buzz, but... there is another sort of cognac, affordable, say within $100 per piece, and if taking in small portions it hits well enough! it does not dehydrate you, and yes, you hallucinate a little, just need listen to your mind. Speaking about those for chateau-wineries, they offer goooood variety of drinks, and only four such producers left on earth, and hard to find a bottle, not even every country imports such (I check every country I visit, not easy at all).

2) Wine - same, the cheap unreasonable buzz in general, but... there is Argentinian Malbec, which is rarely exported, and it gives a certain hit into your mind. Okay, you get into supermarket and find one, but it will be very different! Don't be fooled by trapiche or any other random reserva, they are not those. There are wine-based pubs in BsAs, like beer ones, but all wine, you can find a beautiful and rare varieties there. Okay, even in the continent most products are rubbish, utilising the name, yet you can spot the one in the neighbour countries as well.

3) Cyprus and Greece also offer the proper product. Better to search it in the mountain areas, and of course, from some grandma or grandpa, not in the shops for sure. However in Argentina they master it the best (for wine) and south of France are still best in cognac, yet not every brand at all.

Thoughts?
 

New Age United

Well-Known Member
If I just slam the booze to me for 3 or 4 days straight I'll start to hallucinate, were talking 4 flats and 4 peints in 4 days, and I'm schizophrenic, no single bottle of booze should make you hallucinate, and btw if you think that any thought is a hallucination you've never really tripped, thoughts are more often than not illusions, but they are not nor could ever be hallucinations
 

angrybudcom

Member
If I just slam the booze to me for 3 or 4 days straight I'll start to hallucinate, were talking 4 flats and 4 peints in 4 days, and I'm schizophrenic, no single bottle of booze should make you hallucinate, and btw if you think that any thought is a hallucination you've never really tripped, thoughts are more often than not illusions, but they are not nor could ever be hallucinations
Agree. Absolutely. Not talking about seeing Mona Liza instead of Sun, or a tree dancing I once saw in AMS under mushrooms... but some altering the perception you certainly meet, if good company, good wine, no trouble, totally relaxed. You can see things which are different comparing to when you're clean. Same to weed, it's not a totally visual hallucination, yet it is slightly in that direction
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Right, it should not be popular here, many disgrace alco by no actual reason (but gov's promotions)

I will make a try, here are the statements about grape-based psychedelics:

1) The promoted cognac is hell expensive, and dehydrates body giving stupid buzz, but... there is another sort of cognac, affordable, say within $100 per piece, and if taking in small portions it hits well enough! it does not dehydrate you, and yes, you hallucinate a little, just need listen to your mind. Speaking about those for chateau-wineries, they offer goooood variety of drinks, and only four such producers left on earth, and hard to find a bottle, not even every country imports such (I check every country I visit, not easy at all).

2) Wine - same, the cheap unreasonable buzz in general, but... there is Argentinian Malbec, which is rarely exported, and it gives a certain hit into your mind. Okay, you get into supermarket and find one, but it will be very different! Don't be fooled by trapiche or any other random reserva, they are not those. There are wine-based pubs in BsAs, like beer ones, but all wine, you can find a beautiful and rare varieties there. Okay, even in the continent most products are rubbish, utilising the name, yet you can spot the one in the neighbour countries as well.

3) Cyprus and Greece also offer the proper product. Better to search it in the mountain areas, and of course, from some grandma or grandpa, not in the shops for sure. However in Argentina they master it the best (for wine) and south of France are still best in cognac, yet not every brand at all.

Thoughts?
I have tried three times to read this. I still cannot report success.
 

SFnone

Well-Known Member
this is a pretty weird thread... alcohol being a hallucinatory, but specifically grapes... hmmm... maybe old-school absinth brewed in toxic copper vats with a large dose of thujone would do it, and maybe gin or good tequila a little, but I don't know about cognac being any more "trippy" than any other booze... good for taste, but not really the best spirit to get wasted off of... no disrespect to cognac, but for high dollar alcohol that is mainly for taste, I prefer scotch.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
this is a pretty weird thread... alcohol being a hallucinatory, but specifically grapes... hmmm... maybe old-school absinth brewed in toxic copper vats with a large dose of thujone would do it, and maybe gin or good tequila a little, but I don't know about cognac being any more "trippy" than any other booze... good for taste, but not really the best spirit to get wasted off of... no disrespect to cognac, but for high dollar alcohol that is mainly for taste, I prefer scotch.
In my instance, specifically unpeated Speyside style single malt
 

angrybudcom

Member
highly peated Islay single malt around these parts. Lagavulin or Laphroaig.
Oh I agree, it's good. From these I like more Speyside the most! Islay is too salty for me, by that - second place after Speyside, haha.

Highland is the worst (okay they are all hi-end, but some should be the worst anyway =))
 

angrybudcom

Member
this is a pretty weird thread... alcohol being a hallucinatory, but specifically grapes... hmmm... maybe old-school absinth brewed in toxic copper vats with a large dose of thujone would do it, and maybe gin or good tequila a little, but I don't know about cognac being any more "trippy" than any other booze... good for taste, but not really the best spirit to get wasted off of... no disrespect to cognac, but for high dollar alcohol that is mainly for taste, I prefer scotch.
I would not say the price really play the main role, which is the result of marketing rather than production quality...

The best cognac I ever tried was Chateau de Montifaut, relatively NOT expensive. Their Xo is cool, and it's much-much-much older age than the "minimal Xo age by law", they use 200 years old spirits in it, same for Vs and Vsop, they are cool as well. Their Napoleon is also very special one! Chateau Fonpinot - second place. But "most fancy" Louis XIII and King Richard, kinda most expensive ones in the world, indeed are rubbish, bad blend and a cheap unreasonable booze - agree 100%.

Try something with "Chateau" in its name, may change your opinion ;-)

And I surely didn't want to say that "only grapes", but French mastered it the best (I think). Scotch is cool, I love it, but dehydration is awful, I have a problem with blood from flying airplanes too much, I feel worse after scotch, only smaller portions I take, and I feel very fresh after cognac or wine. I would add Zivania to the list, but the problem is that the real one, which is 70% in strength, little bit unpredictable, little bit outlawed, and no link with reality in the end of the party =))

HA! I thought I was the only stoner loving to drink =) SO happy it is untrue! :hump:
 
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