ICE** (Lucas Formula Plus) ;)

These are 4/4 Ice seeds I planted! First picture is the 1st day of light (they all looked the same so i only used one pic)... Currently in the 11th day of Light

What do you think?

Nutrients: (5.8-6.0)
Lucas GH Formula
Floralicous Plus
Rare Earth
SubCulture
Diamond Nectar


Foliar (ph 6.0)
Dutch Masters Penetrator x Floralicous Plus

Diamond Nector x Chi

Distilled Water
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Great looking plants! For the newer to this hobby, can you detail the steps you went through before light day one? How did you germinate?

Regards,
Marq

SEEDS NEED DARKNESS, ROOTS DONT LIKE LIGHT... SO WORK QUICK AND CAREFULLY TO GET SEEDS BACK INTO DARKNESS (in this case I use a cabinet)

Seeds were soaked in Distilled Water until they sank...

While I waited for them to sink I prepared a germination solution 5.5Ph (1/2 what is recommended on the side of the GH Bottle) this time I included FloraGro...

Once they sank I took the seeds and put them into paper towels and poured the solution on the towels (just enough to make them damp)...

While I waited for those to crack, I prep grodan mini cubes... Again with 5.5 ph, but this time instead of the nutrients I used Europonic Rockwool Conditioner... I soaked for 30 sec or so then set them on saucers (plates) overnight

I then placed the cracked (sperm like) seeds with root (tail) side down in the hole of the mini Grodan mini cubes...

REMEMBER THESE SEEDS ARE LIKE BABIES, DONT DROP THEM OR BEND THEM, or APPLY TO MUCH PRESSURE!

I then put them into solo cups and waited!
Make sure cubes are moist at all times (not to much)

sealfever42 said:

These are 4/4 Ice seeds I planted! First picture is the 1st day of light (they all looked the same so i only used one pic)... Currently in the 11th day of Light

What do you think?

Nutrients: (5.8-6.0)
Lucas GH Formula
Floralicous Plus
Rare Earth
SubCulture
Diamond Nectar


Foliar (ph 7.0)
Dutch Masters Penetrator x Floralicous Plus

Diamond Nector x Chi

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Just looking at your nute soup, you could probably cut out the Rare Earth, and the Subculture, and the Diamond Nectar. And I've never heard of foliar feeding with fulvic acid. The Diamond Nectar is fulvic, and Subculture is organisms, and the Rare Earth is silicates. I believe that all are already in the Floralicious Plus. Why not call GH's tech support and ask them if you need all of them? Then let us know.

sealfever42 said:

What do you think?

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I THINK THEY LOOK REALLY BIG. and healthy.

I did actually talk to the tech at GH... he told me that all would do great together... he also said that floralicous plus provides food for the subculture... also said to use RE and DN from 2 weeks old to half way through flowering...

I have read in numerous places that you can add DN to your foliar mix

Some of the plants are showing early stages of Mg deficiency... I went to the local hydro store and bought some CAL Mag(BotianCare)

Is this the correct thing to do?

It could help, but with all of your other stuff, I'd add calmag at 2-3 ml/gal.

The Lucas Formula Sucks !!!! Its dirty, you gotta flush it alot! First came the Magnesium deficiencies, then (N) Nitro Toxicity which lead to (K) Potassium deficiencies and Sulfur...

So I broke out the bottles and did some math... (perGallon)

Lucas (CRAP!)
5ml FloraMicro
10mlFloraBloom

Lucas Plus! (Dog Shit unless you can change the res every three days[debris])
5ml FloraMicro
10ml FloraBloom
1ml Cal Mag
1ml Diamond Necture
1ml Floralicous Plus
SubCuture (Not Whole Bag... ONLY First RES!!!)
Rare Earth

My Formula... As you can see it works! (30gal)
5ml FloraGro
3ml FloraMicro
7ml FloraBloom
2ml Cal Mag
1.5ml Diamond Necture
1ml Floralicous Plus

in 3 Day i add 5 more Gallons with... (perGallon also!!!)
5ml FloraGro
2.5ml FloraMicro
1ml Cal Mag
1ml Diamond Necture
0.5ml Floracious Plus
.75ml Superthrive (total [not per galllon])

Check it out!
I put some before pics with them on the table!
Then I moved them to the floor...
Also I took a pic of my hand and meassuring tape for reference!

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Yeah, I was never able to do well without the FloraGro during flowering.

And Your formula looks good, but I thought I'd mention a couple of things. That seems like too much Superthrive, and not enough Diamond Nectar. I use Superthrive at 1-2 drops/gallon, and fulvic acid, (not GH's) at 20 ml/gal. What does the Diamond Nectar label say? Also, you should increase the Micro some during flowering, and that will help with Cal, Mag, and Sulfur.

HTH

potroast said:

Yeah, I was never able to do well without the FloraGro during flowering.

And Your formula looks good, but I thought I'd mention a couple of things. That seems like too much Superthrive, and not enough Diamond Nectar. I use Superthrive at 1-2 drops/gallon, and fulvic acid, (not GH's) at 20 ml/gal. What does the Diamond Nectar label say? Also, you should increase the Micro some during flowering, and that will help with Cal, Mag, and Sulfur.

HTH

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actally if you look at the fact that there is 30 gallons of water to .75ml Superthrive (on the bottle it says one minim[metric unit equal to 0.061611519921875ml{30gal x 0.061611519921875 = 1.84834559765625ml}] so I am using a half dose!

And Diamond Necture also says 1-2ml per gallon!!!

When flowering you will add a little more Micro... I would choose to raise with Cal Mag to keep Nitro from becoming toxic! In fact the whole equation is going to change....(in stages[Nute levels will change serveral times])

what fulvic acid do you use... yours seems to be deluted

thanks for the info... and your plants are looking very nice mate!

Nice Pictures, but I have a few questions:

(1) What happened to your BMW?

(2) What's up with all the bananna hammock pictures?

(3) How do you like living in Laguna Beach?

(4) Do you think it's smart to put pictures of your girlfriend, dog, car, yard, etc, right next to pictures of our plants?

Just a thought.

-Marq

Lots of growers use the Lucas formula ALONE nothing else and produce amazing buds. I set my girlfriend up in Hempy buckets using Lucas for her first grow, and I have to say she had a nice little harvest. Sooooo don't blame the formula it must had been a user error.

mmmm i love ice.. all i grew for awhile... in fact my avatar is a 15gram top bud check my gallary for some more pics.. all them but the stolen crop are ice..

o and just to clarify what nutes i use...
i use ONLY Fox Farm Products..
Heres what i use..


I just follow the chart...

sealfever42 said:

The Lucas Formula Sucks !!!! Its dirty, you gotta flush it alot! First came the Magnesium deficiencies, then (N) Nitro Toxicity which lead to (K) Potassium deficiencies and Sulfur...

So I broke out the bottles and did some math... (perGallon)

Lucas (CRAP!)
5ml FloraMicro
10mlFloraBloom

Lucas Plus! (Dog Shit unless you can change the res every three days[debris])
5ml FloraMicro
10ml FloraBloom
1ml Cal Mag
1ml Diamond Necture
1ml Floralicous Plus
SubCuture (Not Whole Bag... ONLY First RES!!!)
Rare Earth

My Formula... As you can see it works! (30gal)
5ml FloraGro
3ml FloraMicro
7ml FloraBloom
2ml Cal Mag
1.5ml Diamond Necture
1ml Floralicous Plus

in 3 Day i add 5 more Gallons with... (perGallon also!!!)
5ml FloraGro
2.5ml FloraMicro
1ml Cal Mag
1ml Diamond Necture
0.5ml Floracious Plus
.75ml Superthrive (total [not per galllon])

Check it out!
I put some before pics with them on the table!
Then I moved them to the floor...
Also I took a pic of my hand and meassuring tape for reference!

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d78/sealfever42/DSC02426.jpg
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Dont say Lucas formula sucks, u are not using Lucas formula, u are using lucas formula with a bunch of unneccessary additives that is causing ur solution to lock out. Talk about a Ca overdose! How many more things are u gonna add that have Ca. That is y u are haveing Mg lockout.
The formula is fantastic if u use it right, which u r not! I don't ever have to change my res.
P.S. Whoever told u that is Lucas Formula plus didn't do u any favors. Lucas formula does not have a plus, it doesn't need it. Quit trying to reinvent the wheel.

PS, 0-5-10 is Lucas formula for veg and bloom under Flouros, 0-8-16 is for veg and bloom under HID's.
Looks like u are being taken for that Hydro shop ride, we have all been on one, I have a whole closet full of shit I don't need, all pushed on me from my Hydro shop grow pro. Lol, guys who work at Hydro shops are just trying to push products, most of them are college kids or low life 30 year olds making minimum wage. I would say less than 1% of hydro shop workers have actually grown plants. Most of their knowledge comes from reading labels when they are bored because no one has been in the store for a week besides some guy who is scrambling around buying thirty different products from 20 different companies.

Bling, blam!!!! there it is.

Mr. Lucas oughta come bitch slap ya for talkin shit about his hard work.

You are trying to reinvent the wheel that Lucas already has. It's shitty to talk crap about anyone, but especially worse when the crap talker is the one at fault.

I have never tried Lucas Formula but am considering it. Glad I'm not a newbie who was deterred by your negative post about the Lucas Formula.

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Could u please tell me what the tds@ 7.0 conversion means..?? I use the lucas formula w/gh micro and the bloom.and does that flowering formula 0-8-16 come out to be about a tspn and a half of micro per gallon of water and the bloom is about a tblspn per gallon of water right??? I am using a 18 gallon resevoir which toppe off to bottom of netpots is right at 12 gal. So am i to add a tspn and a half per gal. And approx. A tblspn of bloom per gal.??? It seems to bring the ppm up to about 1500 ppm and this seems to high, what do u think or anyone about this?? Thanx