I'm a noob with a bunch of expensive stuff!!!!

DreBarret

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My original room plans had to be cancelled and now I'm stuck with a 4x4 tent, a digital 1000 watt mh/hps air 6in. cooled hood, a Sentinel environmental controller, 3 188 CFM fans, and CO2 tank with regulator, and a carbon filter. Now my dilemma is that my original room had a window that attached to a add on to the house, which is where I planned to exhaust all heat from the tent so that it would not mingle with ambient air temperature. I can't use the room anymore and now I have to move the tent into a basement decent for growing (temperature and humidity wise). My question is will I need to add an ac to the basement to keep things cool enough for a good first grow? Will only 1 of my 188 CFM fans keep the light and hood cool enough for the tent if I set up the other 2 fans for the intake and exhaust? Also, if not can I add the CO2 to offset the stress of the heat from the light? I'm a super noob, I have only grown 1 plant in my life and it turned out to be a male!!!!


P.S. How much do you think I'll yield???

LMAO, I couldn't help but ask a rookie question.

P.S.S. Disregard my yield question, my main concern is getting my environment A1 before I put ANYTHING under the light. I spent at least 5 months reading and studying. I know the deal. I just need experienced grower feedback on my setup. PLEASE HELP!!!
*bubblehashdoesmakeyouramble*
 

ghb

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depending on ambient temps you will only need one fan it will cool your light and your tent in one. i know i could use one fan to do both jobs where i am.

problem with co2 is that you will use so much of it to keep the levels at 1500ppm when exhausting your room, ideally it should be a sealed room with no exhaust and an ac unit.

first time growing with a 1k in a tent should get you around 600 grams of bud, if you get 1kg you have done really well but in a tent it's a big ask.

look into a small dehumidifer too, a wise investment.
 

jacob213

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i was under the impression that if u have an air cooled hood the exhaust from it does not hit the grow room if u have the ducting...my friend is running his 1000w and i cant smell anything out of the exhaust...diffrent story once u walk in the room though
 

DreBarret

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Thanks Ghb, basically you are telling me that my CFM levels are ok for what I have, I got 3 fans 1 for the hood itself, 1 for intake and 1 for exaust, I only got the CO2 setup incase I ran into a heat issue because I read that in order for the CO2 to be effective the temps and humidty needed to run a little higher. Jacob, that was my plan to keep the hood exhaust system totally seperate from the tent itself. Smell isn't much of a concern because I do have a cabon filter.
 

BigBudzzzz

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He He your blessed and cursed all at the same time!! I'll get back witcha when i got time to type the shit out.
 

Dennis Rodman

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a 188 CFM isnt enough to properly cool a 1000w light (assuming your intake air isnt freezing).

This will lead to higher temps.

Luckily, the added CO2 can take advantage of that.
Get it set up and post your temps.
 

DreBarret

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So it would just be in my best interest to just buy an inline vortex fan at 400 CFM for my light? Trying to put an AC unit big enough to keep the basement cool and exausting it outside as well is going to be a headache and a half in addition to the heat problem I'm trying NOT to run into. I think the basement is big enough so that it shouldn't get too warm down there, I'm guessing that with the coming Michigan winter months the temps should be perfect inside the tent with the lights on if I'm using 50 or 60 degree air to cool the hood and the tent. Well another hundred bucks I gotta shell out but its ok, thanks to you fine folks here at RIU I was able to learn just about everything I needed to know the other things I got from Jorge Cervantes video and Seemorebuds. I can't wait to test and start my journal. Thanks fam.
 

Onlyoneman

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If I were you, I would try using 2 fans in one manafold for exhaust, with a large passive intake.
That little system should be closed. Intake from outside, exhaust to outside, light in between. the air never enters the grow room. it just cools the light.

Then you still have one more fan that you can hook up to your controller for exhaust with a passive intake to kick on if temps climb too high. Then if your fan never shuts off you have something to worry about, but that wont happen.
This setup would allow you to run CO2 and only bring in fresh air when venting.
I believe that is the best way to set up what you have. It would work well, and no need to spend more money.
 

ROBSTERB

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im running a 450 cfm fan now to cool a 600+400 and a 6x4 room through carbon filter, the temps are perfect, never going above 80 degrees, i dont think that 180 cfm fan is enough to cool the light, but b4 you run out and spend more money it wont hurt you to try, if its on a closed system and you use the other fan to cool the room it might be enough.

as above said if you have a Y splitter coming off your light and use 2 of those fans for the light and the other one attached to the filter cooling the room, with passive intakes then i think you will be good to go.
 

wally nutter

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should be gooood, mostly just read the first post, i wanna be subbeddd, um what else, good luck, happy growings!!

i would estimate yields of at least a pound!!!
 

DreBarret

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The system WILL be closed. I have the sealed hood and was estimating when I bought it that there was NO possible way that 188 cubic feet is fitting inside of my hood. The other two fans will be for intake and exhaust. Ill spend the money for the bigger fan its no big deal, I'd rather shell out now than pull my hair out later when I hit 90 in the tent.
 

ROBSTERB

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The system WILL be closed. I have the sealed hood and was estimating when I bought it that there was NO possible way that 188 cubic feet is fitting inside of my hood. The other two fans will be for intake and exhaust. Ill spend the money for the bigger fan its no big deal, I'd rather shell out now than pull my hair out later when I hit 90 in the tent.
thats probs the best option, 6 inch fan for the light with the option of a speed controller to turn it down to reduce the noise, then have 1 of your 180 cfm connected to your carbon filter.
 

DreBarret

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Ok, thanks bud, I'm gonna set it up to see how high it goes, I wanna get all my environment lined up first so that I can hopefully keep noob mistakes at a minimum, or at least isolate them enough so that its only nute or Ph issues I'll have to deal with. Like I said I've done my reading so I got a basic understanding of what I got to work with, I just needed a lil input on my equipment. In the end Ill still probably end up buying a vortex fan and a smaller light for a veg tent so I can start up a perpetual so all is not lost because a 400 watt aircooled hood should be fine with one of my 188 can fans then and use a vortex for my 1000 watt. Soon as I get it fired up Ill be starting my first journal so I can find out what I can turn all these bagseeds into.
 

QuarterbackMo

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I am a hvac technician... trust me when I tell you that especially in a little 4 x 4 tent your going to need at least 4000btu of cooling and that is with your air cooled hoods.
 

DreBarret

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I am a hvac technician... trust me when I tell you that especially in a little 4 x 4 tent your going to need at least 4000btu of cooling and that is with your air cooled hoods.
Even in during Michigan winter months in a partially insulated basement???
 

QuarterbackMo

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Even in during Michigan winter months in a partially insulated basement???
I live in Detroit and yes trust me lol an insulated basement will make it even worse unless your running the house ac during the winter. Dont underestimate that big bitch she gets hot.
 

lou1960

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what ur doing is far good enough just keep it dry and 70-80 degrees never too much water or nute's that can cause all kinds of shit 400 cfm be sure to get a separate fan speed control I keep it about 3/4 ur good ..Lou
 

dbkick

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I live in Detroit and yes trust me lol an insulated basement will make it even worse unless your running the house ac during the winter. Dont underestimate that big bitch she gets hot.
word, its gets down to 40 f or so here and theres no sign of moving the portable(12k btu) out of the 5by7 room yet, soon I'll be able to just draw in frigid air but for the time being I'm still running this fucking AC, makes you start to enjoy cold winter months.
 
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